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[-] Buffalox@lemmy.world 39 points 3 days ago

Armed? Like the 92 year old in wheel chair in a nursery home, who was holding a cutlery knife?
Police calls everything armed, and they call everything a lethal threat. They are trained to be scared all the time, despite fewer policemen die from working hazards than bakers!

[-] 13igTyme@lemmy.world 7 points 3 days ago

Nursing is a more dangerous job than Police officer.

[-] ArchmageAzor@lemmy.world 7 points 3 days ago

Nursing is a more honorable job than police officer.

[-] SabinStargem@lemmy.today 7 points 3 days ago

The biggest source of injury and death for a police man is traffic accidents. A delivery girl moving pizzas isn't much different from a police man, except she delivers delicious, not death, to people.

[-] EmpathicVagrant@lemmy.world 5 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

•The kid with a candy bar

•The kid with a cell phone

•Whoever raises their head too much around them.

[-] jpreston2005@lemmy.world 18 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

fatal police shootings in more-Democratic states have declined 15 percent on a population-adjusted basis, with the rate holding relatively steady since Mr. Floyd’s death.

But in Republican-leaning states, they have risen 23 percent. And within those redder states, exurbs and rural areas, which tend to be more conservative than cities, have the highest rates of police killings.

You're telling me that in republican bastion states of lower education, less unions, less social spending, and more racism, is tied to more violence and a greater amount of extra-judicial killings by the state-sanctioned corporation-protectors? But they have almost 4 weeks of training! How could this possibly be??

But don't worry! They're trying to make it worse! Far worse!

This week, the Justice Department said it would no longer investigate or oversee nearly two dozen police departments that were accused of civil rights violations, including in Minneapolis and Louisville, Ky. And in April, President Trump signed an executive order aimed at “unleashing” law enforcement, including by directing the U.S. attorney general to “provide legal resources” to defend police officers accused of wrongdoing.

[-] qx128@lemmy.world 79 points 3 days ago

Sure, important metric. But can you please choose better fucking colors for the graph?

[-] masterofn001@lemmy.ca 41 points 3 days ago

Caucasian flesh tone color pencil color doesn't work for you?

[-] orbituary@lemmy.dbzer0.com 19 points 3 days ago

I'm not colorblind, but I'm aware of the colors that don't work for those who are.

Caucasian flesh tone colored pencil is one of them.

[-] errer@lemmy.world 13 points 3 days ago

If they used brown the plot would be shot

[-] qx128@lemmy.world 11 points 3 days ago

Honestly, I can’t distinguish the colors

[-] blakenong@lemmings.world 9 points 3 days ago

If you are Caucasian and have skin that is any of those colors, please see a doctor immediately.

[-] Buffalox@lemmy.world 9 points 3 days ago

To not discriminate against the colorblind, they made it hard for everybody.

[-] navi@lemmy.tespia.org 8 points 3 days ago

my color bind ass thanks you for your service.

[-] madjo@feddit.nl 6 points 3 days ago

Until this comment, I hadn't even realized there were multiple colours in the graph.

[-] GuyFawkes@midwest.social 44 points 3 days ago

Thus demonstrating the power of the peaceful protest.

[-] blakenong@lemmings.world 15 points 3 days ago

Meaning it has no power, right?

[-] comfy@lemmy.ml 19 points 3 days ago

It's more complex than that, and a protest has more important benefits than a mere direct message (incl. networking), but a ruler or military/police won't change their mind because a million people said "I don't like this". There needs to be some threat, like a strike or even violence, to make them suddenly care about ethics.

[-] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 7 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

There needs to be some threat, like a strike

To state officials, any interruption of economic activity is a form of violence.

One reason why they are so effective and why state police are so enthusiastic in preventing them from occurring.

[-] blakenong@lemmings.world 8 points 3 days ago

Strikes are useless nowadays, at least for government change in the US. The government just says “ok, strike.” And then knows you’ll stop eventually.

[-] Cocodapuf@lemmy.world 7 points 3 days ago

That's inaccurate. Hell the government hates strikes so much, some states have passed legislation making collective bargaining, and strikes illegal. When a government tries to tell you that doing something reasonable is wrong, and in fact illegal, that means it's working.

[-] comfy@lemmy.ml 4 points 3 days ago

The government just says “ok, strike.”

Got any examples? Because what's first coming to mind for large modern strikes is the train strike that the Biden government explicitly outlawed. (before the environmental disaster in West Palestine, Ohio)

[-] blakenong@lemmings.world 1 points 3 days ago

On strike as in they don’t give a shit it won’t work.

[-] SabinStargem@lemmy.today 1 points 3 days ago

I think that if the US government is overhauled, guaranteed UBI would be key to allowing for effective strikes. The coercive power of losing your home and going hungry is what allows the powers that be to ignore the protests of the people.

[-] comfy@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 days ago

I think that if the US government is overhauled, guaranteed UBI would be key to allowing for effective strikes.

In the meantime, we use voluntary strike funds for a similar effect.

[-] blakenong@lemmings.world 3 points 3 days ago

I agree… but the direction of the world is making it very clear that won’t happen. Heck, Denmark just raised their retirement age to 70. There is no more time for baby steps. We need literal heads on plates if we are even going to keep what we have now. Just remember, billionaires don’t change and they done give up power.

[-] Voroxpete@sh.itjust.works 8 points 3 days ago

If you divide the data into red states and blue states, you'll see that police killings have fallen in blue states, but risen in red states.

[-] Cocodapuf@lemmy.world 7 points 3 days ago
[-] Voroxpete@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 days ago

Did. Can't seem to find it in my link pile anymore. Take from that what you will. I'll update if I can find it.

[-] jpreston2005@lemmy.world 2 points 3 days ago

The article you didn't read?

[-] Cocodapuf@lemmy.world 2 points 3 days ago

The article that so many people have commented on having incomplete data?

[-] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 3 points 3 days ago

you’ll see that police killings have fallen in blue states

Does this include deaths in ICE detention centers?

[-] ZombiFrancis@sh.itjust.works 12 points 3 days ago

The growth in 'unknown' accounts for both the rise in armed and fall in unarmed.

The systemic problem was ignored, so it makes sense the only major change is more uncertainty.

[-] masterofn001@lemmy.ca 23 points 3 days ago

The definition of Armed needs some context.

Police are always armed. Does that meanwe should shoot them on sight?

[-] JcbAzPx@lemmy.world 4 points 3 days ago

Part of the increase is some forces' answer to accusations of racism were to start killing everyone (who is poor).

[-] eugenevdebs@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 3 days ago

"We don't need to defund the police, we need to fund the police!"

Huh I wonder why murders by police have gone up. Certainly not the fascist takeover of all levels of government.

[-] Gammelfisch@lemmy.world 4 points 3 days ago

Not surprised, the Orange Kool-Aid drinkers are also supplying police departments with more military grade equipment.

[-] queermunist@lemmy.ml 10 points 3 days ago

Looks like the police are more diligent about planting weapons on the people they kill.

[-] ABetterTomorrow@lemm.ee 9 points 3 days ago

Are gangs standing up for themselves again?

[-] ZeffSyde@lemmy.world 2 points 3 days ago

So... My odds of not being shot by a cop are better if I carry a replica gun, unless I'm reading this wrong.

[-] BenLeMan@lemmy.world 4 points 2 days ago

You're reading this wrong.

[-] cerement@slrpnk.net 6 points 3 days ago
  • s/Armed/Police claim were armed/
  • s/Unarmed/Police admit were unarmed/
[-] Hux@lemmy.ml 1 points 3 days ago

Ok, so the graph shows us how police killings have gone since George Floyd, but can we see a graph of police killings since George Floyd?

[-] Catoblepas 12 points 3 days ago

Why? It’s just going to be COVID and car wrecks being the main killers, like it is every year.

[-] eugenevdebs@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 3 days ago

Like 4 or so, which is nothing compared to how many people were killed by police.

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