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submitted 1 year ago by MicroWave@lemmy.world to c/news@lemmy.world

Earlier on Thursday, Rolling Stone published allegations from two current and 14 former employees, including production crew and writers, who requested anonymity out of fear of retaliation. Rolling Stone claimed they had approached an additional 80 current and former employees, but “not a single one agreed to speak on the record or had positive things to say about working on the Tonight Show”.

According to Rolling Stone’s report, multiple sources alleged Fallon had a history of “outbursts” and lashing out at staff when under pressure; that previous senior staff on the show had bullied and belittled them; and that guests’ dressing rooms were commonly known as “cry rooms”, where employees could go let out their stress.

Nine showrunners have worked on the Tonight Show since Fallon took over from Jay Leno in 2014; a much faster turnover than comparable late night shows like Late Night with Seth Meyers and The Late Show With Stephen Colbert.

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[-] Fisk400@feddit.nu 129 points 1 year ago

They should have given it to Conan when they had the chance but they keep insisting on giving it to soulless narcissists like Leno and Fallon.

[-] cmbabul@lemmy.world 110 points 1 year ago

This, Conan has always been infinitely funnier, and he still has employees that followed him from the Late Night show that seem to love working with him

[-] dbilitated@aussie.zone 9 points 1 year ago

so much love for Conan. I've only seen a few clips, I'll have to seek him out a bit.

ok I just watched this and he's actually great: https://youtu.be/FIHxrzOQtm0

[-] PapaStevesy@midwest.social 58 points 1 year ago

They did give it to Conan, then they gave it back to Jay. Like everything else wrong in my life, I blame the boomers.

[-] victron@programming.dev 18 points 1 year ago

Oooh yes, they did Conan sooo dirty during that clusterfuck.

[-] Microplasticbrain@lemm.ee 8 points 1 year ago

Fuckin boomers

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[-] Dkarma@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago

Unpopular opinion: Conan SUCKS and is not funny. His personal antics are downright cringey middle school level drek.

[-] Fisk400@feddit.nu 35 points 1 year ago

Yeah, not everyone like all types of humor. By actually having a personality and a distinct sense of humor he opens himself up to not being liked.

Unlike the charismatic black holes of Falcon and Leno that are just there and fills time until the inevitable heat death of the universe.

[-] theragu40@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago

At least Leno was an ok interviewer and (at least based on his post tonight shown life) seems not to be a dick.

Fallon is SUCH a bad interviewer, it is incredibly grating.

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[-] pulaskiwasright@lemmy.ml 76 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I’ve always gotten strong Ellen vibes from Fallon.

[-] glimse@lemmy.world 64 points 1 year ago

I never understood how this unfunny douchebag got famous. Are people really fans of him or was having him TWO shows purely a studio decision? He was never funny on SNL.

[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 37 points 1 year ago

I thought maybe it was just me, maybe I wasn't seeing something in 'slow jam the news' that was hilariously funny. But then he sucked up to Trump during the campaign in 2016 and I didn't give a fuck any more. Fuck him.

[-] glimse@lemmy.world 20 points 1 year ago

Jimmy Fallon is all that awkwardness of Nathan Fielder minus the intent or semblence of humor. He is the most boring, lame host I have ever seen on a show like this and I find him painful to watch.

[-] TheFriar@lemm.ee 16 points 1 year ago

Hence his prime spot. That’s why he’s famous. He’s milquetoast, he’s lowest common denominator, he’s white bread, he’s Big Bang Theory, hes Two and a Half Men, he’s a laugh track, he’s Jay Leno.

[-] glimse@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago

I haven't asked everyone I know or anything but I've yet to meet someone who I know likes Jimmy Fallon.

I think he's way, way, WAYYY worse than Leno, though. At least he leads a somewhat interesting life (albeit not interesting to me). Like I would be surprised to hear that Jimmy Fallon has any hobbies.

[-] TheFriar@lemm.ee 9 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I don’t know anyone who likes big bang theory. But it’s the most popular show (or at least it was at some point). But there are sort of…layers/circles in which different types of people remain. The “Big Bang Theory” types hang out together, talk on Facebook, still use Reddit and mainly just subscribe to r/aww and r/funny, they go out to eat at the olive garden after church…that type of thing. Then there are the non-BBT types, that find a suitable instance on Lemmy and discuss how it’s possible people like jimmy fallon lol

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[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 19 points 1 year ago

Totally. I said the same thing when someone posted a thread about his behavior yesterday. I got a real asshole sense from him.

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[-] CrunchyBoy@lemmy.world 65 points 1 year ago

"I'm sorry (this got out)."

[-] verysoft@kbin.social 60 points 1 year ago

Guy is fake af, never understood the appeal of him or his show.

[-] GONADS125@lemmy.world 23 points 1 year ago

Absolutely.. And his obnoxious fake laughs are straight up nauseating...

[-] BedInspector@lemmy.world 51 points 1 year ago

I feel vindicated for strongly disliking him since SNL. Deuche bag ruined every single skit he was in. Absolute amateur laughing in every skit. Every time.

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[-] the_q@lemmy.world 42 points 1 year ago

I'm to the point where I just assume if you're a celebrity you're probably a piece of shit.

[-] agent_flounder@lemmy.one 6 points 1 year ago

I think that's a very safe assumption based on all the examples we've seen.

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[-] cantstopthesignal@sh.itjust.works 30 points 1 year ago

Jimmy Fallon is a robot designed to laugh at people's jokes no matter how unfunny they are.

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[-] rustyfish@lemmy.world 29 points 1 year ago

Fallon is one of the least funny people on the planet. I am not joking. His shit keeps getting brought up on my YouTube feed and it is just utter crap.

The only time I had to laugh at something he was involved in, was when he made a crossover with John Oliver. Fallon obviously tried to advertise for Amazons Alexa, when Oliver suddenly asked Alexa about the working conditions in Amazon Warehouses. Fallon immediately shit himself.

[-] Cjwii@lemm.ee 25 points 1 year ago

Not trying to defend Jimmy Fallon, but is there a way to do a nightly television show for years on end that's healthy?

The constant demand to be fresh, funny, topical, appeal to advertisers, network execs and audience members. It's fucking insane how anyone can do it at all.

I'd imagine it takes it's toll on even the most level headed good people.

[-] MiltownClowns@lemmy.world 51 points 1 year ago

Most of the story might be construed as nothing but the show runner turn over raised red flags for me. Conan had the same show runner, Jeff Ross, for decades. Fallon can't keep a show runner for a year! On the Tonight Show! One of the most coveted show runner positions still left in Television. The fact that the most powerful people aside from fallon keep quietly leaving the show means to me that there is something rotten that they are all fleeing and keeping quite to protect their careers.

[-] pwalshj@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago

Conan seems to be well-regarded.

[-] lapbar@lemmy.world 24 points 1 year ago

This is hilarious if you’ve ever worked in Hollywood: An NBC spokesperson told the magazine: “As in any workplace, we have had employees raise issues; those have been investigated and action has been taken where appropriate. As is always the case, we encourage employees who feel they have experienced or observed behaviour inconsistent with our policies to report their concerns so that we may address them accordingly.”

[-] dogslayeggs@lemmy.world 23 points 1 year ago

report their concerns so that we may address them accordingly

Which means they will fire that person and make sure they never work in the industry again. That sounds like a cliche you hear in movies, but if you know people who work in Hollywood you know that it's a real thing.

[-] Saneless@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago

And we always tell them, you can be honest. Don't worry, we won't "retaliate"

But why the quotes?

Oh, just for emphasis that we absolutely will "not retaliate or fire you immediately and spread rumors about you"

[-] reddig33@lemmy.world 18 points 1 year ago

It’s suspicious that this has gone on for years, but the story is only being published now. Seems to have been common knowledge in Hollywood. Is it contract negotiation time? Did Fallon finally piss of the wrong person? Does NBC have someone already in mind to replace him?

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[-] _haha_oh_wow_@sh.itjust.works 16 points 1 year ago

Not surprised, never could stand that guy.

[-] Saneless@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago

I don't hate him. Don't like him. I never found him as funny as Jimmy Fallon did either

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[-] Yepthatsme@kbin.social 11 points 1 year ago

Jimmy Fallon? Isn’t that the failed Andy Samburg?

[-] pwalshj@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago

He cancelled a Norm MacDonald appearance on his show for saying that he put Rosanne Barr and Louie C.K. in touch because of their shared experience. Like, a therapy thing. Jimmy claimed that a female his staff cried and locked herself in an office b/c of that. At least we know what room it was and what they were really crying about.

[-] rouxdoo@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago

My only concern about all of this is that Fallon's Ben and Jerry's ice cream flavor is the best one! I can also groove on Colbert's but Fallon's is the best. Don't cancel Fallon's ice cream please!

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