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[-] IAmNorRealTakeYourMeds@lemmy.world 73 points 1 month ago
[-] samus12345@sh.itjust.works 31 points 1 month ago
[-] Corn@lemmy.ml 9 points 1 month ago

I'm Jewish and I'm upset whenever someone calls Jew Harp (an instrument) or Jew Ears (an edible mushroom) with another name.

come on, why can't we be associated with yummy mushrooms or cool cowboy instruments?

if you call it Jaw harp i want to break your jaw,

at least the Latin name for jew ear still says jew ear

[-] IAmNorRealTakeYourMeds@lemmy.world 67 points 1 month ago

what are the changes and why?

can't post this and expect us to carry on

[-] ChexMax@lemmy.world 46 points 1 month ago

Yeah! I'm barely able to get mad about this with no information!

[-] evasive_chimpanzee@lemmy.world 11 points 1 month ago

This sort of thing happens all the time, and it's usually subject to some level of debate. Just look at the ponderosa pine (pinus ponderosa. Some say there is one species with multiple subspecies, some say they are just different varieties, some say that they are different species, or some are and some arent, etc.

[-] socsa@piefed.social 38 points 1 month ago

From henceforth "trees" shall now be called "tall wavy bois" and "flowers" shall be known as "colorful stemmy bennies."

I will not be taking questions.

But what will the tree community be about then?

[-] binary45@lemmy.world 11 points 1 month ago

Weed. Like it’s always been.

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[-] HappySkullsplitter@lemmy.world 29 points 1 month ago
[-] Infernal_pizza@lemmy.dbzer0.com 26 points 1 month ago

The only reason Pluto is no longer a planet is because we discovered there were loads more planets and couldn't be bothered to acknowledge their existence!

[-] shneancy@lemmy.world 16 points 1 month ago

i've spent 25 years on this blue marble fascinated by space, and only recently discovered there multiple long orbit dwarf planets going around the sun??? that is so cool why is this not widely known!

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[-] mnemonicmonkeys@sh.itjust.works 8 points 1 month ago

It's been like that for decades to be honest. Ceres used to be called a planet, but you don't see anyone complaining about it's demotion

[-] ZILtoid1991@lemmy.world 8 points 1 month ago

Unpopular opinion: dwarf planets are cool.

[-] IAmNorRealTakeYourMeds@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

but so what?

we used to have a handful of elements, but when we kept discovering more, we didn't change the rules to have elements, and "strange elements" so schools only have to teach about 16 elements.

[-] umbraroze@slrpnk.net 13 points 1 month ago

Well elements are elements. All of them are just protons and neutrons and electrons at the end of the day. They have different properties but all of them behave by the same rules.

But there's some big differences between the various kinds of bodies orbiting the Sun and how they're orbiting the Sun. Big asteroids were considered planets, until we discovered there's a shitload of them and they're all in roughly the same area. When it turned out Pluto is basically in the same situation and there's a lot more of the transneptunian objects, it was pretty clear that Pluto isn't special. If you compare it to planets it's pretty weird. But I think it's good that they created the dwarf planet classification because that also elevated Ceres back, hell yeah.

[-] IAmNorRealTakeYourMeds@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

I'd rather we have dozens of planets, with news articles talking about "new planets discovered"

we can still teach the handful of "classical planets", so we can have posters, or have like periodic tables, and everyone be aware that they might go out of date as more is discoverd.

the solar system will be more exciting and more varied.

also, the "clearing orbit from similar objects" is time and orbit dependent,

larger orbits take longer to clear, which mean in a few billion years ceres might eject pluto and become a planet?

or we could have gas giants beyond pluto (like this hypothetical 9th planet ) which it would be unlikely it has cleared its orbit, so we could have a planet larger than Jupiter which we would call a planet, but if we discover another planet in its orbit (too large to clear), then we will have to say that it is a dwarf planet.

[-] squaresinger@lemmy.world 3 points 4 weeks ago

The main issue here is that everything from a speck of dust to the massive black hole at the centre of the galaxis is pretty much the same thing on a large spectrum.

You can clearly say that some grains of dust are something entirely different than a supermassive black hole, but it's really hard to find solid cut-off points to categorize anything in between.

So we started with a handful of arbitrary examples for each category, which was easy when we only had these examples, but with more and more discoveries the gaps between these examples are filled and it becomes a spectrum, and then it becomes iffy what exactly fits into which category.

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[-] prole 5 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

It's all just made up categorization. It's like that because astronomers have agreed to categorize them like that. That's all.

[-] samus12345@sh.itjust.works 7 points 1 month ago
[-] _AutumnMoon_ 4 points 1 month ago

And Jupiter is a Gas Giant, but we still count it as one of the planets of our solar system

[-] samus12345@sh.itjust.works 7 points 1 month ago

Because if dwarf planets counted, we'd have to include a hell of a lot more than 9 planets.

[-] merc@sh.itjust.works 7 points 1 month ago

NASA says there are only 5 dwarf planets in the system. But, it's all pretty arbitrary. The line between planet, dwarf planet and asteroid are all pretty fuzzy.

An alien civilization looking at the Sol system might say that it's only got one planet, Jupiter. Everything else is so much smaller that they're not really significant.

Another logical cut-off would be that planets had to be bigger than any moons in the system. If we went by that standard, Jupiter, Saturn, Uranus, Neptune, Earth, Venus and Mars could all still count as planets, but Mercury would get ditched because it's smaller than Ganymede and Titan.

What's funny is that we're still using the name "planet" which comes from "asteres planētai", meaning "wandering star". For the Greeks what mattered wasn't the size or the mass, it was how bright they were. That meant that a tiny object near the sun like Mercury (Hermes) got the name planet, because despite being tiny, the fact it's close to the sun means it reflects a lot of light. And Jupiter (Zeus) and Saturn (Cronus) got named not because they're so big, but because they're big and far away from the sun, which means they reflect sunlight in a similar way to the much smaller inner planets. Earth's moon might have been given the name "planet" if it had been a lot smaller and/or further away.

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[-] floquant@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 1 month ago

Pluto's not a planet, but he doesn't care because he knows he's hot shit.

https://youtu.be/EuRjmzz6qL0

[-] llii@discuss.tchncs.de 6 points 1 month ago

Pluto is a ~~planet~~ plant!

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[-] prole 5 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

The most performative "hurr durr science" bullshit ever. Who fucking cares if Pluto was considered a planet when you were a kid?

Not you specifically. There are people who really seem to care about this shit.

[-] ZILtoid1991@lemmy.world 26 points 1 month ago

NPC wojak: "I love science."

"Science says sex and gender are two different things."

NPC wojak gets angry: "Science was corrupted by the Jewish cabal! See: John Money*!"

* John Money is not Jewish, but is pushed by transphobes with the hope you'll accuse him being one.

forget about John Money

look into Magnus Hirschfeld, had the first gender clinic and did research and surveys on gender, he pioneer gender treatments and helped transsexual people (that's was the name back then)

he was Jewish and was targeted by the Nazis exactly how you said.

The famous book burnings started out when they raided his institute and burned all his research.

[-] ZILtoid1991@lemmy.world 2 points 4 weeks ago

Using Martin Hirschfeld has the issue of not being able to sell the myth of "transgenderism is a recent thing".

[-] IAmNorRealTakeYourMeds@lemmy.world 19 points 1 month ago

meanwhile,

we still refuse to call Sonic th hedgehog protein anything else.

[-] JadenSmith@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

I mean, I'm ngl sometimes I do feel like I gotta go fast.

Sometimes I also want to curl up into a ball, too.

[-] SlartyBartFast@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 month ago

So no one can see me because I'm so small

[-] Mothra@mander.xyz 18 points 1 month ago

Cue in the guys about to get hanged meme. Paleontologist asking the Botanist, "First time?"

[-] OldManBOMBIN@lemmy.world 18 points 1 month ago

Potatoes are now called potatoes

[-] TimewornTraveler@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 4 weeks ago

tomatoes and potatoes are now called tomatos and potatos

[-] squaresinger@lemmy.world 2 points 4 weeks ago
[-] OldManBOMBIN@lemmy.world 2 points 4 weeks ago

If you have to ask, you can't afford em

[-] TimewornTraveler@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 points 4 weeks ago

which plants though? are you making shit up?

[-] chrome_daddy@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago

I'll be damned if you expect me to start calling it a Brazil nut

[-] swab148@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 1 month ago

Brazil Deez nutz

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