Cross-posted from "Nina going off today" by @seahorse@midwest.social in !antifascism@midwest.social
I was so, so very close to directly calling jordanlund a shitlib after it was almost certainly him who mod deleted my comment, in my own thread, in .world, stating that, speaking from a historical standpoint, the only thing that stops fascists is bullets in their brains.
He of course interpreted that as 'advocating violence', because ... he is a shitlib.
But instead, I composed myself and wrote a more eloquent explanation as to why my comment had been deleted... and, so far, at least that response hasn't been deleted.
Why not post to power tripping bastards?
Because we already know the .world mod/admin team is a bunch of shit lib collaborators from how they acted when Luigi was framed for shooting some asshole who murdered tens of thousands of people by overseeing the denial of their healthcare.
Sorry to rant but goddamnit am I on the exact same wavelength as this post right now.
Jordan, if you read this, go fuck yourself and keep telling yourself Warren was a better choice than Bernie, you slimy rat fuck.
Jordan probably is reading this, he loves scanning comments for people talking about him and then whining about it. Same for a few other common .world users.
But man, Jordan literally banned one of my favorite users from a community because they caught Jodan lying about his poitions and documenting the fact the Dems actively did not care about the lives of brown people home and abroad and queer folk.
.world is a shitlib encampment.
shitlib encampment
The correct plural is 'infestation', please dont be a dick by calling them the wrong thing.
saying the only thing that stops fascists is bullets in their brains
So, first off, banning this as violence suggests stopping fascists is generally desirable; a position i don't think he shares.
Second: that's blatantly untrue. They're not, like, werewolves. Putting aside how that whole myth is an allegory for the abuse cycle and they kind of are. There's lots of places shooting them would work, depending on the bullet and availability of medical care. Plus, things other than bullets that worked. There's ectensive research by zukov et al suggesting it can be done with an artillery shell, and anecdotes from research in the pacific islands backing the 'sharp stick' hypothesis.
So maybe you're the real fascist.
How do we know they aren't vampires? They cover their faces when inside and protect themselves from sunlight by wearing full military gear outside.
I hereby repent before the supreme council of enlightened liberals for unintentionally using language which could possibly be interpreted as invoking an allegory which could possibly be interpreted as me advocating for, or suggesting the use, or evoking imagery of violence against furries, who are valid members of society that have for too long been unjustly forced out of public life.
I thus willingly submit myself to be bound inside the no holds barred yiff pit for a duration not exceeding 24 hrs, whereby my latent fascist tendencies will be expunged from me, and I shall emerge, born again, as a more tolerant member of society.
I used to defend JordanLund when people called him a Zionist
After his recent actions banning anti-zionist voices on WorldNews, banning Independent media that reports on the genocide, and banning pro-palestinian emancipatory slogans, it's overwhelmingly obvious he is at the very least a Zionist Sympathizer
He's also terribly reactionary on many social issues
I hate being that cringe guy in the comments posting FD quotes, but this one is such a banger
Power concedes nothing without a demand. It never did and it never will. Find out just what any people will quietly submit to and you have found out the exact measure of injustice and wrong which will be imposed upon them, and these will continue till they are resisted with either words or blows, or with both. The limits of tyrants are prescribed by the endurance of those whom they oppress
But in condemning violence it would be an act of irresponsibility not to be as strong in condemning the conditions in our society that cause people to feel so angry that they have no alternative but to engage in riots. What we must see is that a riot is the language of the unheard.
What is it that America has failed to hear? It has failed to hear that the plight of the Negro poor has worsened over the last 10 or 12 years. It's failed to hear that the promises of freedom and justice have not been met. It has failed to hear that large segments of white society are more concerned about tranquility and the status quo than about justice, equality, and humanity.
Finally, an accurate use for the term "shitlib"
Shitlibs and policing activities they'll never engage in, name a more iconic duo.
Shitlibs and guilt tripping voters while being smug and wondering why no one likes them.
"Don't make us be good. Fall in line, or else it gets ~~the hose~~ fascism again."
Fucking extremely this.
God I love Nina, happy to see others are aware of her style.
she just don't miss.
I had this exact convo with a friend recently. Peaceful protest can work against a government with a ~~conscious~~ conscience. The US gov’t has consistently shown to not have a ~~conscious~~ conscience. My local organizers don’t really seem to get this, which just means they, and many of the general citizens they direct, will be underprepared for the conflict that will almost inevitably arise.
There's a much better reason to not be violent: So that you can get more people onto the streets. Figures that most people don't fancy dodging burning trash cans and you want everybody on the streets, not just your polycule. People need to feel like they're safe at the protest, the only danger there is is coming from the state.
That's a nice argument when the cops are not yet shooting random passerbys with rubber bullets and teargas. People don't stay home because they're afraid of other protestors.
People usually only remember part of Thomas Jefferson’s quote: “The tree of liberty must be refreshed with the blood of tyrants.”
The full thing goes “The tree of liberty must be refreshed with the blood of patriots and tyrants.”
This is class warfare. We all need to start getting used to the fact that many of us patriots are going to die fighting this fascist machine.
I know, right? These fuvking anachronistic world war mashup re-enacters, fucking tear gassing and shooting random people as they get so mean towards the cops!
Feel like they're ignoring the fact that these massive protests are a sign of contention and the point is to not devolve into complete violence. We do need to make it harder for him to convince others that we are not unruly people, but people protesting actual grievances.
Peaceful protest or "sitting it out" is when you have hope to last longer than the current crisis.
The current crisis, at least in the US, is not going to vanish that quickly. The real crisis is the dropping wages, and that's not gonna revert much. Socialism or barbarism!
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Well yeah. It's possible for peaceful protests to work, but let's look at history. In reality, the pigs are going to get violent regardless of what anyone does, the national guard will be called out and they're going to use tear gas because their bosses want them to, and despite the fear of injury or death, large groups of people will keep working to make things better.
This is guaranteed to occur. For good or bad, whatever, it will happen. So let's stop worrying about certain outcomes and move our focus to the uncertain things.
Fight before your not able to
For the few ppl advocating pacifism below, seems like a good time to read this:
You guys first. Show us how it's done.
Absolutely right. Even Gavin Newsome is doing nothing but threatening to file a lawsuit. Buncha goddamn pussies. There is only ONE way to deal with Nazis and it isnt bEiNg pEaCeFuL
This is like saying, "If you're going to be wrongly accused of a crime, you may as well commit it"...just to prove them right?
Not sure how this advice does anything other than give Trump exactly what he wants.
Look if I was gonna be falsely accused of assault and knew for a fact that there was nothing I could do about it in court I might beat the shit out of the accusor. Trump is gonna get what he wants whether we like it or not. Fascism is inevitable and Trump is only a symptom of that process
Lately people are starting to come around to ways social media makes people sick, and understanding consequences of the information age; from my experience the first casualty of this was not our attention spans, but our will to resist. Apparently just telling people your opinions on things anonymously gratifies your ego just enough without having to sign a petition, or stand outside in a line. "I'm so passionate about this subject I spend every waking moment talking about it online.; uh yeah I can't make it to the protest sorry, It's like a 30 minute drive and I have work in the morning."
It has to get worse before it can get better. Violate.
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