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In our recently submitted grants we had to change “traumatic brain injury” to “concussive brain injury” and “male and female mice” to “male and non-male mice” because traumatic and female are now verboten words that can get our grants killed. It’s insanity.
The party that swears there are only Two Genders really seems to only believe in One.
Cede conservatives a fraction of an inch and they will take a hundred miles.
First they came for...
There are two genders. Male and political.
And two races, white and political. And two sexualities, straight and political... Etc.
under His eye
This is why politics and science shouldn't mix. The truth is the truth, no matter how inconvenient it is to your bottom line.
Politics and Science will literally always mix. Science always exists in a political context. It’s not some platonic ideal.
The research that gets funded, published, advertised. The people that have the privilege to get degrees and academia jobs. Is all inherently political. It’s maybe more obvious now with Trump’s meddling, but it literally always has been this way.
I think it’s dangerous to look at science (especially social sciences, political sciences, economics, sociology, psychology etc.) without considering the political context.
I understand that, my point was in an ideal world expert panels and not politicians would get the final say in policy-setting and funding decisions. My main example is the clusterfuck the NIH and health department has become under the lunatic in charge.
I understand that this stuff is inherently political, I had to pivot on the narrative of my own master's thesis because of the "interesting" results we generated
But
All this is political.
What you’re describing is technocracy. And it has major limitations.
thats fair. I guess there is no such thing as a perfect system, there will always be conflict of interest and bias. I get your point too, just because someone is an expert in their field doesn't mean their knowledge translates to leadership and good judgement on funding decisions ect.
I knee jerk upvoted the parent that this was responding to. Then I read your comment and I did a complete 180. This is obvious in retrospect and very insightful. Thanks
You can upvote good discussion and points that are wrong or you disagree with. I downvote assholes and people who add nothing to the discussion.
That's just wrong. Everything is politics.
Politics not invading science means horrific human experiments at the extreme end.
Politics must decide where funding should go for public science projects. They must mix for that reason. Politics retaliate in the case of human designer babies in China. And that is considered good by some.
Just because a government is heinously terrible does not mean governing is bad. It just means that they do it badly.
So.....it......it was the conservatives that were snowflakes all along?
I did Nazi that coming.
Me trying to get grants for my rat trebuchet
Is it operated by rats or throwing rats?
Trebuchet of the rats, by the rats, for the rats.
I have two pet rats, and I'm pretty confident that they'd love a trebuchet. I could see one of them operating while the other is the ammunition.
Or, both operating with more conventional projectiles. Rats crave destruction and chaos. And also cuddles.
Wait I thought it was Woke that was supposed to be policing what language we used?
Something, something, every accusation, a confession
Had to change the wording in my grants from “biodiversity” to “biological variety”. I work in conservation. This is indeed insanity.
I went through some of my papers partially supported by US grants and all of them use a bunch of forbidden words. This is basically pure maths, and you are not allowed to use "equality" as in the relationship between one expression and another is an equality? It is so increadibly stupid. Look:
Me frantically going through all my Maths papers to replace the equal sign with “Is Equivalent to”
That’s so fucking asinine
list of banned words btw
Activism, activists, advocacy, advocate, enhancing diversity, equal opportunity, equality, equitable, advocates, equity, ethnicity, barrier, barriers, biased, biased toward, biases, biases towards, BIPOC, Black and Latinx, excluded, female, females, fostering inclusivity, gender, gender diversity, genders, hate speech, Hispanic minority, community diversity, community equity, cultural differences, cultural heritage, historically, implicit bias, culturally responsive, implicit biases, disabilities, inclusion, disability, discriminated, discrimination, inclusive, minorities, minority, multicultural, polarization, political, prejudice, privileges, promoting diversity, race and ethnicity, racial, racial diversity, racial inequality, racial justice, racially, racism, sense of belonging, sexual preferences, social justice, sociocultural, socioeconomic status, stereotypes, systemic, inclusiveness, discriminatory, diverse backgrounds, inclusivity, increase diversity, increase the diversity, trauma, underappreciated, diverse communities, Indigenous community, underrepresented, diverse community, diverse group, inequalities, inequality, underserved, diverse groups, inequitable, diversified, inequities, diversify, diversifying, diversity and inclusion, diversity equity, institutional, LGBT, marginalize, marginalized, underrepresentation, underrepresented, underserved, undervalued, victim, women, underrepresented.
Well that's doubleplus ungood.
Tell me this: if you were watching a movie and men in black masks were taking people off the street and sending them off, never to be seen again, and those same men were separating children from parents forcibly and locking them all in cages/compounds for months on end....
Would those people in this hypothetical movie, strike you as "good" guys, or "bad" guys?
Because that's what's happening, in real life, in the USA, right now.
Cue the "are we the baddies?" meme.
It's not that meme, they will never have that moment of revelation because they enjoy what they are doing, and signed up for the chance to hurt others
Humanity contains monsters and we need to stop pretending it doesn't
God, that's so right-woke.
A healthy, broadly educated population, which feels safe and secure, are incompatible with, and toxic to, conservative and authoritarian ideologies.
They need you to be sick, stupid, and scared.
Twenty years ago I was sitting in a city council meeting in middle Statesia where the city engineer was giving an estimate of traffic at an intersection. He described a liberal estimate (in this case the higher estimate) but led them that if he called it a liberal estimate they'd ignore it, so he was redefining conservative estimate to mean the opposite of what it does for all of his estimates just so they wouldn't dismiss them out of hand. And it worked, the dumbfucks on the city council liked the numbers just because he called them conservative.
Conservatives are fucking morons lmao
Yup.
Knuckledragging fools that are dragging us down with them.
wake up babe, new politically correct has dropped
literally PC culture gone mad
And we should definitely call it "Politically correct" speech, because that's what it is. They liflke to accuse the left of being politically correct, so let's turn it back on them.
I watched an interesting video recently on "Lysenkoism".
In short, it's a horrible example of what happens when party politics are more important than correct science. And it should all feel very familiar to what's happening in the US right now.
Yeah that's what happens when "science" is based on capitalism, fascism, etc. It's just more explicit now.
Anti-Woke stuff is ridiculous.
Instead of "Leftwing" and "Rightwing", we should just use "Alpha" and "Beta" respectively, just like they wanted. 🤭
cool to read that you lot use "verboten" as a legit word
People skeeting stuff.
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