Did the buttons really need renaming? It's not like options and share or + and - make any more sense
For the switch, plus and minus have a symbolic benefit of matching their position on the console itself when the joycons are detached. It's not significant enough to warrant the rename but it at least is more than just a rename.
I get being nostalgic for Start/Select but how does Options/Share not make more sense? The options button brings up a menu of options for most games and share allows you to share screenshots or video from the game. Whereas start did the same thing options does now which has nothing to do with the word Start and Select was sorta a catch all button for an action you only used occasionally, but was never used for selecting which was usually X but sometimes one of the other shapes.
Options I kinda get but it sounds dumb to me, would've been better as "menu" because it's not exclusively for options, also for pausing and other menus.
Share isn't what that button normally does at all in my mind, sure maybe PlayStation have it bound to that but normally it brings up an alternate menu to start that isn't the pause menu (like in Minecraft and overwatch it brings up player list/scoreboard as an example
A lot of games I believe use it for the map too
The traditional role of the Select button is actually handled via the D-pad in most games. It was the button you used to change your selection, not to actually select something (that would be done with Start.)
Of course, even in the NES era past the first couple of years menus could generally be navigated with the D-pad, so even then Select was pretty useless, which is probably why the Genesis didn't bother with it.
Start and Select for life. SNES was my first gamepad.
Brother
My nephew was so confused when I kept telling him to press "Select" when we played on a PS5.
You must teach the boy the old ways.
Yeah, same. I actually forget the name of the button, too, so when I give someone the controller so they can play and they ask “how do I open the menu?” I’ll say “oh press start. It’s not called start actually but you know press the button that looks like it should be called start.”
Everytime I start up Burnout: Paradise Remastered it tells me to hit Options to start the game. No! It's Start to start!
Blasphemy
Could we take the guy who put a dedicated screenshot button on the controller instead of another options button and drown him in the nearest septic tank?
The touchpad is just "big select".
I'm not sure who in the name of all fuck decided that controllers should have a dedicated Tweeting button, but I suspect this gen will be the last of that.
Same. My older SO corrects me. I won't have any of it.
I'm sorry, are we discussing paddles?
Everywhere I look, you’re 40% of Lemmy
Just doing my part!
But....we have two buttons right? The right one was always start and the left one was options ig? I'm an Xbox 360 player
start and select
This habit is pre Xbox 360
Start and Back, respectively. Now it's "Menu" and "View"
...or possibly "hamburger" and "restore window to smaller size". Because that's logical?
So... I believe I'm old now...
*insert "I'm in this meme and I don't like it" picture.
Hello my name MonsiuerPatEBrown, and I use two spaces after a period.
I like to think that you did it here too, even without a 2nd sentence.
I will always call it the start button, but to be honest, menu or options are better names for what it does.
Curiously enough, the "start" button is now more of a "pause" button. Sometimes also a "skip cutscene" and "open menu" button. Microsoft was into something by actually renaming it to "menu" in the Xbox, since that's what it's used for nowadays. Sony probably chose to call it "options" on the PS4 onwards solely to avoid being sued for plagiarism.
The boomer traits of old gamers
What boomers? Gen Z was the first to mostly grow up without a Start button - and even then, the older ones might still remember the PS3/Xbox 360 Controllers.
As explained in the other chains it was a joke about the "my boomer trait is ABC"
Really tired of how quickly people jump down each other throats on this platform
Eh, it’s always a gamble if you make a joke or reference to something. Reddit was the same way. Even if it’s well received in general there will be people who don’t get it “correcting” you in the comments. Just gotta keep trucking and trust that your target audience knows what you’re talking about.
I liked your comment fwiw. The whole concept here is sticking with what you know despite it being outdated, which many now understand to be a “boomer” trait regardless of someone’s birth year
Gen Z here, I had a ps2, ps3 and psp which all had start and select. I was a child but that's still how I learned it
edit: looked it up and my gameboy advance sp and DS were also start/select
I understood your comment, DreamButt. I call any old person stuff I do "boomer" habits.
Should've gone the Nintendo route and used symbols. "+" and "-"
What are you talking about? The NES was what solidified the select/start names for me. No matter what any manufacturers call the two bottoms in the center of their controller, they will always be select and start.
What I wouldnt give for two bottoms in the center of my controller right now
They already have symbols for their face buttons, PS using symbols for start and select would make more sense than any other company
My main controller is the 8bitdo sf30 pro, which as basically the Super Famicom controller but with sticks and extra buttons for modern functionality labels them Start and Select, as ordained by heaven.
the worst is when they change the shapes to make them smaller (switch & ps5), gotta save pennies on manufacturing costs i guess
Sure, over the course of making 253489291647802 controllers with that savings we can use the excess profit to throw a pizza party instead of paying you a living wage!
The zoomers of today are the the boomers of tomorrow.
On one hand yeah sure back in the day I get it.
Now dang near every game is press x to continue/begin so the start button just begs a question.
On Xbox we have Big X and Little X too!
My primary gaming is on Xbox and I still can't tell the hamburger and copy button icons apart without looking at them when a game refers to them in a tutorial or menu.
