The biggest hurdle for this movie โ and any non-franchise movie for the foreseeable future โ is getting people to care about something that isn't based on something they're already familiar with.
from https://www.slashfilm.com/1807986/mickey-17-flopped-box-office-reasons/
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I mean, I don't think people take in account the role of Hollywood and the imperialist pig dog empire of Yankee land. Hollywood serves a purpose for the imperialist. They push around the artist and tell them to dance for pennies. And everybody's on the casting couch getting fondled by rich men. We live in the world of the lowest common denominator, and as time progresses and the Empire decays, the movies will just turn to shit. These submissive libturds and right wing pigglet Yankees will just keep buying this crap and their children each generation, each iteration will become dumber and dumber Not aware that they are becoming dumber. Most of anything in our society is low-effort slop for premium price. Yankee Land hates art and artist. I do welcome this era though, because for me avoiding subscription services is like walking and chewing gum or shall we say, just taking a shit. It has become a natural process for me. Also, I'm not as distracted as I used to be and so, most of my time is filled with learning new skills. I mean, they should put more effort into movies. That was the whole point. It was to distract us from the horrors of the American reality. I truly do welcome their use of AI in movies. I am an accelerationist in this avenue. Keep on going, bud. See what happens. It is all just slop, absolute slop and I have no intentions of spending money with these people. It has gotten so fucking bad that I dont even pirate anything. Like sitting down with a piece of paper and a pencil drawing is more titillating than going to the cinema. Also, Linux fulfills all of my needs. Why would I ever pay for an operating system that acts like spyware. It's kind of like an indicator telling us that Yankee Land is desperate and running out of tricks funds. Now Yankee Land, I think is somewhat aware of this. And so that's why they're coming for open source. There are angels out there. People that are just doing the good work, you know? It's so easy to just stop watching movies. And, you know, I don't want to think I'm just like a boomer or what not but the movies from back in the day are way better. Hollywood also served the purpose of framing or giving this perception of what American life is like. But now that the veil's been removed and we're like in a depression era and the rest of world sees us as a violent entity, who is a threat to all of humanity... it seems nobody's interested anymore. Like, if you're around a bunch of dildos and you're saying to them, hey, you're getting fucked and they say, well, you're paranoid tinfoil hat, man.... What I'm really trying to say is I'm just excited. I like seeing things fall apart that should fall apart. And what is Hollywood's response? Streaming. Give me a break. Even streaming is terrible. It's so easy and I mean so easy for a refined person who is sophisticated, who desires quality to avoid American propaganda. Anyways, I'm just glad. I'm actually am glad. It's a good thing. It's a very good, very good thing. Death to the Empire. Also, one more thing. I think we fail to recognize the very, very close relationship between the department of defense and Hollywood. Like, even in the military, they have subscription services. We've privatized all of our intellectual property. So, the government doesn't even really own the military equipment. And we're just getting milked, baby. I mean just look at the F 35. It's a piece of shit. Also, you know, the Yankee swung Dick and bullied Europe into increasing its defense spending. Europe was like, okay, and then America was like, now you have to buy my F-35 and they were like, nah, we don't want that subscription shit. I mean everything that these business turdz and soldier boyz do is just coming back to fuck them. I mean, if you've had your ear on the ground long enough and you watch the patterns, it's funny seeing these people look stupid and fail. It's happening. It really is and they're fucking up in all avenues. It's just so goddamn easy to not buy slop. I could stare at the wall and be more entertained. I'm of the persuasion of you just don't have kids, you know. My line is choosing to exit out of existence and I smile at the thought of the American Empire ripping itself apart. My hatred of imperialism is so great. It's so great. 24-7. All day, every day. Every moment that has led up to this to now has been a waste of time. This was always the precipice that we were all going to find ourselves in if you're not a stupid monster. Living in the process is cruel, but what are you gonna do? There won't be angels, I'll tell you that. But there won't be dumb shit either. I embrace the abyss. I lean into it. I dive into it. Head Over Heels. I'd giggle thinking about the Democrat Party. Or Wokeism. Which is basically the establishment co-opting the left-wing people's movements and filling their brains with nonsense getting them distracted with low-level priorities instead of focusing on the fiscal realities of our current situation. America was never a democracy. And what little protections we had are gone now. America is like Disneyland with a mixture of North Korea where you are not allowed to leave and you forgot your wallet. It's a small world after all. It's a small world after all. When you wish upon a star, it makes a difference who you are. Because when you wish upon a star, you're talking to the sky.
Also, 20 minute "trailers" before the actual movie.
I remember when trailer were a big deal. People went to see a movie they didn't care for just for the trailer. I haven't watched a trailer for like 15 years and it's nice when they don't tell you the whole movie before you saw it.
When I was a kid in the 90s, the 70s were in vogue and if you wanted to be retro it meant the 70s. That 70s Show for example, plus N-Trance doing all those old disco remixes, plus Dazed and Confused, plus Almost Famous, plus the disco songs in The Full Monty, etc.
And in the 70s, retro chic meant the 50s, what with Grease and American Graffiti (which was actually set in 1962 but was still about the 50s aesthetic) and Happy Days etc. So it seemed like "retro" meant "20 years ago".
How, in 25 years, have we only advanced to the 80s for retro chic? Shouldn't we be on the 90s by now at least, if not the 00s?
PS: perhaps this is indicative of a reduction in cultural influence, today, for the 20-to-30-something demographic, compared to the cultural influence that demographic had in earlier decades. Quentin Tarantino was 29 when he made Reservoir Dogs so he made a movie steeped in 70s vibes. Because in the 90s that age range was where revolutionary thinkers were expected to come from, so naturally the decade of their childhoods, the 70s, was in vogue. Do today's 29-year-olds have the same platform and opportunities?
Movies in the '90s were more varied, but then after 9/11 and the "war on terror" it seems that there was an intentional focus on superheroes fighting the bad guys, don't know about the '80s.
Probably, but CGI maturing and becoming cheaper may have played a larger role.
Probably not a coincidence that most Golden Age superheroes were created around the beginning of WWII:
Superman 1938
Batman 1939
Captain Marvel/Shazam 1939
The Human Torch 1939
Namor the Sub-Mariner 1939
The Flash 1939
Captain America 1940
Green Lantern 1940
Wonder Woman 1941
Why spend time and money making new things when tried and true stuff sells just as well?
Welcome to capitalism, where art goes to die.
But someone said capitalism fostered innovation!?
nah, only if some rich guy can use it to extract money from as many people as possible.
it can, but requires strong regulation to do so. We don't have that these days.
The best stuff at a cinema is rarely plastered all over the front, that's just advertising for people who don't really care about movies.
Also if your area is like mine, look for the smaller cinemas that screen the new oddities and forgotten classics
Depends on your town. I live in a small tourist town with one cinema and they only play the biggest hits, focusing on the lowest common denominator. I mean, I'm not even sure they screened Sinners, but they definitely played The Minecraft Movie in 4 (out of 14) theaters for months. If I want to go to a different cinema, I have to drive 45 minutes to get to the next town (where the selection still sucks, but at least they've got more screens) or 75 min to get to the closest independent theater.
That's a cinema.
It's also a movie theater, and it's not uncommon to omit the "movie" part since they're more common.
Yeah, e.g. I stopped paying attention to spider man movies for a few years, but the other day I was doing a recap and found that there is a movie with actors/characters from 3 different versions/reboots with the multiverse excuse...this is some dystopian shit.
I know that comics always had heavy intertext and "guest characters", but having the scriptwriting be driven by stupid circumstantial corporate decisions to buy IP rights to a specific character and then have to restart it multiple times to keep the rights going feels...dystopian?
(but I'll be thankful if you have any better words than dystopian to describe this bullshit, gpt suggests "soulless" ๐).
Dune messiah a franchise exploit? How?
It's based on the next book in the series. There is a reason for it to exist beyond making money.
anyone who was in for the love of the art already read the books.
Meaning what, that movie adaptations are not necessary? I know that.
The posted list put Dune in with movies that were made based purely on the success of their predecessor, which is not the case for Dune.
Now, while the sequel wouldn't have been made if its predecessor hadn't been successful, the books are the driver behind making the movies.
And the Talking Animals will either be the best option or the worst option
This is a lazy meme, I've seen dozens of original movies both foreign and domestic in the last few months, people don't want to go to the theatre for anything other than IP blockbusters and then complain that IP blockbusters keep getting made, change your habits first
And coming soon! The one midnight showing of the indie movie everyone secretly wants to watch.
This is just so inaccurate. Sometimes it's 90's reboots and remakes with talking animals, too.
And now, Disneys latest innovation: Live action(ish) reboots with talking animals!
They still have a few the low budget horror films and originals by Soderberg but no one watches them even when they are really good. I go every week and don't watch any remakes and maybe the occasional superhero flick when it reviews well. There are maybe 9 people in the theater.
It's so annoying to see this shit. Every person who complains about how stale movie releases are only ever goes to see what the ads on tv/youtube tell them to, then whine about their own choice while excellent indie movies eke by or fail outright. They reinforce the problem they complain about with zero sense of hypocrisy.
It's like when games fail and people complain there is no originality
Dude you ain't buying the original games, you are buying the tried and trusted versions
Well with new Jurassic park/world stuff coming out, there's 90s stuff going on, too.
It's one film. Howard the Duck.
Iโm looking forward to the coming superhero universe reboot - now with fun CGI animal.
Made with AI
They're doing 90s and post 2000s remakes now . See Lilo and Stitch and How to Train your Dragon remakes with 3d and live action incorporated that nobody asked for. I think originality in film and tv is also disappearing, along with many other things heading towards extinction these days
Originality is uncertainty, and shareholders donโt like uncertainty. Better to spend the money on certain failures instead.
The are movies like Never look away(2018), Amanda(2018), Empire of Light(2022) and Perfect Days (2023) that where barely advertised, but worth watching all the way. Still somehow using an old movie or having more super hero is ok.
Why would that be?
Oh, right.
Never even saw an ad for it but, then again, who watches ads anymore? Good reviews? Can't trust them, most are bots nowadays.
Just as well, people are so broke they don't want to risk spending money on something they don't know when they can watch a remake of a story they know they enjoy or just don't have money to even go to the movies at all.
Gotta love that capitalist innovation and the "invisible hand if the market" at work.
My favourite thing about movies is that a movie that makes 10million dollars is a flop. It could make 100millions and now we're sad and can only afford to make a cheap remake
Superhero sequel 29 looks pretty good this year!
The Phoenician Scheme was fairly original.
Wes Anderson movies are both original and not at all original. The stories are original, but the style is always the same. That said, I love his style, but recently his movies have almost parodies of themselves. I haven't enjoyed his latest stuff.
Best thing is that internet and technology development has brought us masterpieces like this:
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