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A University of Florida student won an academic honor after he argued in a school paper that the Constitution applies only to white people. The student also made statements against Jews.

The granting of the award set off months of turmoil on the law school campus.

https://www.nytimes.com/2025/06/21/us/white-supremacist-university-of-florida-paper.html

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[-] chicken@lemmy.dbzer0.com 44 points 5 days ago

“It’s just that — neutrality,” she added. “The government — in this case, our public university — stays out of picking sides, so that, through the marketplace of ideas, you can debate and arrive at truth for yourself and for the community.”

Some at the law school agree with her stance. In an interview, John F. Stinneford, a professor at the university, said that it would be “academic misconduct” for a law professor who opposed abortion to give a lower grade to a well-argued paper advocating abortion rights.

This makes sense to me as a principle, but the idea that the paper is genuinely making a good argument seems really questionable.

Among originalists, though, this interpretation [apparently that “We the People,” refers to white people, and therefore the constitution applies to them exclusively] has been widely rejected. Instead, conservatives have argued that much of the text of the Constitution “tilts toward liberty” for all, said Jonathan Gienapp, an associate professor of history and law at Stanford. They also note that the post-Civil War amendments guaranteeing rights to nonwhite people “washed away whatever racial taint” there was in the original document.

Sounds like not even other originalists take it seriously. On its face the idea seems really stupid, since the wording of that part of the constitution doesn't involve race, and whiteness has always been a very loosely defined concept with a lot of ambiguity that wouldn't be a natural fit for a legal principle. So maybe the paper is getting a high grade and an award is itself a display of personal bias.

[-] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 6 points 5 days ago

It is Florida after all

[-] raynethackery@lemmy.world 5 points 5 days ago

through the marketplace of ideas

Some ideas need to be removed from the marketplace.

[-] chicken@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 5 days ago

Ms. Chatman was struck, in part, by her own experiences at the school in contrast to Mr. Damsky’s award. She had proposed teaching a class during her time there called “Race, Entrepreneurship and Inequality.” But administrators at the law school changed the name to “Entrepreneurship,” she said, before listing it in the course catalog.

She attributed the change to Florida lawmakers’ crackdown on diversity-oriented language and themes in public education, a push that preceded the Trump administration’s broader war on progressive ideology.

Sounds like the college agrees, though maybe not about which ones

[-] irelephant@lemmy.dbzer0.com 12 points 5 days ago

Florida

ah.

Preston Damsky is the name of the Nazi.

He is an anti American Nazi advocating for the summary murder of people who are not white.

Preston Damsky is the name of the Nazi.

[-] 000@lemmy.dbzer0.com 15 points 5 days ago

Ah okay. So only white people should pay taxes then, yeah?

[-] FerretyFever0@fedia.io 13 points 6 days ago

"I'm not like an ax murderer or anything." No, you're worse. You might face consequences if you kill a couple of racial minorities in that manner. Instead, you're going to try and kill or ruin the lives of all racial minorities in this country. My race, being white people, stole and murdered to get this land. That doesn't make it ours. To pretend that it is, even worse, that it's wrong for people to peacefully come here doing none of the things of our ancestors, is unbelievably wrong. The fact that are grown ass men that haven't developed basic empathy or moral compasses, baffles me.

[-] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 2 points 5 days ago

Trade offs, I suppose. I don't think people should be beholden to what there ancestors did. You can't change the past but you can make the future. Let's be good ancestors.

Being white doesn't make you racist.

[-] FerretyFever0@fedia.io 1 points 5 days ago

I didn't say that. But this man is proud of all the genocide and human rights infringements. That's like a 9.5/10 on the racism scale. There's standing by and doing nothing, as much of America (and the world) does. There's trying to fight for equality. Then there's making a conscious decision to fight for your group to be on the top. That last one is fucked up in every fight it's involved in. The KKK, the NOI, JK Rowling, Neo-Nazis, the Heritage Foundation. Tgis guy went out of his way to purposefully try and hurt others, seemingly without remorse. It's not being white that's racist. It's all the racism he's actively doing.

[-] slaacaa@lemmy.world 8 points 5 days ago
[-] ParadoxSeahorse@lemmy.world 5 points 5 days ago

I hadn’t heard of Nazi White Supremacist Preston Damsky, but having read this article and his University of Florida paper, it seems like Racist Nazi Preston Damsky has racist nazi white supremacist views which he masks and deflects from in his University of Florida paper in a typical lazy nazi racist white supremacist fashion. It’s shameful that the University of Florida supports this white supremacist racist nazi.

[-] dastanktal@lemmy.ml 8 points 6 days ago

Yeah but if there Jewish suddenly we need to be considerate. Fucking racist pricks.

[-] serenissi@lemmy.world 7 points 6 days ago

Where is the paper?

If this is indeed a high quality legal paper then it'll highlight the weaknesses in the legal foundation of us which enables such positions. If it legally possible, somebody will do it.

[-] PattyMcB@lemmy.world 6 points 6 days ago

Every lawyer I've ever interacted with has been a total piece of feces

[-] Tujio@lemmy.world 10 points 6 days ago

I studied law in college. I interned in a high- powered legal defense office. I've met countless lawyers over the years. There are many, MANY wonderful lawyers out there working incredibly hard to better the world and protect disenfranchised people.

[-] PattyMcB@lemmy.world 2 points 5 days ago

I only said I have never met a lawyer who is a good person. I'm glad you have

[-] jjjalljs@ttrpg.network 6 points 6 days ago

I know a public defender who's pretty good.

[-] PattyMcB@lemmy.world 1 points 5 days ago

Good for you. Anyone involved with family law in Georgia (the state in the US) seems to be garbage

[-] salacious_coaster@infosec.pub 6 points 6 days ago

The profession tends to select for sociopathy.

[-] rikudou@lemmings.world 1 points 6 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

Sociopathy doesn't exist, psychology does not know such diagnosis.

Edit: I guess y'all really want to continue spreading cool sounding words and staying ignorant.

[-] salacious_coaster@infosec.pub 3 points 6 days ago

I bet you're a blast at parties.

[-] rikudou@lemmings.world 1 points 5 days ago
[-] PattyMcB@lemmy.world 1 points 5 days ago
[-] rikudou@lemmings.world 2 points 5 days ago

Nah, my partner is a psychologist.

[-] Gammelfisch@lemmy.world 2 points 5 days ago

Not surprised by the red run Deregulated Florida Oblast.

[-] lechekaflan@lemmy.world 1 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

Fluffy, wordy way of him saying he's an asshole and wants to destroy anyone who's not white.

Spain helped put clothes on the backs and guns in thehands of the soilders to ensure they won the revolution against the British. While John Adams grabbed much of his influence on the laws being created from Spanish influence. Things like Taxation without representation Adams and Locke directly source the Spanish. "Life Liberty and Property".. was sourced from Spanish rightings/law.

Throw in that Spain owned what became the Louisiana Purchase from 1762 to 1801 (in which the American Revolution occurred) I doubt they were looked upon as not people. France, Spain, American Revolutionaries vs Great Britain was the over arcing war at the time.

We only bought it from France because it was traded right before back to France for Tuscany, a treaty with Napoleon where the king of Spain wanted to give Tuscany to his daughter.

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