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[-] loaf@sh.itjust.works 279 points 4 weeks ago

“The Trump Administration has a zero tolerance policy for criminal behavior …”

Dude that’s your entire administration. Have some self-awareness, you orange, sagging, coffin dodging oxygen thief.

[-] resipsaloquitur@lemmy.world 110 points 4 weeks ago

Who, Trump the thirty-two times felon?

[-] AreaKode@lemmy.world 94 points 4 weeks ago

Never met the guy. We're talking the 34 felony convicted man.

[-] resipsaloquitur@lemmy.world 49 points 4 weeks ago

Oh, right, 34 felonies. So far.

[-] Hideakikarate@sh.itjust.works 62 points 4 weeks ago

34 convicted felonies so far

[-] andros_rex@lemmy.world 42 points 3 weeks ago

Don’t forget rapist. Probably liked them young, like his buddy Epstein.

[-] kreskin@lemmy.world 39 points 3 weeks ago

allegedly he asked epstein for a 13 year old that looked like his daughter.

https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2016/11/3/13501364/trump-rape-13-year-old-lawsuit-katie-johnson-allegation

And heres a lives of the rich and famous type show where ivanka shows us her childhood bedroom. Watch her face after she shows her bed, right near the end. She looks like she's about to fall apart.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-CsxHBS89Lw

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[-] prole 22 points 3 weeks ago

Have some self-awareness

The hypocrisy is a feature, not a bug. Don't waste your time.

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[-] ModestMeme@lemm.ee 173 points 3 weeks ago

I just want to take a moment to say the “Biden was no better than Trump” crowd can go fuck themselves.

[-] KairuByte@lemmy.dbzer0.com 36 points 3 weeks ago

No no, you see, voting for Biden would be voting for this too, somehow. Because they are part of the same system, or something? Both sides same and all that.

Honestly the mental gymnastics are too much for me to effectively work out into a distilled comment.

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[-] InternetCitizen2@lemmy.world 28 points 3 weeks ago

These things are always so annoying and uncritical. They are not wrong that the democrats are a conservative party, but that is still where the current progressive movement lives.

I think there is a bit of a trap in seeing the maga rise as a monolith, but I think there are two main wings. The evangelical side and the libertarian side. They might have some overlap, but their motivations and goals are still rather distinct. The important take away for this short essay of sorts is that they have agreed on enough points to move the overton window to get large parts of what they want. For the evangelicals it is abortion bans and ten commandments in schools. In the libertarian wing it is DOGE (inspired by the libertarian president in argentina)

Tankies and others who say “Biden was no better than Trump” are really messing up our ability to have a leftist/progressive party. In either growing it with-in the dems or starting from scratch. I want to understand what they are saying, but it is frustrating how unserious they are in actually achieving goals.

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[-] prole 141 points 3 weeks ago

Funny how he doesn't hesitate here, but when Congress was literally in danger of being fucking lynched on Jan 6, he didn't do shit.

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[-] ShittyBeatlesFCPres@lemmy.world 131 points 3 weeks ago

Whatever side of this issue you fall on, you should at least know that, tactics-wise, joining with the LAPD to do raids in Eastside LA is not going to work how you think it will. There’s movies, albums, books, historic moments in living memory, etc. that warn about that. Start in Sacramento or wherever. Don’t expect East LA to care about your “authority.”

[-] arrow74@lemm.ee 110 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

The powerful and their goons seem to have forgotten that sure they can roll up anywhere with an army and overpower protesters, but that's not going to solve this. It's just going to start a true resistance.

There have been few times in history where resistance forces have fought state forces on an open battlefield.

As seen historically, a typical resistance force will harrass the enemy. Bomb their buildings, stockpiles, and infrastructure. Wait until the state goons are alone, at their homes, at the bar, in a grocery store and then that's when they kill them.

All sending the national gaurd in to kill protesters will result in is a true resitance forming.

The powerful have forgotten what it was like to be afraid to leave their fortresses

[-] SayJess 46 points 3 weeks ago

I hope a true resistance is born of this. We need to band together and rise up!

[-] MuskyMelon@lemmy.world 31 points 3 weeks ago

Agreed. If protestor blood is spilled, it will foment a resistance that will build.

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[-] mhague@lemmy.world 113 points 3 weeks ago

These people are protesting against extrajudicial deportation, deporting children, harassing legal immigrants, the Nazi government, etc.

It's not a fucking immigration protest. They didn't deploy the military for immigration protests. People spoke out against Nazis and the military was called in.

[-] pleasegoaway@lemm.ee 31 points 3 weeks ago

Yeah, it’s no longer an “immigration protest”. It’s a NAZI protest.

[-] HorseTesselator@midwest.social 106 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

Maybe a bit of a hot take, but I think Trump is also doing this at least partly to distract from his spat with Musk's Epstein implications. Not to mention Trump's upcoming parade. Also, keep in mind that 2,000 Nat'l guard troops is surprisingly low, especially for an area the size of L.A. In '92 they brought in almost 10,000.

I'd be lying if I said I wasn't nervous about this, too, but personally I believe people need to keep their cool, here. I'm seeing a lot of doom spiraling and panicking all over the place online and we need to be mindful of how this affects us mentally and emotionally.

We're in the long game.

[-] vaultdweller013@sh.itjust.works 48 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

This is basically my take as well, Californian cities are fucking massive and 2,000 people in LA especially is barely a drop in the bucket. Also these are National guardsmen who may very well be pissed they are being sent to stand around outside in LA during the summer, the concrete and blacktop does not let go of heat easily.

Edit: Bucket not bugget, my auto correct is on bath salts.

[-] P00ptart@lemmy.world 34 points 3 weeks ago

Also, a number of them will agree with protesters.

[-] vaultdweller013@sh.itjust.works 25 points 3 weeks ago

And there's another factor, out of any militarized element in the US the national guard have the potential to be the least threatening. They were affected by the post Vietnam reforms just like the rest of the branches, especially after Kent state. Fact of the matter is the guardsmen are far more likely to take issue with ICE and the police in general, reminder that quite a few came forward after the BLM protests saying they wanted to defend the protestors from the police.

Mind you that doesn't eliminate risks involved but it does mean that there is far far more potential for this to utterly backfire in Trump's face.

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[-] Catma@lemmy.world 20 points 3 weeks ago

No its not to distract from Musk. He is lowballing deployment so if/when it doesnt work and he deploys the actual Army or Marines it will seem "reasonable". He is 100% looking for a reason to fuck California hard and will get it.

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[-] BigMacHole@sopuli.xyz 75 points 4 weeks ago

You mean the Man who Deployed Secret Police in his FIRST TERM is Deploying the National Guard in his SECOND TERM? I did NAZI This coming!

[-] refract@lemmy.dbzer0.com 67 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

If you don't own a gun, its time to get one, regardless of your stance on them. This is martial law without having to call it that.

https://www.whitehouse.gov/presidential-actions/2025/06/department-of-defense-security-for-the-protection-of-department-of-homeland-security-functions/

[-] pleasegoaway@lemm.ee 28 points 3 weeks ago

Gavin Newson specifically said that he did not ask for or need the 2,000 troops and that sending to LA would only make things worse.

Sooo, there’s that.

[-] wetbeardhairs@lemmy.dbzer0.com 21 points 3 weeks ago

Legally I believe the National Guard must be mobilized for a legal reason and until Trump has identified an actual cause, he cannot mobilize them himself. So Newson should just order them to stand down.

Newson hasn't done that though.

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[-] damdy@lemm.ee 62 points 3 weeks ago

This is actually insane. Bringing tanks to a knife fight... except it's not even a knife fight it's a thumb war. This is going to cause country wide rioting and Trump's only recourse will be to further up the anti. I feel worried for you guys.

[-] barneypiccolo@lemm.ee 42 points 3 weeks ago

This is all predictable. By next summer, besides more immigration crimes, we'll have food and product shortages, massive tariff-driven inflation, an economy roiling over his constant market manipulation, Luigi's trial, arrests of prominent politicians and resistors, etc. There will be protests against all of these issues and more, and he will use those protests to stir up trouble and create violence.

By next summer it will get really ugly, and he'll declare Martial Law, and suspend the Midterm election, so he can preserve his Congressional majorities.

Without Skum to rig the election, he will have no choice but to go with the Martial Law option.

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[-] crumbguzzler5000@feddit.org 60 points 4 weeks ago

It's starting!!! The downfall of democracy, we had a good run!

[-] arrow74@lemm.ee 68 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago)

Or its revival. This might become the spark that turns these protests into a revolution.

A new Boston massacre may be in our future

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[-] conditional_soup@lemm.ee 54 points 4 weeks ago

Oh, that happened the instant the SCOTUS declared the president above the law and Biden didn't say "fuck you, idiots", fire all the justices who ruled in favor of that decision at gunpoint, appoint all new justices in their place, and then declare that ruling void by fiat. If you're about to say "the president can't do that", the SCOTUS declared the president above the law, he actually can.

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[-] kreskin@lemmy.world 24 points 3 weeks ago

we had a good run!

I'd rank it as 'just OK' compared to how the rest of the western developed world is doing and how many resources and advantages we had from the start. We can do much better next time. I think in the upcoming defederation we are not only going to let the south secede, we will insist on it. Godspeed to texas, florida, and the south.

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[-] Treczoks@lemmy.world 58 points 3 weeks ago

There is a good reason not to follow unconstitutional orders.

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[-] ArchmageAzor@lemmy.world 49 points 3 weeks ago

I'm not actually surprised that the second american civil war starts in California. Cali always seemed like the most progressive state.

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[-] prole 47 points 3 weeks ago

They've been salivating for an opportunity like this. I bet they thought it would have happened already

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[-] NutWrench@lemmy.ml 38 points 3 weeks ago

2000 Guardsmen. For a city of 3 million. And a governor who doesn't want them there. Sure. Good luck with that.

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[-] Gammelfisch@lemmy.world 38 points 3 weeks ago

Shit MAGA creating their version of Tiananmen Square. I guarantee the fucking CCP and Russians are smiling.

[-] Doorbook@lemmy.world 33 points 3 weeks ago

Repeat after me: A government that is bluntly sending weapon to bomb kids have no concern of it is own citizen.

Injustice anywhere is a threat to justice everywhere. We are caught in an inescapable network of mutuality, tied in a single garment of destiny. Whatever affects one directly, affects all indirectly.

[-] Yerbouti@sh.itjust.works 29 points 3 weeks ago

Yeah, this is fucking depressing. Anyone wanna fight about Linux distros?

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[-] NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io 29 points 4 weeks ago

“purposefully inflammatory”

Uh... this goes a bit beyond "inflammatory" chief.

Bass said in a statement Saturday night. “Everyone has the right to peacefully protest, but let me be clear: violence and destruction are unacceptable, and those responsible will be held accountable.”

Well at least he got the stuff about feckless Democrats right.

Police on Friday night issued a citywide tactical alert nearly two hours after declaring protests across the downtown area unlawful assemblies. “The use of less lethal munitions has been authorized by the Incident Commander,”

I mean ACAB so this isn't new, but still holy authoritarianism batman.

Newsom said in a statement responding to Huerta’s arrest, describing the union president as a “respected leader, a patriot and an advocate for working people.”

I'd like that sentiment to carry over to, you know, actual policy, but I guess he's not folding like a lawn chair yet.

[-] peteyestee@feddit.org 28 points 3 weeks ago

How many fakes are in the crowd manipulating the situation for the oppositions political gain?

[-] stringere@sh.itjust.works 48 points 3 weeks ago
[-] NutWrench@lemmy.ml 21 points 3 weeks ago

Yup. And it's always these guy who are agitating for violence and "burning shiat down" and nobody can remember who this guy is or exactly when he joined the group.

They're called, "agents provocateurs" (google them. They're nothing new). They are government plants whose job is to start shit in peaceful protests to give the government an excuse to crack down violently.

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[-] shaquilleoatmeal@lemm.ee 22 points 3 weeks ago

I’m afraid he’ll declare martial law. What happens if he does?

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[-] SharkAttak@kbin.melroy.org 20 points 4 weeks ago

Like there's no article of the Constitution giving right of protest.

[-] arrow74@lemm.ee 28 points 3 weeks ago

But you dont understand one protestor littered , meaning that it is now an illegal gathering and that the thousands of people gathered are a violent mob.

Very convenient

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[-] ShoeThrower@lemmy.zip 21 points 3 weeks ago

There's also a part that says freedom of speech, right to a fair trial, freedom from unreasonable search & seizures, right to asylum...

How's that going?

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