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It's choice vs force.
I like that on Linux I can install the updates and know that the ones that require a restart will just be ready the next time I restart at my leisure. And if I don't feel like restarting right away, it won't nag me about it and maybe just restart on its own if it decides I've put it off for too long.
And I can't believe my previous "solution" to that was to give ms even more money for win 10 pro (to get access to the paywalled settings) only to still feel like ms thought it was their computer that they allowed me to use.
And soon(tm) we'll have wayland session restore when we do restart!
never really got the point of that kind of stuff but looking at the demand I'm glad its getting added (eventually) since everyone else clearly wants it.
exactly my thoughts. I'm in control here but it also does stuff the way that makes sense on its own whenever I dont mess with it.
At least this is still you choosing when to update
yeah, I just thought it was funny that ive been checking literally daily since I switched to Linux.
If you want you can setup automatic updates in kde settings. They will always stay out of your way and download in the background. They will install if you chose to click "update and shutdown" next time you shutdown or restart your computer.
i have it set up like that but I'm really impatient
I just want my software to leave me the fuck alone and update automatically. Why is this so difficult?
There's probably an option in your distro to automatically install updates, but it's annoying when that happens when you're in the middle of something or if they require restarts
As much as I hate to praise Windows, that's why they have "update and shut down" when there are updates available.
This is a thing in all KDE distros I know. Once Discover downloaded them, they will be installed on next shutdown / reboot.
Never seen it. And KDE nags me incessantly about updates.
You can change the update notification frequency somewhere in settings. Pretty sure you can disable it too.
The problem is not that it nags me, the problem is that it expects me to manually approve updates.
I believe there's a setting either in Discover (the KDE "app store") in the main plasma settings (somewhere in the "updates" section? That might be somewhere else, I don't remember) that will automatically install updates without you needing to approve them.
And there's also a setting that will wait to install them until the next boot. When I had that setting on, it only added maybe 10 seconds to my startup time when I needed to apply something like a kernel update.
There is. It doesn't do anything.
Have not gotten this feature to work on Fedora, seems nice if it would work automatically
yay --noconfirm && poweroff
I think you may have glossed over the "automatically" part.
Set up a cron job or systemd timer and have your computer suddenly powerdown.
Brother, I am not a programmer and do not know what any of these words mean, and am not interested in becoming one. I just want to use a computer. This is precisely why I can't use Linux.
You think you can't use Linux because you can't set up something to automatically install updates? Nah, don't worry about that. You really still can. You don't need to know what a cronjob is lol. (Just some commands that run on a schedule.)
You think you can't use Linux because you can't set up something to automatically install updates?
No, because doing anything in Linux is DIY in the terminal. I don't have time for that. I have a job already.
only enthusiast distros like arch are diy in any sense. you dont need the terminal for most things, what you need is to get the settings in discover set up for the thing you want it to do and if it doesn't worm reach out and get support. that guy talking about cronjobs is probably just familiar with the command line and forgot that that isn't normal.
you dont need the terminal for most things
No but you do need it for a lot of things.
what you need is to get the settings in discover set up for the thing you want it to do
There is a setting. It doesn't work.
if it doesn't worm reach out and get support
Do a search for "how to [literally anything] on Linux" and tell me it doesn't send you into the terminal.
TL;DR: make bug reports and look for support in the support channels, not google.
most often thats because it's much faster to do it in the terminal if you know how, or because the result is an old post from before graphical tools were as good as they are now.
also, a google search is not reaching out and getting support. post/send smth in the KDE communities on here or on the matrix (Foss discord, basically) channels for KDE or your distro, or on KDE discuss. people look at those often for the express purpose of helping with this stuff. maybe go to the KDE bug reporting site and report the bug, it'll probably be resolved in the next update.
there are graphical ways to do most of these things that work, you're just new and dont know where they are. there are people out there literally watching whenever they can to help people like you with issues like yours, you are looking in the wrong places. also, even though it can be avoided most of the time you are best off familiarizing yourself with the command line at least a little so you can troubleshoot quicker and better, just like every other operating system.
TL;DR: make bug reports and look for support in the support channels, not google.
No? I don't want to. I have no responsibility to. And even if I did, I'm sure this isn't the kind of discussion that's never been had before.
most often thats because it's much faster to do it in the terminal if you know how
I'm sure it is. I don't know how. And every time I try, I end up spending hours trying to figure it out, which is the opposite of fast. Put a button I can click and there's no need to go scowering the web looking for the exact correct combination of random characters to type in the black box.
post/send smth in the KDE communities on here or on the matrix
That's just takes even more time, and is often either ignored or berated for being so ignorant to ask the question in the first place or for not searching it first.
there are graphical ways to do most of these things that work, you're just new and dont know where they are.
There aren't. And even when there are, the support sites will send you into the terminal every time anyway.
even though it can be avoided most of the time you are best off familiarizing yourself with the command line at least a little so you can troubleshoot quicker and better
I don't want to do that. I don't know why it's so hard to understand that some people just want to use their PCs and not spend all their time trying to figure out how to make them do things that other computers can just figure out how to do by clicking buttons in a menu.
If I recall Windows correctly, a scheduled task.
I don't know what that is either.
Both cron jobs and scheduled tasks are ways of making a computer do something at a certain time and/or date automatically without any user input apart from the initial inputting of setting it up.
Thanks
Then how do you know that the magic spell I gave you doesn't do it "automatically"? Either you're lying and you actually a programmer, since we know you need to be a programmer to be able to read, or you somehow figured out how to read it without being one, but that would be crazy, absolutely crazy.
Anyway, if for some reason you need your system to decide when to update and reboot, there is an easily googlable setting for it, and if you just need to emulate window's "update and shutdown" button, I gave you it for my preferred Linux distribution, and it's not more complicated on all the other ones.
Because I know enough to know that commands don't run themselves.
Except from the cron job part. Which is exactly what that's for
I am not a programmer and do not know what any of these words mean
Well, "update and shutdown" button is a button, it also doesn't press itself. I hope you're being intentionally obtuse, at least this way someone is having fun
No, but the updates are downloaded automatically and the button is changed from "shut down" to "update and shut down" automatically. And I don't appreciate your unwarranted insinuations.
Kubuntu at least also has this option!
Theres an option in Fedora KDE but it has never worked for me for some reason…?
Same.
Restarting is good for a computer's health, right? I think my Kubuntu laptop is the only machine in my house that averages less than two weeks of uptime
My CachyOS (Arch) desktop gets rebooted somewhat often because it suggests I reboot after some upgrades. I guess it's kernel upgrades, but I'm not sure which do and don't trigger that recommendation. Nor do I really know how important it is lol.
yes, iirc the general advice is to restart like once a week. its not a huge deal if you wait a little longer (two is fine) its just a guideline.
But it's such an excitement!
Automatic updates don't give you the pleasure to see what changed and update and test new features out
When you run sid and update some times 7 times in a day 😁
@unknown1234_5 I want my software to be updated in the background but limited to using only 10% of any resource (bandwidth, CPU etc) while doing so.
I can always set it to automatic somehow, but I never saw those utilities offering a maximum download speed or CPU/Disk utilization setting in any distro.
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