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[-] victorz@lemmy.world 2 points 6 days ago

How does that math work? 90k hours with coworkers in a lifetime. And she's making the argument that we wouldn't want to be in zoom meetings for 90k hours, would we?

Who sits in meetings every single minute of their career? Surely there's actual work being done for the most of us.

[-] thericofactor@sh.itjust.works 172 points 4 weeks ago

Remember how clean the air was when most people were working from home?

But shareholder value is more important.

Good luck to this woman finding good employees. Good employees have a choice.

[-] Gowron_Howard@lemmy.world 116 points 4 weeks ago

“Why don’t people want to hang out with me?”

[-] LodeMike@lemmy.today 84 points 4 weeks ago

"My only friends are people on my payroll."

[-] 0_o7@lemmy.dbzer0.com 14 points 4 weeks ago

Unfortunately, there is no shortage of sadistic people like this who bond together just fine.

[-] judgyweevil@feddit.it 92 points 4 weeks ago

Does she think sleepless nights are going to improve mental health?

[-] Passerby6497@lemmy.world 67 points 4 weeks ago

"Hard truth I learned as a CEO: Sometimes you have to lie to get what you want, regardless of reality and facts"

Anyone who thinks more work gets done in the office is an idiot, or lying.

[-] HobbitFoot@thelemmy.club 17 points 4 weeks ago

Eh, it depends. I find that there is a benefit in highly collaborative projects or in an environment where training is a component.

For instance, a lot of data showed that junior staff productivity tanked as they didn't have the mentoring opportunities that they would have had in a full remote environment.

[-] funkless_eck@sh.itjust.works 18 points 4 weeks ago

right now I am hiding in a call booth in my office on our one in person day a week because the rest of the office is singing along to achy breaky heart while two junior employees throw lifesaver mints at each other.

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[-] ferrule@sh.itjust.works 13 points 4 weeks ago

I am the team lead and architect for my group. We have green engineers and interns. The other day my team was publically acknowledged as being one of the most productive and well oiled teams because of the detail I put in. On a weekly basis I am doing mentoring activities and 1 on 1s with everyone. And I still find time to be writing specs, design documents, code, and hour of meetings.

It requires very little effort. What I have found is that the vast number of leads and managers just aren't good at teaching or helping others. It's not a face to face issue. It's soft skills, logistics, and actually wanting a good team issue. All I am doing is the opposite of what all my bad managers did.

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[-] MNByChoice@midwest.social 10 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago)

Do many people get mentored in the office? I have worked for decades and have never been mentored.

Edit: I assume random, one off comments don't count as mentoring. "Don't put your feed up on the desk" isn't mentoring right?

[-] HobbitFoot@thelemmy.club 9 points 4 weeks ago

In my industry, it is very common. It is generally accepted that a large part of senior staff's time is reviewing the work of junior staff to make the work better. A lot of that requires teaching junior staff how to perform the work correctly.

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[-] PrettyFlyForAFatGuy@feddit.uk 59 points 4 weeks ago

I could spend 3 hours a day on a train and do teams meetings in the office, or i could not do 3 hours a day on trains and do teams meetings at home.

I was paying £550 a month in train tickets before covid freed me

[-] jpeps@lemmy.world 18 points 4 weeks ago

It amazes me that leaders don't get this. My office is filled with separate one-sided calls and it's unbearable. Furthermore I've not been in a meeting without Silicon Valley listening in in at least 5 years.

[-] ErmahgherdDavid@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 4 weeks ago

They do get it but they don't care. They want you to be uncomfortable and miserable because it keeps up the value of their commercial real estate portfolio .

[-] sturger@sh.itjust.works 8 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago)

Also tax breaks. Many large corpos negotiated city tax breaks for bringing a certain number of employees into downtowns. If those numbers don't meet minimums, the tax breaks go away.
Any we all know how much time, effort and expense a business person will go through to avoid paying $1 in taxes.

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[-] Macaroni_ninja@lemmy.world 53 points 4 weeks ago

Time to go back to the office and have still all meeting online with extra background noise. Looking for a quiet corner to be able to hear others properly is great for my mental health.

Also the office life improves my soft skills, like:

  • walking with my laptop open im my hand with a headset on to find an empty meeting room
  • sharing desks with annoying co-workers from other departments
  • enjoying other peoples conversations about their lunch plans from the other side of the open plan office
  • fighting for the thermostat setting and opening/closing the windows
  • embracing the daily multi-hour commute in rush hours

It really builds character.

[-] smeenz@lemmy.nz 10 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago)

Your office windows can be opened ? Luxury!

After writing that I feel I may need to clarify that I mean actual physical windows in an office building, not some self opening Microsoft product.

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[-] potjandorie@feddit.nl 43 points 4 weeks ago

This person probably goes to the office and sits in her own private room by herself, because she can't focus with the loud plebs on the big open office floor

[-] b_n@sh.itjust.works 19 points 4 weeks ago

This person arrives at 10, has a 1.5hour lunch, talks loudly around other people, leaves at 2 because needs to pick up the dog from the dog sitter, complains people are never in the office, only shows up 2 days a week if you're unlucky, 0 days if you're lucky.

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[-] karashta@sopuli.xyz 42 points 4 weeks ago

"Hard truth" she just made up to fit her own narrative without recourse to facts.

[-] alexc@lemmy.world 41 points 4 weeks ago

I suspect this is mainly because almost all of the CEOs I’ve met are workaholics, and being “at work” is the only way they can self-validate.

And remember, most of them are dark-personality traits, which explains why they cannot understand why you don’t want to go in

[-] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 41 points 4 weeks ago

Or go to a bar and say hi to people who are hanging around. Compliment someone's jacket. Tell someone that their whole aesthetic is cool as fuck. Comment on the weather. Become a part of your local environment and interact with your fellow humans. Join a hiking or hobby group.

Work is actually one of the worst places to get your social enrichment. You're significantly more likely to change jobs than cities and your innie is less likely to feel like your true self. Furthermore there's a baseline mental taxation of being at work that doesn't come with being in a social environment. And nobody's going to come up to you at a social event and tell you to get back to work.

[-] Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 9 points 4 weeks ago

Or go to a bar and say hi to people who are hanging around. Compliment someone’s jacket. Tell someone that their whole aesthetic is cool as fuck. Comment on the weather. Become a part of your local environment and interact with your fellow humans. Join a hiking or hobby group.

Nah, I'm good thanks

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[-] melsaskca@lemmy.ca 36 points 4 weeks ago

Ah yes. The lament of the middle managers with nothing to do. They feel threatened because it turns out they weren't needed after all.

[-] smeenz@lemmy.nz 11 points 4 weeks ago

I work from home, and my manager works from home also. He's not even in the same country as me.

Not all middle management has a thing for insisting people work from the office.

[-] Almacca@aussie.zone 30 points 4 weeks ago

Yeah, when I'm looking for sound mental health advice, I ask a CEO. Doesn't everyone?

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[-] BotsRuinedEverything@lemmy.world 29 points 4 weeks ago

Yes yes.. RTO is all about restoring the productivity and mental health of the worker. Ignore the declining property value of commercial buildings. Tell me again who stands to gain the most by increasing commercial property value? Ah yeah that's right; Billionaires. Interesting, at the bottom of every social problem we seen to find a billionaire.

[-] 0tan0d@lemmy.world 15 points 4 weeks ago

Where is this energy during lay off season? No issues witb potentially 90k hours of social bonding gone to provide better executive bonuses.

[-] AlecSadler 29 points 4 weeks ago

Every single one of my jobs in the last 5 years or so has stated that remote work has undeniably increased productivity and output, as well as general morale.

Many of them have sold all their offices so they couldn't even RTO if they wanted to.

For some reason one of them still keeps the 7 floor office building and even a receptionist and security guard...despite about 5 people working from there on any given day. But hey, whatever.

[-] frezik 8 points 4 weeks ago

Lots of leases are for 7-10 years, sometimes more. They're likely contractually obligated to keep it for now. The sunk cost on that is at least part of the reason why RTO was being pushed so hard.

Tons of office leases have expired since lockdown times and weren't renewed. Not a lot of them left, and that's why RTO mandates have waned. Still get a few "the cruelty is the point" people like what's in OP.

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[-] some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org 24 points 4 weeks ago

"Hi, I'm a shitty person who has an opinion that is self-serving. Let me tell you what I think."

[-] DemBoSain@midwest.social 21 points 4 weeks ago

I'm in the office right now, and 99% of my meetings are through Teams.

My favorite days to be here are when everyone else is somewhere else.

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[-] TomMasz@piefed.social 19 points 4 weeks ago

Being promoted to the C-suite causes brain damage.

[-] Sturgist@lemmy.ca 15 points 4 weeks ago

Nah, the brain damage is a prerequisite. It does get worse though.

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[-] jjjalljs@ttrpg.network 18 points 4 weeks ago

This person is a disgrace.

[-] Sgt_choke_n_stroke@lemmy.world 18 points 4 weeks ago

If my next job is office only. I'm strictly only using a desktop PC. You can give me a travel laptop. But I'm never taking it home.

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[-] MisterNeon@lemmy.world 16 points 4 weeks ago
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[-] AlternatePersonMan@lemmy.world 13 points 4 weeks ago

I worked in the stupid open office space these assholes designed for years. It. Sucked. Distractions everywhere. I couldn't focus on anything. Now I get double the work done in half the time and I don't have a pain in the ass commute. The hubris of assuming what works for you will work for everyone is astounding.

Thank you sooo much for your very presence. We are sooo grateful for your wisdom...

Go fuck yourself with a rusty railroad spike.

Linked in is a cancer.

[-] NigelFrobisher@aussie.zone 13 points 4 weeks ago

Codie A Sanchez does a lot less work WFH, is what I took from this.

[-] Venus_Ziegenfalle@feddit.org 11 points 4 weeks ago

Honestly to a degree I see the vision but sadly the way most workplaces are organized won't improve your mental health either.

[-] TheFunkyMonk@lemmy.world 11 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago)

As a naturally introverted person, working remotely has vastly improved my social life, well-being, and productivity.

I used to burn all my social energy at the office, and when nights and weekends came around, I’d go into hermit mode to recover. Work drained me. Now I’m sitting on my social charger all day while I’m working, and I actually have the energy to see my friends after work and have much better balance in my life.

I’m fortunate to work for a company that let everyone decide what works best for them when RTO mandates started going around, and they get better work from me because of it. This CEO can get fucked.

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[-] heavy@sh.itjust.works 11 points 4 weeks ago

This person is purposely being controversial for attention, they don't truly think this, nor is there any evidence productivity has gone down due to remote work.

Going into the office every day is a scam.

[-] Ghyste@sh.itjust.works 10 points 4 weeks ago

What an idiot. Yet another example of failing upwards.

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[-] ryathal@sh.itjust.works 10 points 4 weeks ago

The majority of people I would benefit most from being in person with aren't in the same country as me.

[-] crusa187@lemmy.ml 10 points 4 weeks ago

Investing millions in main st businesses

Obviously a commercial real estate investor, weak gaslighting attempt though.

She knows those who schlepped into offices before Covid realize how much better remote is for everyone, so tries to target kids who are fresh out of school and didn’t necessarily experience that dichotomy.

[-] Grerkol@leminal.space 8 points 4 weeks ago

"Hard truth realized as a CEO"

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[-] tired_n_bored@lemmy.world 8 points 4 weeks ago

Sleepless nights for whom? My employer? Ahahah

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