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Get ready to lose again, assholes. (slrpnk.net)
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[-] njm1314@lemmy.world 56 points 3 weeks ago

Well just like with War on Drugs is not about winning. It's about making as much money off of it as you can. Note they didn't try to address the problems with immigration. They didn't change the Green Card system. They didn't expand the number of immigration judges. They didn't do anything except fund ice and fund more detention centers which are privately run at extremely huge markups.

[-] surewhynotlem@lemmy.world 18 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

And prison slavery is legal. Guess who will be working the farms

Edit: it's legal.

[-] CoffeeJunkie@lemmy.cafe 11 points 3 weeks ago

Prison slavery is technically illegal, but they are paid incredibly meager wages to where it's essentially legal slavery.

[-] surewhynotlem@lemmy.world 2 points 3 weeks ago

I meant to say prison slavery is legal

[-] Quetzalcutlass@lemmy.world 35 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

The bloated ICE budget isn't just to wage war against immigrants, it's also because they realized the military wouldn't side with them if they tried to seize/retain power. Now they have a massive, well-funded army of racist thugs that answers only to them, sidestepping the Constitution and chain-of-command entirely.

[-] jjjalljs@ttrpg.network 22 points 3 weeks ago

This is like the SS in 1920s germany, right?

[-] HK65@sopuli.xyz 9 points 3 weeks ago

It was the SA back then, the brownshirts. But I think the inspiration is more the Rosgvardiya in Russia

[-] echodot@feddit.uk 9 points 3 weeks ago

The military are actually trained though. There's no point trying to train these guys they are military rejects.

The US military versus these guys would be more farcical than anything else.

[-] HK65@sopuli.xyz 9 points 3 weeks ago

The point is that the military will sit it out since they can't be deployed domestically

[-] amino 4 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

not if the protesters are declared foreign agents/a civil war is declared.

look at the Syrian, Sudanese and Egyptian revolutions

[-] echodot@feddit.uk 4 points 3 weeks ago

If the US gets to that point I don't think those rules will apply anymore.

[-] Furbag@lemmy.world 2 points 3 weeks ago

Why not? Trump just deployed them to LA and got away with it. He could do it again. The courts have proven about a dozen times since the election that they will not hold him accountable for blatant constitutional violations. Half of congress is on his side so they will never hold him accountable either. There's nobody left to stop him from doing whatever he wants.

[-] Diplomjodler3@lemmy.world 26 points 3 weeks ago

The "war on drugs" was never about winning. It was about funneling public money into private pockets and about scaring the populace into compliance. Same with the immigration bullshit.

[-] JayDee@lemmy.sdf.org 3 points 3 weeks ago

Let me introduce you to the racist motive

The Nixon campaign in 1968, and the Nixon White House after that, had two enemies: the antiwar left and Black people. You understand what I’m saying? We knew we couldn’t make it illegal to be either against the war or Black, but by getting the public to associate the hippies with marijuana and Blacks with heroin, and then criminalizing both heavily, we could disrupt those communities. We could arrest their leaders, raid their homes, break up their meetings, and vilify them night after night on the evening news. Did we know we were lying about the drugs? Of course we did.

  • John Ehrlichman, President Nixon's Domestic Policy Cheif. (Harper's Magazine)
[-] eatCasserole@lemmy.world 15 points 3 weeks ago

Don't forget Afghanistan.

[-] macaw_dean_settle@lemmy.world 5 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

The war was not lost there, it was pretty quickly won. The reconstruction was lost.

[-] AllToRuleThemOne@lemmy.world 7 points 3 weeks ago

I‘d say it was a very long fought war against the Taliban, who managed to survive and eventually won since they are in charge now.

[-] kyub@discuss.tchncs.de 9 points 3 weeks ago

"The US will always do the right thing... after having exhausted all other possibilities."

[-] burgerpocalyse@lemmy.world 9 points 3 weeks ago

winning the war isnt the goal

[-] Pendorilan@lemmy.world 9 points 3 weeks ago

"Terror". The US loves waging unwinnable wars against inanimate objects (drugs) and feelings (terror) lol totally irrational.

[-] considine@lemmy.ml 5 points 3 weeks ago

Does Vicky think Russia is losing the war?

[-] 5too@lemmy.world 10 points 3 weeks ago

They certainly haven't won

[-] krakenfury@lemmy.sdf.org 3 points 3 weeks ago

It is kind of a weird take when Russia has captured quite a bit of land. Sure, it's costing them a lot (you might even say in inordinate sum), but characterizing them as losing is a hard sell.

[-] WorldsDumbestMan@lemmy.today 4 points 3 weeks ago

They are losing right now...they can't actually replace the airplanes and other resources, due to their economy slowly crashing.

So that will be their undoing. Dad is going to get a reality check soon (=

[-] krakenfury@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 3 weeks ago

I hope you are right

[-] TachyonTele@piefed.social 4 points 3 weeks ago

Right right. But you can't funnel money out of the system if there isn't any going into it.

[-] macaw_dean_settle@lemmy.world 3 points 3 weeks ago

Vietnam was not lost, it was abandoned.

[-] Alcoholicorn@mander.xyz 14 points 3 weeks ago

We retreated after taking massive losses and accomplishing none of our strategic objectives, unless you consider sending a generation of youth, poisoning the land for generations, and committing countless atrocities to be the real objectives, rather than the stated goal of preventing Vietnam, a country that is still communist to this day, from becoming communist?

[-] Diplomjodler3@lemmy.world 11 points 3 weeks ago

It was absolutely lost.

[-] reddit_castaway 11 points 3 weeks ago

Lol, lmao even

[-] Objection@lemmy.ml 9 points 3 weeks ago

So true bestie.

Unrelated, but the other day, someone cornered me in an alley with a gun and demanded I hand over my wallet - but I didn't lose to them! I simply put my hands up and abandoned my wallet, very different.

[-] TimewornTraveler@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 3 weeks ago

I know it's going to hurt when lemmy tries to smack the liberal out of you but we will still love you in the end

[-] DicJacobus@lemmy.world 2 points 3 weeks ago

an important caveat about what happened with Russia, an enormous amount of their military was only on paper, because it had either been lied about, or stuff was stolen, from various positions on the pecking order.

It should also be noted that after a shitshow of year 1 and being unable to fight a combined arms mechanized war, they switched back to the brute force and massive casualty strategy, and for all intents and purposes, It worked, all Ukraine can do is try to hold territory and kill soldiers, but realistically due to Western cowardice and ratfuckery, the door closed a long time ago on Ukraine being able to dislodge Russia from its stolen territory.

[-] RadioFreeArabia@lemmy.world 2 points 3 weeks ago

The US doesn't always lose. They won against the indigenous peoples in the Indian Wars (1775-1924).

[-] YtA4QCam2A9j7EfTgHrH@infosec.pub 2 points 3 weeks ago

Fuck I love Margaret Killjoy and company!

[-] SlartyBartFast@sh.itjust.works 1 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

The poster forgot about Afghanistan, it should be on that list too

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