I would say the US has an executive with aspirations to implement aspects of a fascist state. As long as millions of people are protesting in the streets, the courts are ruling against the executive on points of law and people are standing their ground it is still a long road for the executive to get where they want to go. If the country really was full fascist you would be totally fucked and being shipped with your family to a concentration camp for disloyalty to great leader right now.

Unlike some other countries where law enforcement and prisons might be state run on principle, the US has a history of privatizing such functions. They had the union busting Pinkerton thugs, for profit prisons and bounty hunters. A society that didn't cry out when the Pinkertons were busting the heads of working people or kids were being railroaded into for profit prison slavery shouldn't be surprised when thugs are clearing the streets of immigrants. That is just America sadly. That nastiness has always been there.

Are people in denial? It just seems like a commonly understood thing. I've talked to straight CNN consuming boomers and even they see it for what it is.

For the record I'm in Canada so maybe it's just hard to see from the inside.

Is it legal in the US to shoot people who are trying to kidnap you?

I mean, anyone can go around claiming to be law enforcement or ICE or whatever, but with no badge or ID, how are people supposed to know that this isn't a gang trying to trafic them?

For Texas at least, under penal code 9.31(a)(1-3) it’s presumed to be reasonable self defense to use force (it specifically does not mention what kind of force, but it is assumed that deadly force is included, I think) against a person who “was committing or attempting to commit aggravated kidnapping, murder, sexual assault, aggravated sexual assault, robbery, or aggravated robbery.”

Cracks me the fuck up the rest of the world thinks this now.

This has been the case since Bush passed Citizens United and it was even happening before that. RIP Rosenbergs.

Is your goal that we should just.. not say this is illegal? Not argue that it's not okay? Literally fold and accept fascism?

Because that seems to be the narrative you're pushing, which is the polar opposite of constructive in this situation.

Super weird and suspect that every thread seems to be full of people saying this is normal. That this is just how it is, that it's been going on forever, and that anyone who has an issue with it is being unrealistic. Really, really weird. Almost like they're cryptofascists.

HMMMMMMMM.

America supported the Nazis during World War II. It was all just a weaken Russia. And it's never really just one thing. You know, it's multiple things. The control structure feeds into itself many different ways. It's almost as if we live in and like a spider's web. Our sole existence on this planet is to support the control structure and that control structure is worse than fascism. Capitalism in crisis creates the populist movements, especially the "good old days types" To crawl out of their crevices and beat their chest, and basically be guided like a horse by the ruling class in order for us to tear ourselves apart in order for law and order to set in and the new standards to begin.. I mean we are one of the most subservient and cucked societies that's ever existed in human history. This will all become more apparent as the climate changes, and we all become climate refugees.I think liberals are becoming more radical and yet they don't realize that the majority of the real left wing in America has already viewed America as a fascist regime for a long time. Also, some of these liberal movements I think will be co-opted and kind of turned into fascist action. I mean liberals are honestly the number one reason why we have no progress in this country. They occupy the space that should be filled with people that understand the evils of capitalism. But we remember Nancy Pelosi talking about a free market economy, whatever the fuck that means. I mean that bitch is too busy counting her money and getting her hair done. To be more specific, America is an imperialist empire, and fascists are the useful idiots of empire. Yankees live in a vacuum. The libturds are always late to the party. I literally could of had kids. I was on the path and I chose not to because I knew too much. And so that's why I can say things so "negatively" and freely. I see the world as it is, not as I want it to be. My ear has been to the ground for a long time. I've read a lot, listen to a lot. I've seen a lot. There is no war but the class war i can guarantee that. Capitalism is a system of the lowest common denominator. It is reflexive based upon emotion and not needs. We won't solve our problems using this current economic system. Artificial intelligence is scary because it's stupid, not because it's actually capable of being accurate or helpful. And we literally feed into it. Without us, it does nothing. It needs data sets. It needs certain things. One of those things will be water. Just basic public utilities is gonna be shit and way out of reach for most people. There will be more homelessness and they'll just throw them in prison and make them work for free. They'll trick you in to taking out credit that you can't pay because they want to put you in jail. All these things have happened in history. It's just a lazy man's solution to a problem, especially when they just view you as cattle. The people at the top are by far the most cruel and unprincipled disgusting human beings that have ever existed in society. We live in an inversion. A world where evolution is an exponential decay function.

What may have been the largest organized protests in American history were just a few days back, the president has record-breakingly low approval, even his own party's talking heads are turning against him. If you're not going to be satisfied by anything short of armed uprising then at least be brave enough to say as much, but pretending that Americans just don't see anything wrong and aren't doing anything is an act of wilful and blatant ignorance.

There's gotta be ~~criminals~~ non-ICE who exploit this. Like it must be so easy now for ransomers to kidnap somebody.