This reminds me of a reddit thread I saw years ago that talked about pedophilia and how there are anonymous groups for people who realize that it's wrong and want to be "cured"

But they have to hide and use complete anonymity, else their lives would be ruined

They're people suffering from, in my opinion, a mental illness but cannot get help, and I find it quite tragic, actually

You're probably right.

I do wanna say that as someone with autism, people do not treat it as wholesome in relationships. It's definitely given a bit of leeway but in the grant scheme of things people will respect the idea of autism, but no one actually cares about what I deal with on a day-to-day basis and it sucks because people still get mad at you when they inevitably don't realize a lot of things happen because of it.

I just have to assume a lot of people get used to the idea of mental disabilities, but they can not deal with them in person.

I haven't seen these be treated 'differently' in my bubble, but I curate my bubble to be pretty inclusive. The line for me is where someone's mental illness is starting to affect other people negatively. The whole, "Your mental illness is not your fault, but it is your responsibility."

So when I see 'compulsive liar' in your list, I'm a little wary. Having compulsions isn't wrong but if you're habitually lying to other people, that's going to lead to a loss of trust. That's not ableism, it's just the only reasonable way to protect yourself when someone consistently lies to you.

I've got my own plethora of mental illnesses and I've been the bad guy in someone else's story, because I fucked up and let my mental illness become their problem, and it wasn't right of me. So I hold other people to that standard.

I completely understand what your talking about. I have NPD/HPD myself and it's never sat right with me that people who advocate for better understanding of mental health completely change when it comes to things that aren't seen as something to be pitied like autism.

You also see it with things like schizophrenia or substance abuse.

If you look at autism and ADD, it has taken over a decade of communication about what it is and how to interact with people with those conditions. Even then, there is still some ableism regarding those conditions.

I haven't seen anywhere near that level of communication for what to do with people with those conditions.

Personality disorders aren't like "regular" mental health disorders, because with most disorders, it's the patient who suffers. With personality disorders, those suffering are usually the ones around the patient.

I think the problem is that these issues cause problems for others. ADHD and autism cause problems GENERALLY for the autistic person. BPD people can be horrifically abusive. So yes they get more stigmatized. It sucks but really mental issues SHOULDN'T be stigmatized until it becomes problematic towards others.

Nah