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[-] boughtmysoul@lemmy.world 6 points 1 hour ago

When I asked him why he had gone through so much trouble to get to an Ivy League university only to off-load all of the learning to a robot, he said, “It’s the best place to meet your co-founder and your wife.”

Yikes.

[-] andxz@lemmy.world 1 points 18 minutes ago
[-] LanguageIsCool@lemmy.world 1 points 37 minutes ago

😮‍💨😮‍💨

[-] theblips@lemm.ee 2 points 1 hour ago

Honestly, just erase all graded homework, papers included. All of it. It wasn't even good at anything to begin with and we would just cheat off each other, but now it's even worse.

[-] canajac@lemmy.ca 6 points 2 hours ago

AI is not your enemy. It IS the future whether you like it or not. Your kids will benefit from AI in ways you cannot even imagine.

[-] theblips@lemm.ee 2 points 1 hour ago

True but a downvote magnet on Lemmy. But I would dispute the "benefit" part... What exactly is the benefit in not having to learn anything? Why would I even want to exist if not to be good at something and create something? It just seems like we're building towards stuff that's better than us at doing what WE want to do as a society. Thinking about chess here: why would I care about the best Stockfish moves in every line of my favorite opening if no one will ever be able to explain them?

[-] OsrsNeedsF2P@lemmy.ml 3 points 2 hours ago

Yes, but like mental math, it didn't go away when we introduced calculators, and there's a correlation between people who have those skills and income levels (which I'm using as a proxy for "usefulness"). The education system needs to adapt to assignments that students can't just paste into ChatGPT and call it a day- students need to keep spending effort learning.

[-] Zink@programming.dev 3 points 2 hours ago

Of course AI isn’t the enemy. The enemy is their corporate ownership.

But no doubt AI will be huge in the future, in the sense that “AI” basically means “much better computing capabilities than we have now.”

[-] surph_ninja@lemmy.world 10 points 2 hours ago

We’ve been needing to rework education for years now anyway. At least this will force the teachers to change & adapt, whether they like it or not.

[-] multifariace@lemmy.world 4 points 1 hour ago

Teachers are generally quite adaptable. We have asjustes for AI in our classrooms. We have adjuated to not teaching up to standards because we would be fined by our states for pushing some imaginary agenda. We have changed our entire curriculum the week before classes start because the County curriculum specialist had a bright idea.

The reality is that we have to navigate arbitrary law, we have to not do what's best for our classroom and teaching style because someone who hardly spent any time in a classroom thinks they know better. We have to do all this while being blamed for the behavior of students when their parents block the school phone numbers.

[-] DrollerCoaster@lemm.ee 3 points 2 hours ago

The key concern with reforming social programs like public education is that they are ongoing concerns with impacts that extend decades into the future. "Creative destruction" in public education is liable to cause far more harm than good if the transition is not handled with knowledge and care.

[-] surph_ninja@lemmy.world 1 points 1 hour ago

I think doing nothing, while this emerging tech obliterates the functioning of existing methods, is much more dangerous.

[-] DrollerCoaster@lemm.ee 2 points 23 minutes ago

My point is that doing "something" haphazardly is just as dangerous, if not more so, than doing nothing.

[-] melsaskca@lemmy.ca 39 points 5 hours ago

It's breathtaking how quickly the President of the United States and his good South African buddy can topple a superpower.

[-] CapriciousDay@lemmy.ml 12 points 4 hours ago

Don't worry they've defunded all of the bodies that might have compiled any fair statistics so they can deny the downfall for a few years.

[-] Epic@lemm.ee 1 points 2 hours ago

lol , piret getting robbed kind of situation we are in

[-] HexesofVexes@lemmy.world 12 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago)

Ah yes, goal misalignment at its finest.

The students need high grades to get a job, so they focus on ensuring that happens (AI use being the easy path).

The teachers have progression targets to meet, so they focus on ensuring this happens (keep the AI vulnerable assessments).

If you want to change a module as a teacher, good luck getting that work loaded when you should be implementing AI in your curriculum ^_^

[-] RaoulDook@lemmy.world 4 points 2 hours ago

AI is bullshit and has no place in a school curriculum outside of computer science. Keep that shit away from children if you want them to have any critical thinking skills.

[-] Modern_medicine_isnt@lemmy.world 4 points 3 hours ago

If success is determined by a metric, the metric will go up. Any relation to actual increase in value is coincidental. Lol. Long ago someone tried to incentivize programers by giving abonus per bug fixed. Didn't last long before they blew through the bonus budget and realized the programers were putting in bugs so they could fix them. (Urban legend really... probably)

[-] aidan@lemmy.world 3 points 5 hours ago

Maybe the best headline that's come out of the recent LLM explosion

[-] eugenevdebs@lemmy.dbzer0.com 59 points 13 hours ago
  • Teachers are overworked, underpaid, some still using course work that hasn't been updated in years despite what the field has advanced
  • Students go into college due to the social expectation, some even unsure of what to get into as a career or even a class
  • Exceeding above the course requirements does nothing for your GPA, an A that got a "110%" and an A that got 90% are the same.
  • Students failing or passing still rack up debt for this social expectation
  • Teachers still failing to pay bills for this social need

Yeah AI is the fault here, its not the system at large been fucked over since Reagan.

[-] UntitledQuitting@reddthat.com 15 points 9 hours ago

Well yeah the education system is the burning tire fire and AI is tech bros pouring gasoline all over it

[-] mycelium_underground@lemmy.world 3 points 5 hours ago

A fitting description, a big tire fire won't really change with the addition of gasoline, burning rubber has a lot of energy to release.

[-] Furbag@lemmy.world 29 points 13 hours ago

Imagine paying tens of thousands of dollars (probably of their parents saved money) to go to university and have a chatbot do the whole thing for you.

These kids are going to get spit out into a world where they will have no practical knowledge and no ability to critically think or adapt.

[-] TwigletSparkle 10 points 6 hours ago

This was true before AI, it's just going to be 10x worse with AI

[-] orcrist@lemm.ee 26 points 14 hours ago

Yes and no. Remember that rich kids could always hire ghost writers. ChatGPT made that available to the masses, but that particular problem goes back centuries.

What we have seen is that the curriculum is often decided by a distant committee who actually doesn't understand life on the ground. In reality, there are easy ways for teachers to undercut the utility of ChatGPT, if they have the freedom to make changes. But that depends on teachers having control and the time to make changes to how they teach.

[-] happydoors@lemm.ee 13 points 14 hours ago

Unfortunately, I think many kids could easily approach AI the same way older generations thought of math, calculators, and the infamous “you won’t have a calculator with you everywhere.” If I was a kid today and I knew I didn’t have to know everything because I could just look it up, instantly; I too would become quite lazy. Even if the AI now can’t do it, they are smart enough to know AI in 10 years will. I’m not saying this is right, but I see how many kids would end up there.

[-] Nalivai@lemmy.world 2 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago)

know AI in 10 years will.

That kind of the main problem: there is no indication that it will. I know one thing: current way LLM works, the chances that the problem of "lying" and "hallucinations", will even be solved are slim to none. There could be some mechanism that works in tandem with the bullshit generator machine to keep it in check, but it doesn't exist yet.
So most likely either we will collectively learn this fact and stop relying on this bullshit, which means there is a generation of kids who essentially skipped a learning phase, or we don't learn this fact, and there will be a society of mindless zombies that are fed lies and random bullshit on a second-to-second basis.
Both cases are bleak, but the second one is nightmarish.

[-] tehn00bi@lemmy.world 1 points 3 hours ago

It’s all based off of predictions, it has no concept of the physical world or the ability to understand facts. Its goal is to please the user, not parse the entirety of human knowledge and provide an insightful complete thought.

[-] end_stage_ligma@lemmy.world 3 points 5 hours ago

but we already have Fox News

[-] JackFrostNCola@lemmy.world 7 points 9 hours ago

This could be complete bullshit because im not an expert but i sometimes think that we could have a future where without testing and nurturing peoples critical thinking skills we end up with people who dont know how to create a rational argument or assess information they are given for its accuracy and authenticity, or to know when they are being deceived by malicious actors.

English writing assignments as simple as a book report require you to take different views and angles on something to understand it better and the nuances of the whole, but tell a LLM to write it for you and you are not developing that part of your own mind where you may learn to do things like see the whole story above the individual events noise, see things from others perspective/feelings and understand alternate world views. These are critical for having empathy for others and understanding the world around you.
And that is just one small example i came up with.

[-] gadfly1999@lemm.ee 2 points 3 hours ago

We are already there. Just look at the state of society right now and observe the critical thinking and media literacy skills of the average person.

In the words of cyberpunk author Wiilam Gibson: “The future is already here – it’s just not very evenly distributed.“

[-] tehn00bi@lemmy.world 1 points 3 hours ago

I always think about the Time Machine and the Eloi people. I really think that is the world we are headed towards. Basically creating a class of cattle brained people, and a class of super humans.

[-] Triasha@lemmy.world 1 points 5 hours ago

Brave New World? No, the rulers aren't that benevolent.

1984? Still no, they aren't that competent.

We are heading for fareinheit 451.

[-] tamal3@lemmy.world 42 points 18 hours ago

Unpopular opinion:

I am a public school teacher and I support public schools, but there have been a lot of issues with our education system for a long time. Talk to any kid with ADHD who had to sit through 12 years, and they are indicative of a larger problem. Our idea of school now is as a place that teaches kids to behave and mostly follow rote instruction. Wouldn't it be so much better if we were teaching kids to be creative thinkers, work well in groups, problem solve, and think critically about the information they're getting? We know that's what school should be, but maybe now we will be forced to go there. Yes, there will be issues like learned helplessness and certain skills being difficult to teach, but it's kind of exciting too.

Though it's also possible that public schools will close and only the wealthy kids will be well-educated... can we not, please?

[-] Triasha@lemmy.world 3 points 5 hours ago

"Though it’s also possible that public schools will close and only the wealthy kids will be well-educated… can we not, please?"

Trump and Republicans would like nothing more than to turn this country into another Russia where your kids have to pay through the nose go abroad to get a decent education.

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