Cross-posted from "Liberals right now..." by @return2ozma@lemmy.world in !politicalmemes@lemmy.world
Capitalism is violence. Having billionaires while people starve is violence. Denying healthcare while spending billions on military is violence. Supplying weapons or finances to states commiting genocide is violence.
Right now, if you are passive, you are complicit in immense amounts of violence.
Somehow this is lost on liberals. (Or alternatively they believe the once every 4 years elite propaganda contest [elections] or strongly worded petitions are the only effective ways of dissent).
Seriously! I don't understand why this is such a hard concept to grasp
Just because it's a passive or hidden violence, or done from a complete disregard of people, doesn't make it less violent towards the affected
It's like the whole thing of how "murder is bad but war is acceptable". Like, why is one perceived so different just because it's state sanctioned? It's considered abhorrent to talk about violently removing a war criminal from their position of harm. It's complete nonsense
But what if i get table scraps from the violence and so don't want to get rid of it because i like my treats?
Okay but uts not violence if i don't consider them people, or have to think for a second to assign accountability to a specific person.
Could be. Stopping working for the system, with massive strikes. There is nothing they fear more. But they will exercise violence first, have no doubt. They are the lords and masters of violence. With violence they have the upper hand. A difficult situation to manage.
History has shown us again and again that when capital feels threatened, it gets violent anyways. Look at how many strikes have been beaten down, shot or even bombed (look it up, the first plane-dropped bombs in the US were dropped on striking miners)
I dislike violence, and I don't think it's good strategy to start it (that's why I'm a syndicalist), but realistically, we should be ready for the reaction.
look it up, the first plane-dropped bombs in the US were dropped on striking miners
Lest we forget about the Black Wall Street massacre.
Fair enough. 1921 truly was a good year to bomb the american people, it would seem
God, the best year for bombing american civilians. 2025 is looking pretty promising though.
Actually might've been on black people getting money in oklahoma. I forget which was first.
Someone else linked that, the Tulsa massacre was indeed a couple of months earlier
Okay, months, i feel better not knowing it was sooner.
You need stockpiles of food, water and heat.
But yes, this is the way.
It won't be violent if the ruling class don't make it violent.
That is to say, it will be violent.
Easiest trick: Show two options, let people pick a side and then pitch them against each other.
The problem is complex enough that both options are hammers that won't help to repair a watch.
Most are just too afraid to say they're afraid, perhaps, which is a more understandable position.
lol
Please tell us which achievable violent action you would take that would work to change the system. Please be specific and tell me how this action would facilitate change.
Nice try, FBI!
lol
So you have no idea what violence you're advocating for, you just want someone to do it. Sounds like a project 2025 talking point to me. Either do your violence or stfu about it. Stop trying to undermine the resistance to Trump.
Yeah man, you're right. People should absolutely criminally implicate themselves online for you enjoyment. 'fuck outta here.
lol. you're a moron. fuck off.
Short of straight-out illegal actions there is a lot of civic disobedience that organized groups of people could do. In this day and age maybe it will be construed as illegal, but goes beyond the conventional notion of protest.
Avada Kedavra ain’t violence.
“murder is bad but war is acceptable”.
War isn't acceptable, that doesn't mean the other guy with plenty of guns isn't going to war with/at you.
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