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[-] pyre@lemmy.world 3 points 17 hours ago

what the fuck, 30 thousand people? you don't tell a klan member to please get behind a minority candidate. you tell them to resign in shame and get the fuck out.

she fucking wore a white robe with a pointy hoodie and spewed the most vile shit you've heard since dubya left the office and you sign a petition for her to grace Mamdani with her disgusting xenophobic racist ass endorsement?

what's next, should he parade liz cheney around in his general election campaign?

[-] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 7 points 22 hours ago

I am just so sick of Gilibrand. I still cannot forgive her for what she did to Al Franken. And now this?

[-] ameancow@lemmy.world 8 points 21 hours ago* (last edited 21 hours ago)

The establishment dems are not an opposition party, their "opposition" to the right is entirely stage and theater. They don't want socialism in any capacity, they are paid by the exact same people as those who pay off the Republicans and they despise people like Mamdani and will do everything they can to sabotage anyone trying to make actual progress in politics.

We would do far better with more broad, grassroots, country-wide efforts to primary every sitting Dem senator and many in congress. In fact, that may be our only hope at this point of saving the country.

If progressive are going to gain a foothold in American politics, it'll be despite and not because of the DNC. For as shitty as it is, Trump put everyone in place by winning again and again. He selectively sought retribution, but mostly took them and put them in line. Now they can't be happier to go to bat for him.

The only difference will be the GenX Democratic elite will say they always believed in these ideas and are glad to have helped in the fight. They wouldn't have, but they need to save face.

Stop getting mad that the established democratic leadership lies and cheats. Call it out and get back on message. I think the messaging is stronger than their relexive grasps to hold on to power despite having no vision of the future.

[-] chilicheeselies@lemmy.world 92 points 2 days ago

We shouldnt have to sign a fucking petition for members of the same party to support the fucking candidate

[-] humanspiral@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 day ago

or to accept a petition delivery from what would be a voting organization with no other option but to support their future DNC candidates, or an organization that could volunteer to help turnout for such candidates.

[-] MotoAsh@lemmy.world 52 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

lol normies gonna' learn how conservative Democrats actually are ... again... for the tenth time...

... oh god, they're going to learn nothing.

It's not like they had 2 Bernie primaries to learn...

[-] TankovayaDiviziya@lemmy.world 14 points 1 day ago

BuT wHeRe's duH pRoOf BeRnIe wAs sAbOtAgEd bY DnC iN pRiMaRiEs? He Is ToO eXtReMe fOr mOdErAtE vOtErS!!

[-] immutable@lemmy.zip 13 points 1 day ago

Bernie lost the primaries.

Sure the corporate media spent every day talking about what a dangerous unelectable person he was.

Sure the same corporate media was happy to report about how because of super delegates he had basically no shot at winning and a smart voter wouldn’t throw their vote away on such a dangerous lunatic.

Sure Chris Matthews literally said that he was worried people like him would be executed by chairmen sanders

And yea the DNC marshaled all their money and influence against him.

And then the corporate media did just start calling whoever he was running against the presumptive nominee.

But that’s what makes these dangerous leftists so unelectable, billionaires and millionaires paid by billionaires keep calling them unelectable.

Won’t someone please, for once, think about the poor billionaires and what’s best for them and their media companies?

[-] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago

You forgot about chuck todd calling Sanders supporters "brownshirts."

[-] immutable@lemmy.zip 4 points 1 day ago

Their scare tactics are endless.

Here’s a really interesting video that Forbes just put out about Mamdani

https://youtube.com/shorts/AORpISxUCig

I think given the tone the VO is striking this is supposed to be damning or something. The comments though are great.

I think that’s the only encouraging thing in all this. Every so often the media can’t control the narrative.

They failed with Luigi so hard they just memory holed the entire thing. Every thing they tried failed, he’s a terrible criminal that gunned down a family man, people reacted with their personal stories about how UHC had destroyed their families. They give him a 50 person armed escort, the internet turns it into rap album memes.

Luigi went from having 24/7 coverage to not a peep when the media realized that people weren’t going to buy their spin.

At the end of the day all the wealthy can really do is suggest their version of the world over and over. All the people have to do is reject it.

[-] dick_fineman@discuss.online 10 points 1 day ago

Debbie Wasserman-Schultz sandbagged Bernie and there is absolutely no denying it. And you're right, she did it because the DNC, just like the GOP, is more than happy to suck the dick of the rich man. But neither the DNC nor the GOP actually matter...it's what the voters believe. And, I'm not sure if you noticed or not, but all those kids who grew up post-9/11 are largely pretty fucking overt with their opposition to the rich man. Times they are a changing. The old parties can get on board, or they can be burned down with everything else.

[-] immutable@lemmy.zip 9 points 1 day ago

As a Bernie supporter for every campaign he ran, I saw him get fucked over. I still remember when all the centrists rallied behind Biden so he could win a bunch of primaries in states he would end up losing in the general election and that was it, the story was now that Biden had unstoppable momentum.

I remember saying at the time that a Biden presidency would just be hitting snooze on fascism and the very serious Dems telling me I was just dining on sour grapes.

I’ll finish the rest of this post after I show my papers to ICE, trumps personal paramilitary which is now one of the best well funded organizations in the world.

[-] SereneSadie@lemmy.myserv.one 2 points 1 day ago

Conservative is still better than regressive.

[-] MotoAsh@lemmy.world 1 points 13 hours ago

Describe the difference between conservatism and regressivism. I'll wait.

[-] WatDabney@sopuli.xyz 82 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Unfortunately, the establishment Dems have the desires of the voters in one hand and they're weighing that against hundreds of millions of dollars in soft money in the other, and so far the money has an uninterrupted win streak.

And Gilibrand has already clearly signaled which side she favors.

[-] miss_demeanour@lemmy.dbzer0.com 63 points 2 days ago

Never forget Hillary v. Bernie.

[-] WatDabney@sopuli.xyz 41 points 2 days ago

That was when it kicked off in earnest.

I still think that if there's one single person who deserves more of the blame than anyone else for Trump becoming president in the first place, it's Debbie Wasserman Schultz.

[-] Subdivide6857@midwest.social 14 points 2 days ago

Never forget.

[-] disguy_ovahea@lemmy.world 49 points 2 days ago

He’s already gotten endorsements from some of the most influential progressives. Fuck the centrists. NY wants change that benefits the working class.

https://www.zohranfornyc.com/endorsements

[-] infinitesunrise@slrpnk.net 17 points 2 days ago

It's less that she's a centrist, more that she's an AIPAC beneficiary. She's sponsored by Israel, just like Schumer.

[-] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 15 points 2 days ago

It’s less that she’s a centrist, more that she’s an AIPAC beneficiary.

That particular Venn diagram has a lot of overlap.

[-] disguy_ovahea@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago

That is not what matters most in a NYC mayor.

[-] Gates9@sh.itjust.works 35 points 2 days ago

The Democratic Party WILL rig the general election. Hell, they’ll probably work with Republicans to get their candidate in over Mamdani.

Who owns the machines? Is the software audited? Are there tabulation servers involved?

[-] Tinidril@midwest.social 9 points 2 days ago

Wouldn't it have been easier to rig the primary?

[-] Gates9@sh.itjust.works 6 points 2 days ago
[-] Tinidril@midwest.social 5 points 2 days ago

Why not really? Nobody would have blinked at the results if he lost the primary. If he loses the general, especially to someone he beat in the primary, there will be a lot more attention. This is especially true with a candidate who's popularity seems to leap forward every time a poll is done.

[-] Septimaeus@infosec.pub 4 points 2 days ago

And the hand-count auditing of machine results for mayoral primaries is usually overseen by just a handful of people. It’s way more achievable. Tampering with those machines is easy by comparison.

IMO if the conspiracy hinges on “hacking” voting technology, it almost certainly overestimates not only their internal complexity but their role in determining election results.

[-] theacharnian@lemmy.ca 32 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

I for one think that Islamophobia is as serious an offense as sexual misconduct and that Gillibrand should be cancelled and resign, just like Al Franken.

[-] OneSpectra@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago
[-] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 8 points 2 days ago

She's just saying the only part out loud because she doesn't have to worry about re-election until 2030.

She needs a primary challenger in 2030. Maybe Mamdani himself.

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