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[-] RampantParanoia2365@lemmy.world 8 points 4 months ago

Yes, I agree. We should put Trump in a peach and roll him off a cliff.

[-] Ceruleum@lemmy.wtf 3 points 4 months ago

A flaming peach.

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[-] iamjackflack@lemm.ee 7 points 4 months ago

Yessss let the hate flow through you

[-] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 7 points 4 months ago

Woah, woah, dial it back Ketamine Elmo. You gotta save some for tomorrow.

[-] ramenshaman@lemmy.world 3 points 4 months ago

Let him cook

[-] null_dot@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 4 months ago

He's just so nutty.

Is it really as simple as the bill being unfavorable for Elno?

So as long as the bill had not harmed US car manufacturers for example he would've continued his bullshit loyalty?

I just don't really understand what's happening or why.

[-] Hadriscus@lemm.ee 6 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Impeach Trump, deport Musk... but then Vance gets couch-cast ? I'd rather not see this happen

[-] einlander@lemmy.world 6 points 4 months ago

I think Trump might deport this African immigrant for being part of some plot against the government.

[-] Moobythegoldensock@lemm.ee 6 points 4 months ago

The silver lining to the shit show of the last 9 months is that the Republican drama has finally gotten entertaining.

[-] gandalf_der_12te@discuss.tchncs.de 6 points 4 months ago

Ok, so let me try to make sense of this:

Around the year 2010-2020, i and many other vehemently warned against the issue of rising national debt. Yet "experts" said "it's fine, we can make as much debt as we want to, nothing bad is going to happen because of it lol".

Starting in the last 5 years or so, lots of experts say "oh no, the national debt is way to high, that's a disaster, that's a catastrophe, we can't let that happen, who put us into this situation?" Just let me appreciate the irony for a bit. I fucking called it. I said this was going to happen. I was called insane. This feels really validating to me.

Anyways, since now lots of people, including economists, are angry that the debt is too high, people want it lowered. The obvious and straightforward solution would of course be to introduce a wealth tax (i.e. a tax on millionaires and billionaires).

In the beginning of 2025, Musk and Trump both agreed (at least in public) that the debt has to be lowered. Musk's attempt was to cut the federal government. Well, the federal government spends money for two things, mostly: subsidies (social security, medical bill assistance, ...) and data-processing (i.e., enforcing regulations, tax collection agency, ...). The first one costs most of the money, but reducing it gets the public angry (understandably) and is therefore a political suicide. The second one doesn't really cost that much, yet that is the one that Musk attempted to reduce to the point of dysfunctionality. Since it didn't cost much to begin with, reducing it didn't save a lot of money. In May 2025, Trump says "was Musk's DOGE all a hoax?" and the feud begins. Musk realizes that Trump is against increasing taxes for the rich and publicly accuses Trump of having no actual intention of lowering the national debt. This is where we are now.

[-] jabeez@lemmy.today 7 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

The rethuglicans have literally used false concern about the debt for decades now? They then get into office and blow it up, but the next time a dem is in office, the debt is once again the worst problem ever and is out of control. Rinse>repeat, again, for decades now.

Edit: oh, the article posted by SoleInvictus lays it out much better than I tried

[-] karashta@fedia.io 5 points 4 months ago

The ultimate irony being that the "national debt" is simply the tally of all interest bearing and non interest bearing dollars created by the government that haven't been taxed out of existence.

There's no scenario where we can't pay debt denominated in our own currency, unless the government chooses not to pay.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sectoral_balances

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[-] bampop@lemmy.world 5 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Who will win this fight?

Everybody!

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[-] thesohoriots@lemmy.world 4 points 4 months ago

Just going at it like two whores at the great capitalist gangbang.

[-] Archangel1313@lemmy.ca 4 points 4 months ago

Honestly, I'm surprised it took this long.

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[-] hopesdead@startrek.website 4 points 4 months ago

I’m sure we are wanting this for very different reasons.

[-] selkiesidhe@lemm.ee 4 points 4 months ago

Lol this is getting better and better! We knew they'd have a breakup eventually.

With luck muskrat will give us some damning evidence as he tries to win back the public's view via his new PR team lolol

[-] Showroom7561@lemmy.ca 4 points 4 months ago

That marriage didn't last long 😂😂😂😂 This is going to be highly entertaining.

[-] 100_kg_90_de_belin@feddit.it 3 points 4 months ago

Both deserve some Piazzale Loreto'ing

[-] Shardikprime@lemmy.world 3 points 4 months ago

Inb4 this is a penta dimensional play

Musk accused trump of being, allegedly, on the Epstein list

The Dems request and approve for this list to be released

Trump ends not being on the list, but the Dem leadership does

Absolute trolling + pure cinema

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