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[-] jeena@piefed.jeena.net 86 points 3 weeks ago

fax machines, both in Germany and Japan.

[-] Libra@lemmy.ml 46 points 3 weeks ago

They're common in the US too in doctors offices and hospitals because of the security requirements of transmitting patient records and such.

[-] spankmonkey@lemmy.world 75 points 3 weeks ago

Legally defined as secure, not actually secure.

They are fairly insecure in practice, since they are throwing the data at misdialed numbers and they are frequently placed in shared and insecure locations in the building where lots of people can access whatever comes through.

[-] Libra@lemmy.ml 15 points 3 weeks ago

Sure. But as someone who used to work IT with a focus on cybersecurity, physical access to anything trumps everything else, and people who put fax machines in insecure locations will also put email servers or whatever in them. Also throwing data at misdialed numbers is a tiny threat because the odds of transposing a number or whatever and also getting a fax machine are pretty tiny.

Although the guy above you was just talking about how he works in the industry and they mostly do efax now, which.. Iono how that's supposed to be more secure than just email or whatever. I guess if you're sending to physical machines it's more secure on that end, but if the senders are using efax some of the receivers prolly are too, at which point we've lost the whole point of using fax machines.

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[-] HeyJoe@lemmy.world 11 points 3 weeks ago

As someone who directly manages faxing in the company i work for, yup! In Healthcare and we send out results to doctors and hospitals through faxing all day every day. We have mostly converted to electronic fax. We still control the servers on prem but the account is linked to a cloud solution so all the faxes are created with the servers and instead of using our own telephony solution like we used to, we send directly over internet to the provider who then sends out to the clients at the last leg. Hundreds of thousands of pages every month. From my understanding, it's still the easiest solution to get away with not having to implement some new system that will be subjected to audits. Faxes are accepted, and little is required to show for compliance.

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[-] SnotFlickerman 65 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

IPv4.

IPv6 became a recognized standard by 1998.

EDIT: https://www.google.com/intl/en/ipv6/statistics.html#tab=ipv6-adoption

Nearly 30 years later, and less than half of the connections to Google are via IPv6.

[-] frezik 24 points 3 weeks ago

Fucking NAT. Never should have been allowed to escape from the lab.

[-] Chocrates@lemmy.world 14 points 3 weeks ago

Lolol, you're not wrong. NAT made IPv6 a later problem

[-] Zachariah@lemmy.world 22 points 3 weeks ago

There's no place like 127.0.0.1

[-] SnotFlickerman 9 points 3 weeks ago
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[-] blackstampede@sh.itjust.works 44 points 3 weeks ago
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[-] Bishma@discuss.tchncs.de 31 points 3 weeks ago

It surprises me how many system utilities I use that are older than I am. I am currently initializing a disk on a cloud server with an application that was written when Ford was the US president.

[-] IAmTheKernelError@piefed.social 8 points 3 weeks ago

Can you say which application it is? Does it run on a mainframe? Any idea what language was used to program it?

Sorry this is just quite interesting.

[-] SnotFlickerman 27 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)
[-] Bishma@discuss.tchncs.de 12 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

Snot Flickerman was right, it's dd. It was in the docs I linked to show the commands. It runs on anything with storage devices and an operating system. I mainly use it on Windows servers running on AWS.

[-] ExFed@programming.dev 29 points 3 weeks ago

The Wheel. We should've graduated to antigravity by now, don't you think?

[-] SnotFlickerman 13 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

Back to the Future lied to me again!

[-] FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.world 8 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

In fact, it didn't.

Hoverboards actually do exist. And for bonus points, so do speeder bikes. You probably already know about real-life jetpacks.

I wish I could live another 100 years to see better optimized versions of them.

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[-] BlushedPotatoPlayers@sopuli.xyz 27 points 3 weeks ago

I'm surprised nobody mentioned jack plugs yet. Basically unchanged since 1877 when it was invented for phone switchboards, roughly as old as safety pins or modern hairpins (give or take a few decades)

[-] SCmSTR 9 points 3 weeks ago

That can't be the actual name of those, is it?

I've always kinda wondered, and generally call them TRS or something (I'm audio engineering background, American, millennial), so looked it up:

From https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phone_connector_(audio) under the "other terms" section:

The 1902 International Library of Technology simply uses jack for the female and plug for the male connector.[3] The 1989 Sound Reinforcement Handbook uses phone jack for the female and phone plug for the male connector.[4] Robert McLeish, who worked at the BBC, uses jack or jack socket for the female and jack plug for the male connector in his 2005 book Radio Production.[5] The American Society of Mechanical Engineers, as of 2007, says the more fixed electrical connector is the jack, while the less fixed connector is the plug, without regard to the gender of the connector contacts.[6] The Institute of Electrical and Electronics Engineers in 1975 also made a standard that was withdrawn in 1997.[7]

The intended application for a phone connector has also resulted in names such as audio jack, headphone jack, stereo plug, microphone jack, aux input, etc. Among audio engineers, the connector may often simply be called a quarter-inch to distinguish it from XLR, another frequently used audio connector. These naming variations are also used for the 3.5 mm connectors, which have been called mini-phone, mini-stereo, mini jack, etc.

RCA connectors are differently shaped, but confusingly are similarly named as phono plugs and phono jacks (or in the UK, phono sockets). 3.5 mm connectors are sometimes—counter to the connector manufacturers' nomenclature[8]—referred to as mini phonos.[9]

Confusion also arises because phone jack and phone plug may sometimes refer to the RJ11 and various older telephone sockets and plugs that connect wired telephones to wall outlets.

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[-] frezik 26 points 3 weeks ago

Car thermostats for the radiator. You don't want the coolant flowing when the engine first starts, because it will run like shit. So you have a cylinder filled with wax that expands with heat. That controls a valve to set the flow of coolant. Low tech, works fine, no particular reason to change it.

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[-] tuckerm@feddit.online 22 points 3 weeks ago

There's a used bookstore near me that has the oldest cash register I've ever seen. It has keys like a typewriter, and makes the most satisfying "ka-ching" sound when it opens. They always use it to add up your purchase and print a receipt, even when you're paying with a credit card. But I always try to bring cash when I'm there so that the drawer gets used. (And also, y'know, screw credit card companies taking their cut.)

I know that's not really "in widespread use" today, which is probably what the question meant, but that was the first thing that came to mind for me.

[-] wildcardology@lemmy.world 18 points 3 weeks ago
[-] exasperation@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 points 3 weeks ago

That's not even a government thing. It's a finance/banking thing, as most major banks are still using mainframes and legacy COBOL code for most of their business logic.

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[-] scottmeme@sh.itjust.works 15 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

SS7, part of the old ass 2g and 3g networks

[-] SnotFlickerman 7 points 3 weeks ago

Kinda surprised this doesn't have more upvotes considering it seems that it continues to be a massive security vulnerability.

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[-] ikidd@lemmy.world 15 points 3 weeks ago
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[-] Zak@lemmy.world 10 points 3 weeks ago

A decade ago, I thought phone numbers would soon die out. Instead, the most popular messaging apps use them as identifiers and adoption of those in North America is poor.

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[-] toddestan@lemmy.world 11 points 3 weeks ago

It surprises me how little stick-built houses have changed in the last 50 years or so, at least in the USA.

[-] fubarx@lemmy.world 11 points 3 weeks ago
[-] mic_check_one_two@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

Hospitals use pagers because the frequency band they run on is better at penetrating walls. Shorter waves carry more data, but are easily blocked by walls. Pagers don’t need a lot of data, so they use really long waves.

And hospitals are built like bunkers, to avoid the potential need to evacuate patients during an emergency. Things like fire breaks between individual rooms, earthquake protections, being strong enough to stand up during a hurricane, etc… The goal is to be able to shelter in place instead of evacuating, because a mass evacuation of bedridden patients who all need monitoring equipment would be a logistical nightmare.

But this also means hospitals are really good at blocking wireless signals, because the walls are all super thick and sturdy. So they use pagers, which use long waves and can reliably penetrate the bunker-like walls. You don’t want a doctor to miss an emergency call because they were sitting in the basement; Hospitals need a wireless connection that reliably works every time. And pagers just happen to fit that specific niche.

[-] SCmSTR 6 points 3 weeks ago

Seems like a good level of digital freedom actually. Be connected, but only just enough.

[-] RBWells@lemmy.world 11 points 3 weeks ago

Radio. I still listen to radio over the airwaves, and received by an antenna, as it has been done since 1920.

Bicycles are not much different since around 1900.

[-] JustRalph@lemmy.world 10 points 3 weeks ago
[-] SnotFlickerman 14 points 3 weeks ago

Bidet gang ~~rise up~~ sit down!

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[-] HK65@sopuli.xyz 9 points 3 weeks ago

An Ikarus 256 was used as a train replacement bus in normal traffic in Hungary yesterday

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[-] DeathByBigSad@sh.itjust.works 9 points 3 weeks ago

Mirrors on cars.

I mean, logically I know why, but it just feels so weird and out of place in the 21st century.

Like you got this high tech vehicle with a bunch of computers inside and a lot of screens/displays, radios, GPS, “assisted driving”, then you see this mirror that’s thousands of years old and not some advanced 360 radar system.

I know that a mirror isn’t gonna fail like electronics do, so its better reliability, but still feel odd seeing old tech and new tech merged.

[-] Tar_alcaran@sh.itjust.works 13 points 3 weeks ago

I spend a fair bit of time on construction sites, and cameras have one huge issue compared to mirrors: They're one-way.

With a mirror, I can see the driver in the mirror. I can make eyecontact and confirm that they've seen me. With a camera, I have no idea if they've seen me. Maybe they can see more, but if they happen not to be looking, I have no way to tell.

And our stupid road regulations don't allow for both.

[-] skozzii@lemmy.ca 9 points 3 weeks ago

You better take a long look in the mirror before you make a controversial statement like that.

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[-] adaveinthelife@lemmy.ca 8 points 3 weeks ago

Americans signing for credit card purchases.

But maybe that died in the past few years, it's been a while since I've visited. You must have tap by now, but if not... awkward

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[-] bfg9k@lemmy.world 8 points 3 weeks ago

Pagers.

Still in use by hospitals and emergency services

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[-] affenlehrer@feddit.org 7 points 3 weeks ago

A lot of production industry still runs on PLC from the 90s or older and uses DOS supervision systems. They would continue using it but are usually forced to upgrade once they run out of spare parts and / or staff that can maintain it.

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[-] frenchfryenjoyer@lemmings.world 7 points 3 weeks ago

there's still new passenger airliners which use old fashioned control cables over fly by wire

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