I have this feeling that JD Vance is way worse than Trump
He is much worse, but he's also far less of a threat, as he doesn't have ANY public mandate, in the form of any kind of following or cultish fandom.
Trump's power is almost ENTIRELY a product of how he tapped into the country's stupid fucking redneck hogs and narcissists and delusional conspiracy nuts. JD has exactly ZERO flat-earthers driving around with his face painted on the side of their van. Having a following of millions of people, even if they are mentally-deficient to a degree that is literally breathtaking, is still power, a great deal of power too because he has them under such tight control.
Vance might be dangerous in short-term policy decisions, but he doesn't have electoral power, he doesn't have chips in the game, he won't make a dent in senate/house bill votes, he won't have influence on local and state elections. He's pre-neutered. The only ones who should be worried about Vance are the white-house sofas.
Vance is absolutely worse. He's the true disciple of Curtis Yarvin, and that's the end of the country as we know it.
Yes, but he won’t be backed up by maga. There will be more internal fighting.
OKey at least there is that. I just want somebody in the US office who will fix the political system to be more compromise based, but I think I'll sooner see a unicorn irl.
Vance is totally owned by Peter Theil, who is a well-known Psychopathic Oligarch.
This scenario is quite the best outcome. Two narcissists fighting each other, hopong for a homicide/suicide ❤️
The war of the attention whores has begun...
I kept seeing people saying that this is all performative and that they're both in on it, but idk, I was raised by narcissists and this is basically the exact same fight playing out on the global stage that played out weekly in my childhood living room.
Yep, same, exactly.
This is way, way too in depth to be an elaborately staged, intetional hyperreality performance.
These two just actually are this stupid, this self-centered, this insecure and ego driven.
If this is some kind of an act, it would require both of them to have been method acting at Daniel Day Lewis levels for about a decade with no breaks.
Its 'performative' in the sense of intentionally being catty, shit-disturbing, dramatic, old men acting like the cast of the Mean Girls... but it is not performative in the sense of 'entirely staged to fool us dumb rubes.'
That being said, this all still does function as a grand distraction to any other person or kind of nefarious nonsense... but no, these two are having the messiest, most high stakes, most public breakup in probably the history of the world right now, and they are both totally genuine.
... It is also arguably the funniest way concievable for the American Empire / Era to end.
How in the fuck do you write a history book about this in 20 years?
... I don't fucking know, but I do know I want Larry David to write a script for a 'The Death of Stalin' style movie about the last 9 months.
EDIT: Wait! Mel Brooks is still alive somefucking how, get in him in the writing room too!
Is this a massive gamble by Elmo to rebuild his brand image by forcing me to agree with him on certain issues? Let’s not forget this was the same guy Nazi saluting this dude at his Inauguration a few short months ago.
No, its not. Musk is just salty Trump used and discarded him. You have to understand, these are just children who stumbled into power and never really grew up.
Yeah - nepo babies are like this. Made the mistake of marrying one, and any perceived slight needed punishment and retaliation.
I'm not forgetting anything. I'm just enjoying two enemies fight it out.
So let me get that straight, you spent hundreds of millions of dollars to get a guy, who you think should be impeached and is guilty of underage sex, to be the president of the United States?
He KNEW about the underage sex stuff when he spent the nearly 300 billion dollars too.
Can we have both of these? Please please please?
I know there is some clause or stipulation that allows for the seizure of assets obtained by illegal immigrants.
Musk is an illegal immigrant who pursued business ventures in violation of his school visa and lied about it.
If we're dreaming of fantasies that will never happen, I also want nationwide ranked-choice voting, and maybe we can overturn Citizens United Vs Federal Elections and stop allowing corporations to literally run our country.
now we are talking
Who could see this coming said that one clueless guy who didn't.
Anybody have any idea what they're trying to hide with this puppet show? Is the big bill getting too much attention or is it something else?
I think you're giving them too much credit. I'm pretty sure this really is just a senile old man feuding with a ketamine addict.
There was news today that the Senate is considering cutting Medicare in addition to Medicaid, as well as news of major changes to how science funding is sent out to researchers. Also the travel bans for foreign nationals from certain countries.
What I really love about this is that Trump is so narcissistic that he earnestly believed that Elon liked him. That he believed in his vision for the country and that he wouldn't want anything in return, like a load more juicy government contracts, a bill to mandate that petrol cars would be phased out, or all safety regulations about self driving cars to be torn up.
Bless his cold dead heart for being exactly what everybody knows he is. Everybody except those idiots who jump into bed with him, because all those other people he betrayed were losers who just weren't smart enough.
Sadly enough, this won't escalate into anything because Musk didn't exactly have a lot of friends in the GOP even when Trump's head was crammed shoulder-deep in his ass. He was only tolerated because the GOP had no other real choice, and they didn't want to risk him funding a primary challenger. He has lots of money but no actual political clout. Which means I doubt there's going to be a bunch of Republicans suddenly jumping to Team Musk.
He'll probably go the Liz Cheney route of just being ostracized by everybody. But hey, it'll be a hell of a lot of fun watching all this shit in the meantime.
I don’t know. He’s got tons of money and politicians are like flies to shit with money.
Consider this, JD Vance is Peter Thiel's Acolyte, who desperately wants to bring about a global technocracy. What if all of this hasn't been a genuine attempt yet. What if it's merely theatre that has been setting the stage for Vance to take over. Trump gets to enrich his family beyond their wildest imagination, then he peaces out and the real horror begins.
This is like hearing the school saying the two biggest bullies are going to fight in the yard after school
Everyone knows that one of them can't hit any thing harder than a pillow and the other always chickens out against any opponent unless the person they'll punch is held down by four guys.
The entire school knows that this shit show is a circus that will just be full of drama and no fighting .... but we're all going to head out onto the yard anyway to laugh at how stupid these idiots are going perform.
I'll see you all on the yard after the last bell at 3pm
Did the simulation break?
This is so fucking bizzare.
Some truman-show shit to see how we (the non-actors of this world) react.
I seriously don't know anyone didn't see this coming or how anyone is remotely surprised. I'm just surprised it took this long, I thought they would keep it together for at least half the term to meet their own goals.
They hated each other from the beginning, they always were about to shred out the throat of the other one. Smarter people in roles of power are good at keeping their shit under their hat, but neither of these men are smart.
you call this BREAKING? just another day
Yes, I agree. We should put Trump in a peach and roll him off a cliff.
Impeach Trump, deport Musk... but then Vance gets couch-cast ? I'd rather not see this happen
I was waiting for those two to fall out. Two egos this big were always going to clash sooner or later. This will be entertaining and hopefully damaging to both of them.
Well, I've been saying that for months. Do I get money now?
There's some major schadenfreude in this, but never forget all of the damage that DOGE did to the government & countless numbers of its loyal employees.
He also tweeted a few hours ago that he's thinking of starting a new political party (for the 80%?). Imagine if he Ross-Perots the next election. Either that or he becomes so petty he starts primary-ing Trump supporters in the House. He has a lot of options. Though I don't expect much is gonna come out of it. Probably throw a few more shots to Trump to repair Tesla's image and take a break from politics.
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