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Canada rescinds digital services tax to advance trade discussions with the United States (www.cbc.ca)

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[-] Archangel1313@lemmy.ca 95 points 3 months ago

This is NOT what people voted for. Fuck Carney.

[-] CircaV@lemmy.ca 43 points 3 months ago

He forgot already. He got voted in to go balls to the wall. Fuck this.

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[-] CircaV@lemmy.ca 63 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

I am so so so angry about this. Trunp said the 51st state again - TODAY. And Carney folds like a cheap ass suit on the DST. Fuck that. Carney appeasing fash like a pro. Carney “we’re masters in our own house” blah de blah fuck off. Tax those yank fucks or they can gtfo of our country. I don’t want yank social media shitmaganda. Fuck Carney for this. 1 term, short lived PM.

[-] floofloof@lemmy.ca 29 points 3 months ago

Liberals will never save us. Unfortunately the electoral system screws us.

[-] CircaV@lemmy.ca 12 points 3 months ago

Conservatives would do the same thing

[-] lost_faith@lemmy.ca 6 points 3 months ago

There wouldn't have even been a charade of standing up under the cons

[-] ValueSubtracted@startrek.website 59 points 3 months ago

Elbows way, way down.

[-] geekgrrl0@lemmy.ca 38 points 3 months ago

Our elbows seem to be made of cotton

[-] Reannlegge@lemmy.ca 36 points 3 months ago

I have turned off a lot of US services and plan to have more turned off this week, I have been slowly cutting things as I come across them, my elbows are up it is to bad Carney has put his elbows down.

I was looking at my ISPs email stuff, for some reason? I found out they have moved to an exchange service, so a Microsoft protocol. I have sense started moving all of my emails off of there to (they are trying to stop offering email so it is nothing off their back).

[-] floofloof@lemmy.ca 19 points 3 months ago

Yes, end those subscriptions to US services, boycott US companies, do the work that Carney won't do.

[-] Sunshine@lemmy.ca 12 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Grassroots actions will overtake Carney's poor decisions.

[-] CobraChicken3000@lemmy.ca 16 points 3 months ago

Good on you! I have been cancelling everything American and moving my digital services to Europe.

[-] CircaV@lemmy.ca 6 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Protonmail, Tuta, NorthMail for email. Lemmy obviously (instead of Reddit), Gander for social media. Next is google, Microsoft, azure, SharePoint. I already don’t have Amazon or Netflix. I use wirenine for webhosting and the servers are in Montreal.

[-] Reannlegge@lemmy.ca 5 points 3 months ago

I have started self hosting a lot of things, and using Canadian hosting for my passwords and domain.

[-] engene@lemmy.ca 27 points 3 months ago

Great! Did we just kiss the ring here!?

[-] CircaV@lemmy.ca 30 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Yep and Carney just ended the honeymoon. He’s gonna soon feel the wrath of Canadians who took a chance on his bougie “I’ve handled crisis before” ass.

[-] RelativityRanger@lemmy.ca 19 points 3 months ago

Fuck this bullshit

[-] Darkcoffee@sh.itjust.works 19 points 3 months ago

Elbows straight into the mantle of the earth.

[-] Sunshine@lemmy.ca 17 points 3 months ago

Carney is a clown who should've been given a much smaller majority.

[-] MapleEngineer@lemmy.world 6 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Carney has a minority. Be quiet, the adults are talking.

[-] Gnumile@lemmy.ca 16 points 3 months ago

I wonder how many of the "fuck Trudeau" people are upset about this tax being dropped...which was introduced by Trudeau

[-] cyberpunk007@lemmy.ca 8 points 3 months ago

Feels like all I can do at this point is to continue to not buy American.

[-] Sunshine@lemmy.ca 6 points 3 months ago

Change needs to come from the bottom-up.

[-] CircaV@lemmy.ca 4 points 3 months ago

Those kkklowns want to be a state.

[-] LeFantome@programming.dev 16 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

CACO?

Carney Always Chickens Out

[-] anachronist@midwest.social 4 points 3 months ago

[-] DoctorNope@lemmy.world 3 points 3 months ago

My god, he could at least have given the chicken a week to stew and see if he folds. Instead…

Carney Already Returned to Negotiations Emptyhanded Yesterday?

[-] Frenezul0_o@lemmy.world 15 points 3 months ago

We shouldn't negotiate with terrorists.

[-] grte@lemmy.ca 13 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

So that's three taxes cut and a promise to increase the share of the national budget spent on the military to 30~%. One of the tax cuts and the military spending target being direct capitulations to Trump. Great start. What's next, we end national health care and open the Canadian market to US health insurance companies?

[-] avidamoeba@lemmy.ca 11 points 3 months ago

Now I hear the angry noises here, and I'm pretty angry myself, but I'm hoping that this is one elbow down so we can get something for it, like keeping supply management. If we get fucked on all fronts then... Yeah. Fuck.

[-] CircaV@lemmy.ca 10 points 3 months ago

You do not capitulate to fash. Carney is a clown.

[-] ImplyingImplications@lemmy.ca 4 points 3 months ago

I don't like it either, but stroking Trump's ego and not doing anything to set him off is probably a better strategy than telling him to go fuck himself. Although I really really hope it works out. If Carney doesn't get a win the Liberals are going to be replaced real quick.

[-] danielquinn@lemmy.ca 25 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

It will not work. It never works. Trump is a bully. When in the history of the universe has capitulating to a bully ever resulted in a fair deal?

[-] ImplyingImplications@lemmy.ca 3 points 3 months ago

I'm not sure pissing off bullies leads to fair deals either. I'm thinking Carney isn't trying to get a good deal, but to avoid a trade war. Hell, Trump could order air strikes on Canada. He did it with Iran. Probably best not to piss him off. $2 billion in tax would be great but the government can also just print $2 billion if they really wanted to.

[-] danielquinn@lemmy.ca 11 points 3 months ago

What makes you think that he won't further a trade war or drop bombs on Vancouver if we do give him everything he wants? Placating bullies doesn't pacify them, it emboldens them. Canada should be pushing back against the US and dragging the rest of the world with us in the process. Instead, everyone is just falling in line while Trump walks all over us.

If we're really lucky, we'll get to keep some cosmetic sovereignty out of all of this, but I don't like our chances.

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[-] CircaV@lemmy.ca 7 points 3 months ago

We’re in a trade war - and moving away from the US ina way that will ensure for generations or longer. Carney capitulated to fash. We are Austria in 1938.

[-] floofloof@lemmy.ca 12 points 3 months ago

Replaced by the Conservatives who will try even harder to do everything Trump wants, because they have always wanted to turn Canada into the USA? We're in a bit of a sticky spot here.

[-] avidamoeba@lemmy.ca 5 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

I'm not sure if we'll replace him just yet. He has to show that he's tried all reasonable avenues and if he does and Trump still fucks us, then he comes out and says - I tried all I could, now we'll have to take these unprecedented steps to prevent economic meltdown. I think in such a scenario Canadians would rally behind him and consent to COVID-like economic supports among other things, even WWII style policies around prices controls, taxes and so on, depending on how bad things get. The other parties would also be forced to support him because it would look pretty bad if they stood against taking care of Canadians during an economic crisis.

[-] Tramort@programming.dev 9 points 3 months ago

What a pussy

Trump has no cards and desperately needs this

[-] SamuelRJankis@sh.itjust.works 7 points 3 months ago

If the resulting deal out of all this garbage isn't something decent I wonder if the Liberals last long enough for Pierre to be possibly ousted next January.

Although I suppose we could negotiate a deal then Trump could change his made 2-3 times before that as well.

[-] LostWon@lemmy.ca 4 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

It's up to us, since it seems more and more every day that Carney really can't be trusted. Either outright avoid US online services or do NO financial transactions and block all ads.

*edit - Also, I wonder how long it will take Trump's "Big Beautiful Bill" to properly bankrupt the US? I hope the US people can do something about him for their own sake, and ours.

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