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[-] GreenKnight23@lemmy.world 10 points 1 day ago

I kinda feel vindicated now. after the whole "dumbledore is gay" thing, I complained that it was bullshit and made absolutely zero sense.

the whole journey none of it came up once, nor did it progress his character arch at all. it was a bit of fluff that sold books.

it cheapened the struggles of being gay IMO and honestly makes more sense now than it did then considering what kind of a vile troll she is.

I thought it was fine in a "it didn't come up because it didn't and shouldn't have mattered" way.

[-] intheformbelow@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago

Overfixation on sexual identity issues is bad for trans people. Slow and steady progress is better than letting radicals steal the microphone. If you don't believe me, take a look at what Alberta and Saskatchewan are doing to trans rights. The only reason they are persecuting trans people is to spite the previous federal government whose performance was so lackluster that they resorted to identity politics slogans in order to appear "progressive". Trans people already have it tough. Using them as a banner instead of actually supporting them is going to make things even more difficult for them.

[-] Shayeta@feddit.org 7 points 1 day ago

Yup, the month has only begun but I've already bought a 2nd Order of the Phoenix to burn. Poetic, really.

[-] Whats_your_reasoning@lemmy.world 5 points 17 hours ago

I’ve already bought a 2nd Order of the Phoenix to burn

Weird, you should be able to burn the same copy over and over again. Just wait for the first one to reform from the ashes.

[-] jasoman@lemmy.world 7 points 1 day ago

You bought it used right? Don't give her sales.

[-] squaresinger@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

Pay her to burn her books. I'd guess she's fine with that deal.

[-] GuardYaGrill@sh.itjust.works 34 points 2 days ago

everyone's pretty much on board with burning Harry Potter books.

No they aren’t.

[-] mineralfellow@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago

The displays at pretty much every bookstore I have been to recently are pretty massive. And kids still like the stories. It is hard to argue against a small child who is begging to read a massive book, as opposed to a kid wanting to stare at a screen all day.

[-] ZephyrXero@lemmy.world 39 points 2 days ago

I don't want to burn the books, just strip Rowling of ownership so she doesn't profit off of them any further is all. Maybe put them in the public domain early

[-] crimsonpoodle@pawb.social 6 points 1 day ago

The problem with this is that if presumably the government had such power it wouldn’t just be used to silence hateful voices but also those who proclaim liberty and tolerance. The pendulum can only be given so much power when it swings both ways.

[-] Doc_Crankenstein@slrpnk.net 2 points 1 day ago

This is why we should just wholesale abandon the concept of intellectual property, which is simply an extension of the exploitative private property system.

[-] Samskara@sh.itjust.works 1 points 17 hours ago

How do artists get paid then?

[-] jasoman@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

I feel this when someone from the left asks for licenses to have kids. Like you know, that swings the other way more often than not.

[-] sxan@midwest.social 13 points 2 days ago

If wishes were horses, beggers would ride.

One of this things is within your power; the other, isn't.

That said, burning her books only benefits her. If you want you hurt her, find someone who wants to buy and read them, and give them yours.

[-] andros_rex@lemmy.world 58 points 2 days ago

Not really down with burning the books, just that Rowling is using money from the series to fund a campaign against trans people.

I’m not going to spend money that someone is going to use to turn around and attack my rights with.

Like, if I was in the UK - it would be illegal for me to piss basically anywhere. Trans women are supposed to use the men’s, but because trans men are autistic self hating lesbians (the kind of shitty propaganda that bitch funds) we don’t exist and can’t piss in the men’s or the women’s.

I’m not very opposed to the mediocre children’s book series for their content - it’s just typical “the status quo is good actually.” I’m not going to give money to people who are using their money to hurt me.

[-] garbagebagel@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

I wouldn't want to give any money to her but I also wouldn't be opposed to purchasing HP books from a thrift store that donates funds to charity and then burning them just for the sake of removing just a little bit of her legacy from the world.

[-] Fletcher@lemmy.today 29 points 2 days ago

When you reveal yourself to be a bigoted, hateful person, most evolved and compassionate people tend to dislike you.

[-] MossyFeathers@pawb.social 29 points 2 days ago

The setting is fun. The author is garbage. Also don't think too hard about the characters or the way different magical races are portrayed.

[-] Yermaw@lemm.ee 16 points 2 days ago

Yeah if you start analysing it and paying the slightest attention with -phobias in mind the whole thing starts looking at bit sus.

[-] Zahille7@lemmy.world 6 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

The first movie has a couple possibly problematic things ("you're supposed to be a good athlete, it's in your genes"), but I feel like a lot of it goes away the longer the movies continue.

[-] Melatonin@lemmy.dbzer0.com 15 points 2 days ago

When you pay the game you realize how few women and non-white characters there were.

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[-] TheDoozer@lemmy.world 16 points 2 days ago

I got threatened with a ban on Blahaj because I pointed out basically this when somebody posted a picture of a burning Harry Potter book. It wasn't even a criticism, it was just pointing out how funny life is that, for completely opposing reasons, trans people (and allies) and crazy Fundamentalists would both support what was happening in the picture.

The author (who was apparently a mod) made some comment about "hurr durr, mah both sides" and deleted my comment. It was very confusing, as my comment showed I clearly supported one of those sides (since I even referred to the Fundamentalists as crazy).

[-] Makeshift@sh.itjust.works 1 points 14 hours ago

Not surprised; Blahaj mods are pretty known for being ptb. Say one tiny thing they don't like and suddenly you're an [something]phobic bigot.

[-] pau_hana@feddit.org 3 points 1 day ago

Megan Phelps-Roper did a great podcast exploring the reasons behind the backlashes against Rowling. The Witch Trials of J. K. Rowling

[-] andros_rex@lemmy.world 14 points 2 days ago

The crazy fundamentalists support her now. It’s all over Facebook.

There’s a difference between burning a book as a political statement because the author is actively harming you, and having a meltdown because the book has magic in it.

It also makes me uncomfortable that you characterize this as “sides.” As a trans person, my “side” is that I deserve to live, have access to medical care, and be treated equitably. Treating this like it’s an issue with “sides” is fucked up - one “side” thinks that all trans people should be forced back into the closet or detransitioned against our will, the other “side” just wants to be fucking alive.

[-] TheDoozer@lemmy.world 11 points 2 days ago

Yeah, you're missing the point.

They (the mod who deleted it) mentioned "both sides." I said that two groups, for that one particular thing, both arrived at the "J.K. Rowling is bad" conclusion, and those two groups are fairly diametrically opposed. Not two sides, two separate groups.

My commentary on their "both sides" was that it was a weird take, since it's clear (if there were two sides) which "side" I was on.

The why, though, wasn't the issue, and I was attaching no commentary on their motivations (with the exception of calling the Fundeamentalists crazy, because, like... "magic is real and evil and a made-up story about a magical school promotes magic" is preeettttty crazy). It was purely the irony of seeing that post and realizing crazy Fundamentalists also hate Rowling. It's like that "two strong arms clasping together" meme, with two groups that have nothing (or worse) to do with each other having one particular thing in common.

And look, I get it. It is a touchy subject, and trans people have been getting shit on for too long (especially now) and assuming the worst intentions of comments made is probably correct way more often than it should be. But even the slightest read into anything I've said shows no ill-will against trans people and their allies (and lots against crazy Fundamentalists who believe in magic).

[-] AllNewTypeFace@leminal.space 15 points 2 days ago

Not enough people. You still see people talking about it, citing their Hogwarts houses, playing the games, squeeing about news of the TV show snd so on as if nothing was amiss, and dismissing any concerns about the profits going to persecute trans people as some kind of weird Peta-tier puritanism. It’s still considered acceptable in the mainstream to be into HP and be accepted as a good person.

[-] traceur301 4 points 1 day ago

Yeah seriously, I'm not sure I've seen any anti HP sentiment in years except from people directly affected. And references just keep cropping up everywhere

[-] riskable@programming.dev 16 points 2 days ago

"It's the work of the devil!"

Maybe they were right all along. 🤔

[-] Almacca@aussie.zone 6 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

In order to burn her books, you first have to purchase them, and at that point you've defeated your own purpose.

[-] A1kmm@lemmy.amxl.com 5 points 1 day ago

Yep - I think the best strategy is what Richard Stallman suggested in 2005 - don't give her money under any circumstances.

I'd suggest not giving the works any form of oxygen; definitely don't buy the books or watch the movies for money, including on a streaming site that pays royalties, or buy branded merchandise. But also don't borrow them from a library (libraries use that as a signal to buy more), promote them by talking about them in any kind of positive light, don't encourage your kids dress up as a character (builds hype and creates demand), use analogies drawn from the books, or otherwise support them.

As far as books about wizards and educational institutions, Terry Pratchett's Discworld series is way better anyway - they have more realistic character interactions and social dynamics (despite being a comic fantasy), and it makes for a much better read.

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[-] spittingimage@lemmy.world 6 points 2 days ago

And it's not like the books changed. Just the people reading them.

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