This becoming the next faux-outrage, Republican/conservative wedge issue in...3...2...1.
They’re coming fer yer gas lawnmower!
Like the police will come round and take them.
well, pretty sure ICE has rounded up many a white person's lawnmower.
Oof.
Counties near me already banned two-stroke engines. Gas leaf blower ban is on the books for a month or so from now.
Good, they aren't needed anymore since electric ones do the same job.
The amount of people I hear discussing their surprise satisfaction with electronic tools is pretty astounding, even coming from electrical engineers and similar. The skepticism and doubt, propaganda from Big Combustion is real 🤠
I’m not sure if it was intentional or if brushless motors are really that much more powerful but electric tools are far better now than they were even just 10 years ago.
Battery pack improvements have to be right up there with why electric have gotten so much better now.
The new tabless batteries in particular are a good step forward even with older tools. And they are last 18 months or less depending on your tool colour of choice.
Really big tools like most landscaping or concrete tools that use the really big batteries (think back pack batteries) have an insane amount of watts they can push out.
I never used petrol tools but I did use mains tools a lot due to the extra power but now 240v is often lower than the top battery tools now.
Playing devil's advocate here (I use a battery one that's lasted almost 15 years and works fine on modern Lithium instead of NiCad - Black & Decker came with a weedwhacker too). Electric is fine as a single home consumer, but not for working crews. Modern Li batteries last pretty long for a single user doing basic tasks. (The real racket is in weedwhacker spools, they're like $10ea now. I digress.)
I live in the deep south of Texas (the muggy, humid greenish part not the desert) - it's very common to have "working crews" of lawn maintenance out and about all the time. Generally speaking they just drive a truck + trailer full of gear around and look for opportunities. More common than an ice cream truck or FedEx driver after a flood rain like we get, get a deal for $20 fast & clean.
These working crews use gas powered gear simply because electric cannot keep up with the duration and use patterns required by their team without investing in a lot of batteries ($$) and a way to recharge them on the go (generator == gasoline, maybe natural gas if lucky). I haven't looked into the CA ban from this article to find out if they've carved out an exception or not for working crews, licensed or not.
Regarding the linked Texas law - read it, it actually prohibits any local (non state, non Fed) municipality from banning any device based on it's power source. This includes.... surprise.... solar panels on your roof! There are communities who think they're "ugly" and ban solar roof panels, it's real. The law does not prohibit any ordinances or regulation therein of said energy source (for example noise laws, quiet time laws, etc.) but they cannot supersede state/federal laws. This article flippantly wants you to believe it was enacted just to preserve gas lawn blowers using lazy wordsmithing for clicks.
A landscaping crew would require more batteries and/or a method to charge on the go. Cost might be prohibitive to do that now but in time it might work out. Imagine if you have a large battery in a trailer that charges up all the small batteries between sites or solar on the roof.
Considering most landscaping work is done in the summer months maybe a move to a different Lithium chemistry that is cheaper but doesn’t like cold as much could be beneficial for pro tools.
Cost might be prohibitive to do that now but in time
I was being subtle in addressing this, but it's spot on - the lawn maintenance working crews in question are all folks out trying to hustle and earn a living, these are not "outfits" with disposable income to invest in the electric future. Quite often the gear is bought/sold in pawn shops all over town, tools are probably the #1 item in any given pawn shop around here (followed by the usual jewelry, guns, etc disposable income items).
Tangent: I lived in CA (SF) for ~18yrs and recognize a lot of the names of the cities and what they're generally like. "Rich", "white" (light-skinned any race/culture), "affluent" are the words that came to mind. I dare say that many of these enacted bans are based on "those brown folks making too much noise in my pretty neighborhood." $0.02
I have an even more effective proposal that can run for centuries with minimal repair and does just as good a job on fuel that is practically free.
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As a homeowner, sure. However, if I had a landscaping business, I would need something that can run all day.
Carpenters do just fine all day with electric tools. Replaceable batteries are a thing!
You underestimate just how big and heavy of a battery you would need to power a leaf blower all day. Gasoline has 50-80x more energy density than a lithium battery.
I suppose you could bring a bank of smaller batteries with you and swap them out throughout the day, but that means another piece of equipment to lug around, and climate control becomes an issue if you live in a hot climate. Batteries and heat are not a good combo for safety and reliability.
This all sounds like FUD to me. You might as easily complain about how much harder it is to refill the gas tank than swap the batteries a few times.
Lithium Ion batteries generally have a maximum optimal operating temperature of 122°F but will operate up to 176°F. If the temperature is approaching 176°F, I think the human will be the first thing to fail.
Also, nobody needs to lug around a full day of power. Spare batteries can stay in the truck until needed, at most you would have one spare on your person.
need to power a leaf blower all day
That's the magic thing in the word "replaceable". They are, you know, can be replaced. While you use one, the other is charging, and then you replace them. Just like, you know, construction workers are doing for the last at least three decades.
Use a rake?
Using a rake for 12-14 hour shifts, 5-6 days a week in the summer sun? Get real, my dude.
What a creative way to tell me you've never worked a day of physical labor in your life, without telling me you've never works a day of physical labor in your life. Raking leaves by hand all day every day would absolutely destroy your shoulders and forearms.
And it's a thing with batteries on your back. Cities around here have these and it works well.
I have come to love gas powered leaf blowers this past month. There really is nothing better for trail maintenance. If you have to clear a couple miles of trail a gas powered leaf blower makes it a literal walk in the park. Electric ones just don't have the kind of power that the backpack ones do and run out of battery too quickly. Or you have to rake the whole thing by hand which could take a day or two.
That being said in some areas you're not allowed to use a leaf blower (electric or gas).
This supports my stance for the electric vs gas argument. Which basically boils down to use the right tool for the job. Is using an electric blower the correct tool to clear miles of trials, not really. Use gas. Does that Amazon delivery vehicle running stop and go all day need to be gas, no. Use electric. It’s not hard.
For those ev vans specifically they are better but they have some issues with sandy roads in rural areas because they're so heavy.
Literally exactly what this person just said is the advice I give to you: use the correct tool for the job.
Not exactly. Evs will be drastically cheaper to operate so they will try to use them as much as possible. The owners will push them and the drivers will try to avoid them when they have difficulty. Amazon doesn't like having variants, they prefer to have uniform vehicles that are identical. The point is that the people doing it don't have any choice in selecting the right tool and the people who do only look at spreadsheets.
While I disagree on the power (try the Ego commercial backpack leaf blower), the battery life is no question. People don't realize how much energy it takes to blow that much air that quickly.
I love that you suggested something actually professional, but please don't kid yourself, at 56V you're not going to get anywhere near a 2-stroke/4-stoke or even household AC current.
I do an absolute shitload of electronics repair, and I need people to understand that you cannot ever get close to other solutions with battery power. There are many complex reasons, but the basic answer is: forget it.
How much current you get is just related to how much current the cells, wiring, and connectors can handle.
It's very easy to get 2HP or 1500W from a 56V battery, that's only about 27A which is very little and works through small 12AWG wire. Most lawn care 2 strokes are around 1-2HP anyways.
The run-time is a different story though, when you only have something like a 400Wh battery, drawing 1500W is going to last about 15 minutes.
Maybe I'll give it a try when it makes sense to buy a new one. For now the Stihl is still chooching
100% agree. My old man's Stihl will probably last longer than I do.
I haven't seen a comparable backpack electric blower, but for my backyard the one I got is more than enough and I have a lot of overhanging trees.
Things are progressing quickly though, soon enough you should be able to get one for your needs. Also the lower noose level is nice.
Got rid of my gas weed trimmer 3 years ago. I’ll never go back. I got a good quality electric. It has enough power to do all the necessary yard work 2x over on a charge. It doesn’t get bogged down. I don’t have to mix two stroke fuel. I don’t have to clean the fuel system after not using it for the winter or store gas over the off season. No worries about spills. Just swap out the batteries and go.
Blowers have suffered from insufficient power when battery operated. Maybe that’s changed. I’d love an electric mower, but they’re crazy expensive for a decent one.
I love my electric mower. I can do my yard *2 on a battery charge. Worth. Also yes it was like 600$ CAD but no more hassles like you mentioned. Peace of mind is a thing AND it's better for the environment.
My 40v leaf blower is better than a gas blower, because it's just as strong as one and doesn't use gas or oil at all. Also lighter weight and no maintenance. But if you tried an 18v or 20v leaf blower it might not favor as well.
Electric leafblowers should do a better Job than Gas powered. Linear motors are just better. That's why basically any EV let's Gas powered cars behind at traffic lights.
A lot of lumberjacks use electric saws more and more.
The downside obviously is that you cant just refill it on the spot.
My 38v pushes leaves and rubbish around well enough in my eyes. It does chew through the batteries however, which ended up tipping one pack unable to charge without manual intervention.
Same batteries go in my electric mower, I can mow my backyard on a single cell if I don't leave it too infrequent between.
If you don't mind a little more effort, a manual lawn mower is fantastic! Plus it's incredibly quiet
My neighbor has a manual mower. Its so cute! I wanna mow the lawn just so I can push it! Also, it doesn't hurt to push (I'm so old haha)!
Leaf blowers in general need to be banned. They cause too much soil erosion.
Glad I just got one from a yard sale. I don't really have a use for it, just fixed it and think it is nice to stand in my front yard at the beginning and end of each day (within the legal noise ordinance) revving it up and blowing nothing. Just for my neighbours.
Leaf blowers - converting gasoline into neighbourhood disharmony since 1955
the number of people who deliberately use those things just to annoy everyone is ridiculous
Fuck yes about time
The scythe returns...
A number of states and cities are banning gas-powered leaf blowers due to pollution, noise and health risk concerns.
🧐 Cars are next, right? Riiiight????
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