Friendly reminder this is the average "stop banning mods" commenter.
Stop banning mods except the ones I disagree with.
80lv (3D industry news media) reports some digging on the company bought Nexus Mod. https://80.lv/articles/exclusive-nexus-mods-was-apparently-bought-by-a-shady-corporate-entity
Not exaxtly noteworthy info there though, it's just some no name, 6 month old, likely VC-funded company with zero transparency.
God damnit we just can't have nice things.
Guy worked on the site for 24 years. Think he deserves some nice things himself (like reclaiming his life)
He does deserve that, but I wish the single biggest modding hub on the internet and a load bearing pillar of an entire gaming culture wasn't sold off to an unnamed party with no transparency and only vague reassurances that "nothing will change".
What with the late stage capitalist society we're living in, I've been conditioned to think that good things being sold off rarely amounts to good things.
Let's hope this is one of the few exceptions.
Narrator: It wasn't.
At the very least the entity that bought it will not rely on donations and revenue from upgraded download speeds, so it will definitely enshittify further to some degree.
The problem is not capitalism, it's really us expecting shit to be free and rewarding good development and maintenance effort with thoughts and prayers.
The problem is not capitalism [...] it's really us expecting shit to be free
No, "we" are not the problem. "We" donated and participated (by making mods) and "we" are responsible for giving the site what value it had. If it had no value, then it couldn't have been sold.
Quit trying to blame the users for fuck's sake.
Capitalism created this expectation. That's how corpos operate. Capture the market then bleed it.
Dude I've been premium for years. First sign of betrayal that will change though
And I literately just started using them for Daggerfall. Really frustrating.
Welp. Almost all of the conversations I've read about this change have devolved into "hopefully the new owners don't enforce their political views."
They always say shit like "if you don't like a mod, don't use it," but they can't wrap their heads around the idea that if they can't tolerate the (ex-)site owner exercising his own moral beliefs, they can find a different platform.
Fun.
Pretty much all platforms do this. It’s not a bad thing to want a big and established uncensored platform
I'm sure all they're concerned about is censoring and it has nothing to do with anything else.
Spicy point of view that I don’t agree with, but you’re straw manning here.
I'm concerned about it but not for bad reasons. What stats do we have on the different reasons?
Sorting people with "I’m sure they’re all bigots" is a great way to avoid any debate, but very manipulative
No. What's very manipulative and a great way to avoid any debate is excusing bigotry under the guise of "not ALL of them". And yes, you're a bigot.
Edit: Here's my evidence of you being a bigot before you try to sealion your way out of this.
I just don’t believe that a mod that changes Voice 1 and Voice 2 to Women voice and Men voice is bigotry.
Wow massive bigotry right there. I should be banned for this, really.
You didn’t find anything better, really? Laughable
Nobody should be obliged to host bigotry. That's not "censorship" in a way that matters.
Oh yea of course they’re not, and I would say bigotry was not my aim with my comment. The company can do whatever the fuck they want and it’s probably better this way.
I do get that some people might want extreme free speech where nothing gets censored. It allows for other non conventional ideas to spread. For better, and for worse. Yea nowadays it’s often for worse but hey, there’s still a chance. All of this is really subjective.
I just don’t believe that a mod that changes Voice 1 and Voice 2 to Women voice and Men voice is bigotry. Removing pride flags in a game is… well it says a lot of the person, but it doesn’t harm anyone directly and it’s something you have to actively add to your game if you want it. There could be criticism of pride which can be valid as well but that’s beyond my point.
Having this kind of content hidden and with trigger warnings is still more or less doable depending on the content, and can allow for more expression than classical rules, and not only bad expression.
Shitty mods like Crack Life for half-life are super offensive but funny as hell if you take it with a grain of salt. Knowing that could be banned sucks.
But if their argument is that you can simply ignore mods you disagree with, then those individuals should stop brigading against and whining about, say, a mod that enables queer relationships. As their own arguments imply, they can simply ignore those mods.
They should really pick a side instead of cherrypicking what's convenient for them.
I would personally be for that
The offensive mods should be hidden by default or similar, with a trigger warning on the mod asking to move on if you don’t agree instead of crying in comments. Same for LGBT.. stuff, but we can show by default because it’s not offensive, but have a way to hide it so that those that hate social progress won’t cry as well
And there you go. A platform for everyone. You won’t agree with everyone, but you can make the experience tailored to what you want or don’t want to see
GOG's move into mod support seems pretty prescient now.
To add to the conversation, one of the two new owners has replied to some questions: https://www.nexusmods.com/news/15301?comment_id=155643499
Ooof. We need a new place now.
A new website will suffer the same fate eventually. The best solution I've seen is CKAN for kerbal space program mods. Each mod just hosts its own releases for free on github or wherever they like, and the whole mod index is just another github repo.
https://github.com/KSP-CKAN/CKAN?tab=readme-ov-file#whats-the-ckan
The problem with that it's not "wherever they like", it is github 99% of the time. It is easier to fix when github enshitifies completely, but it will still require fixing
If it works with any git platform, you have several alternatives + self hosting.
The chokepoint is the index, but if the mod repo is up and you have the url by some other way, it should work
They'll probably implement a daily/hourly download limit like MEGA does. So, for example, you can download 1000000000 small mods of some kbs, but the limit is 5 GB, so the mod bundle for big games is virtually limited to premium users.
They'll probably try to change the lifetime subscription(the biggest sin in capitalism, how do you make infinite money without doing nothing if people can buy subscription once?), making it useless compared to the premium premium subscription.
Paid mods I think are unlikely, why bother to make a change so unpopular? Milk this shit for a decade and press this button only when shit hits the fan.
Is a enshification process not so painful so the vast majority will not bother to look for alternatives.
In other words: We're doomed.
No mention of who it is even being sold to, so bizarre.
A big corpo comes in and offer you a life changing amount of money. Very few people can say no to that, myself included.
That's a big red flag. Good news would say something like "we're happy to announce a team of community ownership".
Oh this is sad news.
Let the enshitification begin.
sigh.
Oh no, this is never good. How long before they implement a required pay system?
They claimed they won't, but we'll have to see their actions https://www.nexusmods.com/news/15301?comment_id=155643499
Fuck em nexus has sucked for a while anyway, they started enshittification years ago.
Would it be possible to build a fediverse modding platform? What would that look like?
I guess you still have the issue of someone needing to pay for the huge number of downloads, most of which are going to come from users who make no other contributions to the site. Maybe you could combine a fedi site with torrents or something?
Yeah this is a perfect use case for torrents, could go a step further and keep track of a downloader's ratio to stop people leaching.
Sounds like people need to start taking their mods off of there quick.
Might be too late. They changed the policy a few years ago when they introduced mod packs. They didn't want entire packs to fail if one person pulled their mod, so total deletion was disabled.
Folks can still hide their mods and make new individual downloads impossible, but it's still there in the background.
(All this is from memory. I hope I'm wrong)
I've seen too many services go through enshittification, which is why I've always made backups of the mods I installed.
That said, that obviously scales poorly if you download a lot of mods or really massive mods.
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