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[-] Lumidaub@feddit.org 77 points 3 weeks ago

The thought of running around with a 5 million dollar ring gives me heart palpitations.

[-] Daft_ish@lemmy.dbzer0.com 78 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

The fact that a ring can be worth more then it would cost to provide financial independence for hunderds of people, is kinda jarring.

I know, I know, pretty rock and metal worth paper value notes.

[-] webghost0101@sopuli.xyz 43 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

So really that ring is pure loss.

No one owned that gem when it was just sitting in the ground. It took millions of years to create.

Some capitalism claimed it when one of his workers mined it. Calculated how much energy and labor it has costs to obtain it.

Then sold it for a massive markup compared to their own costs.

The machines have spend energy to get it (loss)

The workers spend life time and life energy to get it (loss)

Bezos his works spend their life time and energy to make him the money he now loses on this ring. (Loss)

The planet lost one of its rare gems. (Loss)

No lives are going to be saved using that rock, its not going to be used for breakthrough science, its not in a museum where we the people can admire our planet and learn from the its amazing processes. (No profit)

Instead its to decorate a hand so one person can be perceived as having value. Ironic.

[-] Lumidaub@feddit.org 21 points 3 weeks ago

Do you HAVE to be so unromantic? It obviously proved his NEVER-ENDING LOVE for his wife! Does that count for NOTHING?! /s

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[-] arandomthought@sh.itjust.works 15 points 3 weeks ago

That's enough budget for a whole ass R&D project and team. Can this ring shoot lasers or steer a helicopter or something?

[-] bobs_monkey@lemmy.zip 11 points 3 weeks ago

No, but it can checks notes impress other rich people.

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[-] TammyTobacco@sh.itjust.works 53 points 3 weeks ago

Bernie needs to set up an alt account on Twitter where he pretends to be a Republican but reposts all these same messages.

[-] Landless2029@lemmy.world 8 points 3 weeks ago

The issue is left wing agenda gets de-prioritized (buried) or outright blocked since all social media is owned by billionaires and they want to maintain the current status quo.

[-] otter@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

We need to set up an indefatigable bot army to do all that and similar...

Bets on how likely that is? We haven't even shown the ability to start anything simpler, so far...

[-] mfed1122@discuss.tchncs.de 52 points 3 weeks ago

I am also weary of Bernie's endless calls to do this or that while not specifying any way of doing it. I certainly don't expect him to do anything more, he's already made a much larger impact than most individuals ever can or will. But that entire tour with AoC kind of felt like only half of a useful thing. We all know it's a problem. We all want to put a stop to it. But nobody knows how, that's what's missing. What do you want us to do, Bernie?!? Vote in the primaries, I guess? Would be nice if the next steps were included in the message to take action. Like an instant macaroni box whose instructions just say "You must make the macaroni!", it feels a bit silly.

[-] Daft_ish@lemmy.dbzer0.com 40 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

I get this feeling when I watch Jon Oliver. Jon's really good at identifying the problem, demonstrating why its a problem, and making you kind of upset about it.

God forbid you ever watched Jon Oliver back to back because you'd go mad with the immediate understanding that you live in bizzaro world.

So, it would be nice if HBO had a second show which was more like myth busters where people championed each of the problems Jon pointed out and left the viewer with a clear understanding what they can do or at the least, what can be done.

[-] Modern_medicine_isnt@lemmy.world 40 points 3 weeks ago

He does try to give a solution. It's just that there is little to nothing the average viewer can do to make it happen. Sadly, that is just the way it is. Same with Bernie. We actually can't make the solutions happen. But both are raising public awareness, which "can" impact policy. So I guess watching and listening is what we can do.

[-] andxz@lemmy.world 11 points 3 weeks ago

...and if nothing else, documenting what is being done, if it will ever come to a point where it can be turned around.

There's a reason the Nazis paved over and planted fucking trees on as many concentration camps they possibly could before they got overrun.

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[-] mfed1122@discuss.tchncs.de 10 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

I do think that "the system" (not any particular person or group of people, but the more abstract social meta-organism) is evolved, all systems are, to integrate and channel possible destabilizing forces into neutralized or even system-reaffirming forces. The system does not "platform" people who would legitimately threaten the system as a general rule. Jon Oliver is a pressure release valve, if he was to propose solutions that threatened to alter the system too much (systems see significant alterations as akin to death), he would be deplatformed organically. Again, I must stress that it is not an actual person or organization explicitly setting out to do this, like some sort of shady Comedy Central Illuminati. It's just the same as how our body has a bunch of independent organs and cells that all work together without exactly trying to or knowing that they're doing so.

Unfortunately Bernie is largely the same sort of thing. We can be assured of this by the fact that he is influential. Almost without exception, the more influential someone wants to be, the more pro-systemic they must be. In Bernie's case he may not even realize how pro-systemic he is, he likely sees himself as more anti-systemic. But he is anti-systemic in the same way as a white blood cell is anti-systemic - that is, not at all, and only in appearance without inspection of the bigger picture. I suspect this is why he ends up not proposing any clear course of action. His role, although again I think he is unaware of this, is to create the sense that establishment dissent exists and is possible, that change and reform is possible. I say this without taking a stance on whether it is actually possible or not. Both in a system where it is possible and in a system where it is not possible, there would still be a flag bearer for that possibility regardless of its actual existence.

What I mean to say is that the system self-selects for the type of people who acknowledge problems but not the type of people who make proposals to fix them. It wants to appear to be investigating the desires of its constituents while not actually doing so - the system only cares about its constituents in so far as its constituents lead to the system's well-being as a whole. The system does not intrinsically care for its constituents well-being. So while systems do indeed evolve and legitimately investigate ways to improve their own well-being, they will only appear to investigate ways to approve the well-being of their constituents, if they can help it.

All just my impressions of course, I hate talking in an authoritative voice about my ideas, but it's better than prefacing every sentence with "I think", "it seems like", etc.

[-] WorldsDumbestMan@lemmy.today 6 points 3 weeks ago

Grow your own food, make your own things, slash your expenses. If everyone does this, the enemy loses most of their power

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[-] MBech@feddit.dk 22 points 3 weeks ago

If he said what needs to be done, he'd be imprisoned immediately for inciting violence against the president, and for planning a coup. Until he has troops on his side, he can not tell you what actually has to happen.

[-] Ryktes@lemmy.world 9 points 3 weeks ago

We already know what needs to be done, we just aren't allowed to talk about it.

The Tree of Liberty is thirsty.

[-] NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io 7 points 3 weeks ago

Hear hear. When I look at the state of American democracy from outside, what I find really distressing is that it's not just Bernie; no mainstream person or organization with national reach is giving concrete advice and/or instructions on how to depose the oligarchy, so you have people's energy going to angry tweets and meaningless parades.

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[-] saimen@feddit.org 32 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

So he only spends 0,0087 % of his wealth for the wedding? Sounds pathetic. Most normal people even go in debt for it.

[-] wabasso@lemmy.ca 11 points 3 weeks ago

I like this comment even though I can’t actually confirm it’s sarcasm. I think it’s be great if we all spent 0,0087% of our wealth on engagement rings.

[-] StupidBrotherInLaw@lemmy.world 7 points 3 weeks ago

I could afford the finest plastic ring in all of Poundland. It's a shame the founders didn't opt to name their venture Poundtown, though.

[-] OCATMBBL@lemmy.world 31 points 3 weeks ago

That chick should be mad. 3-months salary for him would be like $27 billion.

[-] axEl7fB5@lemmy.cafe 9 points 3 weeks ago

He should've used antimatter as a ring

[-] procrastitron@lemmy.world 8 points 3 weeks ago

If you assume 7% annual rate of return on that $230 billion, then 3 months "salary" would be a little over $4 billion.

That being said, as others have pointed out, the "3 months salary" guideline is just propaganda from DeBeers and no one in their right mind should ever spend that type of money on a piece of jewelry.

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[-] Lucky_777@lemmy.world 22 points 3 weeks ago

5 million dollar ring for that wife?

Sir Mix Alot would be ashamed. Silicone parts are made for toys

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[-] wheezy@lemmy.ml 21 points 3 weeks ago

So, while I agree with the "vote away Fascism" being bull shit I do still think that working class momentum can be built through wins like Mamdani.

[-] bampop@lemmy.world 23 points 3 weeks ago

I see so many comments saying "voting won't work", "protesting won't work" etc. Anything that has any visible result, works. Because the majority of people follow the herd to a greater or lesser extent. You need to mobilise that majority in order to make a difference. The more you have a movement, the bigger, louder and more visible that is, the more people will join you. People need to feel which way the wind is blowing.

[-] RedAggroBest@lemmy.world 5 points 3 weeks ago

"that doesn't work" people are just better educated versions of the my-anecdote-disproves-science types. Those people usually need more local engagement because of fuckin-course you can't tell if voting is working when the gap between the individual voter and federal level reps is so huge. Anyone who's paying attention to their local elections knows votes matter.

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[-] Guidy@lemmy.world 20 points 3 weeks ago

All I ever get asked for by the politicians I vote for (the Democrats) is money.

Maybe I’m subscribed to the wrong things.

[-] coyootje@lemmy.world 20 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

Good thing they implemented even more tax cuts for the rich, coming soon™...

But obviously not too soon, otherwise they can't blame the dems for it.

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[-] AlecSadler 16 points 3 weeks ago

I hope we end it with violence.

[-] BestBouclettes@jlai.lu 12 points 3 weeks ago

There's very little chance it ends otherwise to be fair. Talking and negotiation didn't work, peaceful protest didn't work.

[-] 0x01@lemmy.ml 8 points 3 weeks ago

Apathy prevents violence, and will continue to do so until the vast majority of people are in constant pain and fear with absolutely no alternative. When the people have nothing to lose they will act.

Even the most politically aware and ethically minded among us can't drop their daily lives in favor of standing up for the oppressed when standing on the razor edge of working every day to avoid homelessness.

Those who are not on the razor edge have "more to lose" by toppling the system

[-] otter@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 3 weeks ago

Newsflash: it already is ending with violence.

We're losing. Handily.

[-] njm1314@lemmy.world 6 points 3 weeks ago

This is the part so few people understand.

[-] jaybone@lemmy.zip 5 points 3 weeks ago

Checks com instance

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[-] Dorkyd68@lemmy.world 13 points 3 weeks ago

I'm sorry 5 million? For a ring? I'd feel insane amounts of guilt wearing a ring that cost that much

[-] jjjalljs@ttrpg.network 21 points 3 weeks ago

I imagine if these people were capable of feeling guilt, much of their behavior would be different

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[-] WhatGodIsMadeOf@feddit.org 9 points 3 weeks ago

Even he knows this won't be fixed by political discourse.

[-] GladiusB@lemmy.world 7 points 3 weeks ago

Let's vote for....it.

Well this is awkward

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