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[-] ummthatguy@lemmy.world 41 points 3 weeks ago

For me, Sci-Fi is about the hope of a better future. In those stories, people explore beyond our petty problems of the past.

[-] Asetru@feddit.org 8 points 3 weeks ago

Not much of that utopian sci fi around though.

[-] ummthatguy@lemmy.world 5 points 3 weeks ago

There's some hopeful sci-fi on it's way soon with Starfleet Academy.

Mostly looking forward to the return of The Doc.

[-] Zero22xx 7 points 3 weeks ago

Yeah I guess there's two different categories of sci-fi in this regard. Personally, I think stuff that's as far ahead in the future as Star Trek is pretty close to fantasy. But then there's also the Philip K. Dick style near future dystopian sci-fi that serves more as a warning about the future we're headed to (or instruction manual if you're a techbro CEO).

Fantasy is probably the same actually. I usually think happy thoughts if I think about fantasy as a genre but then there's also stuff like Game of Thrones.

[-] ininewcrow@lemmy.ca 3 points 3 weeks ago

At this point in our development, we are like new born babies .... in a few hundred or even a thousand years, we'll be like toddlers.

When you look back on our human evolution as a species, our first ancestors came about two million years ago, the ancestors that look like humans are about 100,000 years ago and the ones that would most closely resemble us and our way of thinking is about 50,000 years ago. We've only been technologically capable for the past 150 years. When you think about it, we are closer to our frightened, superstitious, ignorant prehistoric ancestors than to any futuristic culture we would like to emulate.

It's going to take us generations and centuries to get to the point of being a contributing participant in a galactic community. IF we can survive that long.

"I do not know what I may appear to the world; but to myself I seem to have been only like a boy playing on the sea-shore, and diverting myself in now and then finding a smoother pebble or a prettier shell than ordinary, whilst the great ocean of truth lay all undiscovered before me."

  • Isaac Newton

....... but saying all that, I don't mean to be disparaging or negative ... just realistic. In the long run of human history, it will be through people like you and this community of hopeful people that enjoy playing in these ideas and possibilities that will take us one step towards a more hopeful future.

[-] NaibofTabr@infosec.pub 2 points 3 weeks ago

'O brave new world, that has such people in 't!'

[-] CyberEgg@discuss.tchncs.de 28 points 3 weeks ago

Flaw number one: sci fi can be a lot, tonally. It can be depressing, but also hopeful, horrifying, epic etc.
Flaw number two: fantasy can be a lot, tonally. It can be depressing, but also hopeful, horrifying, epic etc.
Flaw number three: "literature" is not a setting. There's fantasy and sci fi literature as well as real-world-related or apocalyptic literature. "Literature" is just written down stories.

[-] FundMECFSResearch 3 points 3 weeks ago

Also fantasy doesn’t have to seem in the past. H*rry Potter was written as present.

[-] rumschlumpel@feddit.org 16 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

I don't think sci-fi and fantasy are that clear-cut. A lot of fantasy is quite hopeful (the bad guys pretty much always lose at the end of the story), and it's kind of 50:50 whether it depicts the past as better or worse than it was. e.g. the shire in Lord of the Rings is practically a utopia, despite not being completely unrealistic for a pre-industrial society (it probably looks a lot more utopian than it is because most of the hobbit characters we know are aristocrats).

Literature is, generally, definitely not about happy feelings, though.

[-] MnemonicBump@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

This is Farmer Maggot erasure and I won't have it

[-] pruwybn@discuss.tchncs.de 16 points 3 weeks ago

If every genre you read is depressing, you're the common factor.

[-] aeronmelon@lemmy.world 11 points 3 weeks ago

That's my secret, Cap. I'm depressed about the past, present, and future at the same time.

[-] ininewcrow@lemmy.ca 9 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

For Conservatives these days ....

Sci-fi is their fantasy

Fantasy is their reality

and literature about dystopian futures is their guide

[-] Surenho@lemmy.wtf 7 points 3 weeks ago

Uh, did I always use the word "literature" wrong? Literature is not a genre... is it?

[-] mmddmm@lemm.ee 5 points 3 weeks ago

No, the OP is the one that wrong.

[-] Empricorn@feddit.nl 6 points 3 weeks ago

Sci-fi is what the future could be.
Fantasy is what the world will never be.
Literature is what the world is.

[-] missandry351@lemmings.world 5 points 3 weeks ago

Sci-fi makes me even more depressed because I start to think what we could have now and don’t have because of capitalism

[-] TeamAssimilation@infosec.pub 5 points 3 weeks ago

This is just wanting a pretext to be depressed.

[-] AnUnusualRelic@lemmy.world 2 points 3 weeks ago

People need a pretext now?

[-] Mustakrakish@lemmy.world 4 points 3 weeks ago

Wrong. Scifi at least is about the present. It just uses flashy backdrops and tech to bring you out of your bubble and think a different way about it.

[-] Olgratin_Magmatoe@slrpnk.net 3 points 3 weeks ago

You like science fiction because of how it makes you feel about the future. I like science fiction because space ships cool.

We are not the same.

[-] Rena 3 points 3 weeks ago

Split fiction!

[-] psx_crab@lemmy.zip 3 points 3 weeks ago

Apocalypse is when you happy about the future.

[-] madjo@feddit.nl 2 points 3 weeks ago

I prefer high fantasy over grim dark fantasy.

[-] tino@lemmy.world 1 points 3 weeks ago

why not all three

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