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Tesla owners are modifying their cars to be escapable if the car catches fire, because the doors stop working like normal and you need to rely on well-hidden mechanical overrides.

Which... feels pretty dangerous, like that's the worst possible time for the doors to stop working like normal.

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[-] Hegar@fedia.io 98 points 1 week ago

The manual door open on some models of Teslas require removing 2 panels that are not labeled and need a diagram to know how to remove them. Another requires removing the speaker grill and pulling an unlabeled wire.

Even once the manual door release is pulled, without power you need a firefighter's upper body strength to open the door, and it's likely that flames and poisonous smoke will be coming up any tiny gap you can create by pushing open the door a little.

Just willful disregard of your customers' lives.

[-] pelespirit@sh.itjust.works 39 points 1 week ago

Honestly, this seems more like incompetence. They hired tech bros to make a car, not safety engineers. How these cars got through safety regulations is beyond me.

[-] halcyoncmdr@lemmy.world 43 points 1 week ago

Simple, the regulations don't talk about any of that shit.

US road regulations are a blend of smart, fucking stupid, and just plain missing regulations.

The fact any current "standard" pickup trucks are allowed on the road despite nearly half the population being short enough that they can't see over the hood is just one of the most obvious examples that the US road regulations are pointless to try and make sense of.

[-] AtariDump@lemmy.world 29 points 1 week ago
[-] Cocodapuf@lemmy.world 13 points 1 week ago

Now, guess which of those two vehicles is regularly used for anything that actually requires a truck bed vs which of those is used to pick up kids from school.

[-] Cocodapuf@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

This all sounds mostly right to me. But the regulations aren't pointless, they're just incomplete. I'm still quite happy that we have these protections.

And also, you tend to only get regulations on issues after they've proven to be a problem. It's like warning labels, if you see a label that says "don't put your hand here" it may be because someone did once, and it was bad.

So with that in mind, there hasn't previously been any need for regulations on door handles that don't work without power, because it's never been an issue before. Now that we see a need for that kind of regulation, we may see it go onto the books. Now it's true that we shouldn't have to spell that kind of thing out in legislation, but (and I can't stress this enough) people can be very dumb...

[-] Draegur@lemm.ee 10 points 1 week ago

I've been saying this a lot lately because it seems like arc words for the zeitgeist we're living through but good gods above and below it just keeps being relevant:

Any sufficiently advanced incompetence is indistinguishable from malice.

When shit's this stupid, it doesn't matter whether they meant it or not...

[-] pelespirit@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 week ago

Point taken.

[-] iAvicenna@lemmy.world 11 points 1 week ago

no they probably want you to die after the accident so that you can't tell people how the auto drive feature drove you into the building

[-] ZILtoid1991@lemmy.world 8 points 1 week ago

But how else would Tesla sell futurism to its customers? Door handles and keys are old tech, we need 21st century tech, at all cost!

[-] jaybone@lemmy.zip 39 points 1 week ago
[-] KayLeadfoot@fedia.io 10 points 1 week ago

OH NO I LOLLED

[-] ThePowerOfGeek@lemmy.world 24 points 1 week ago

At this point I don't know why anyone is buying those death-traps. For me any benefit from the self-driving feature is outweighed by the safety and poor build quality issues.

[-] Chozo@fedia.io 13 points 1 week ago

I don't know why anyone is buying those death-traps.

I've got good news, then! Fewer and fewer people are buying the illegal immigrant's dangerous and overpriced swastikar, with new buyers dropping and trade-ins rising every day as public support for the emerald mine nepo baby nazi dwindles daily.

[-] halcyoncmdr@lemmy.world 7 points 1 week ago

Instead they're buying F150s and the like that are just as dangerous to everyone else on or near the road.

[-] Eric_Pollock@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 1 week ago

I recently got a Volkswagen with adaptive cruise control, and I'm absolutely in love with it. Never needed the car to fully drive itself, that's what public transport is for...

[-] XeroxCool@lemmy.world 5 points 1 week ago

Because risk is statistically low and fuel cost savings are more tangible than believing you're going to crash, let alone die. Humans are not logical. We know most conservatives don't believe in EVs and outright liberals don't want to support Musk, so who keeps buying them? Despite the reports of slumping sales, my area is continually renewing them despite being deeply blue. There's another category: the real silent majority. The apathetic majority that's being selfish and diminishing the weight of their actions.

[-] Reverendender@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 week ago

“Selfish” implies they somehow gain something by purchasing one of these death traps.

[-] XeroxCool@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago

Minimal fuel and maintenance fees. Flashy iPad in the dash. Quiet ride. Pretty good acceleration. I say fuck Tesla at this point because Elon just couldn't stay quiet and just couldn't stay reasonable with the product, but Tesla is the brand that put EVs Into the common household.

[-] Sporkbomber@lemm.ee 3 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Take a look at comma.ai and openpilot to see whether your car is compatible. I've put about 100k miles on my comma running on my Honda Civic. Then you get a working car that's not a deathtrap and improved self driving features.

[-] MotoAsh@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago

You're not missing anything on the self driving side... Teslas only use cameras, so can never and will never actually be self-driving. Not competently, anyways.

[-] ImADifferentBird 22 points 1 week ago

I recently went car shopping, and I had considered an EV. I told someone this, and she immediately started recommending Tesla to me, despite Elon's bullshit. She tried to tell me that Elon's insanity doesn't change that Tesla is the "best product in the space".

I have to admit, Elon's bullshit was a big factor in not even giving Tesla the time of day, but there's also issues just like this one. I do not want a car that prioritizes gee-whiz geegaws over basic safety like this.

[-] coaxil@lemm.ee 19 points 1 week ago

Having now driven basically all the EV vehicles available in my country, from the byd range to Hyundai, Nissan and Tesla, Tesla is just a straight mess of a vehicle by comparison, and don't even get me started on the Tesla indicator thing. Oh and they feel cheap on the inside, even the plaid and other high end ones. Lol

[-] ImADifferentBird 3 points 1 week ago

Yeah, I ended up going with a Hyundai. I take delivery on it later this week, and I can't wait.

[-] kkj@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 1 week ago

I think she just added an extra word. Tesla does make the best electric car that is currently in space, because none of the other manufacturers have shot one up there yet.

[-] RickC137@lemmy.world 17 points 1 week ago
[-] Madison420@lemmy.world 12 points 1 week ago

That's just for a few models and just on the front two doors, the rear you have to remove a panel you also have to know exists because it's not marked in hivis. The fun one is that Tesla says you break your warranty if you actually use any of the manual releases including the y's really accessible front one.

[-] RickC137@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago

Front and back directly accessible for model 3 and y.

Used it. Can't tell if it was used, so warranty still intact.

[-] Madison420@lemmy.world 5 points 1 week ago

https://www.tesla.com/ownersmanual/model3/en_us/GUID-A7A60DC7-E476-4A86-9C9C-10F4A276AB8B.html

No they're not. The front and rear are almost identical procedures to both the cyber truck and the y.

Also yes they can, they're built tamper evident for warranty reasons.

[-] RickC137@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago

You're right. In the new models they changed the rear doors. In the older models it is the same as front.

Bad design choice. Should be easier to get out in an emergency.

[-] Tolookah@discuss.tchncs.de 16 points 1 week ago

You need to grab the ripcord with your right hand, conveniently placed above the heart, and thrust it forward and up.

[-] Reverendender@sh.itjust.works 14 points 1 week ago

I would not expect US auto regulations to improve for at least 3.5 years, minimum.

[-] iAvicenna@lemmy.world 13 points 1 week ago

if only there was an easier way of not getting trapped in a car...

[-] cyberpunk007@lemmy.ca 8 points 1 week ago

Yeah but that's really hard to do and has never been invented before!

[-] betterdeadthanreddit@lemmy.world 11 points 1 week ago
[-] andybytes@programming.dev 10 points 1 week ago

These stupid cucks...

[-] BadlyTimedLuck@lemmy.world 8 points 1 week ago

Huh, this reminded me of Five Nights at Freddy's and how even with murderous robots around, there is a safety precaution where the doors open incase power goes out.

[-] andybytes@programming.dev 6 points 1 week ago

Worship a Nazi get cooked in a oven. Justice is always served. Thank God, all men die.

[-] Zak@lemmy.world 5 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

I've driven a couple cars with electronic door poppers and I'm having trouble understanding why anybody would want them. The novelty of accomplishing a routine task by pressing an electronic button instead of pulling a mechanical lever should have worn off in 1985.

[-] FuglyDuck@lemmy.world 7 points 1 week ago

Most cars have an electro-mechanical lock; with a physical connection between the interior door pull and the lock that pulls the bolt back if you’re trying to get out.

This is an industry standard safety feature, and has been for decades.

Tesla, in their infinite TechBro Douchiness decided they knew better than the entire car industry and took that out. Their locked are electrically activated.

Also?

Because of the risk of electrocution, and fires caused by snorts, Teslas turn off the power if it detects a crash.

Fortunately, regulations require that cars sold in the US have a mechanical release somewhere accessible from the inside.

Unfortunately for Tesla drivers, Musk doesn’t care about their customers dying in their cars and have opted to make it both non-obvious as to where it is, and frequently actually-hard to activate in an emergency.

This is why a few people have died inside Tesla car fires- being unable to get out.

The response by consumers is for them to add pull-thingies to make it obvious and simple. Like most models, it’s hidden under panels or carpet. Now imagine removing those panels when you’re freaking out because your car is on fire and doing something you’ve almost certainly never practiced.

(This lack of safety conscious design is one of the biggest reasons I will never drive a Tesla.)

[-] randomblock1@lemmy.world 5 points 1 week ago

It's probably easier to get one of those ceramic window breakers and get out that way. I'm pretty sure the rip cords are actually quite hard to pull.

[-] skuzz@discuss.tchncs.de 11 points 1 week ago

They use laminate glass on the side windows as well as windshield on some models for noise reduction. Traditional window breaking tools don't work on them. It's basically a tombmobile.

[-] randomblock1@lemmy.world 6 points 1 week ago

Wow holy shit. So if you get submerged it's just straight up a death sentence. Just when you think they can't get worse...

Do they have one for the passenger(s)? And give a little safety briefing before they head out like on airplanes?

[-] ABetterTomorrow@lemm.ee 2 points 1 week ago

Fire? What about the ticking time bomb batteries under you?

[-] Matt3999@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago

Another reason not to buy a Tesla

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