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Martin believes everyone should have access to free quality software.

Thanks so much🙏

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[-] runner_g 31 points 1 day ago

Also shouting out Krita as a Photoshop alternative for digital painting, digital art.

https://krita.org/en/

[-] Nangijala@feddit.dk 4 points 1 day ago

How is its CMYK profiles in your opinion?

[-] Korhaka@sopuli.xyz 62 points 1 day ago

You don't lose money when people use a competitors service/product over yours. That money wasn't yours to lose.

[-] khaleer@sopuli.xyz 14 points 1 day ago

Yet, the companies cry about losing money due to online piracy. At this point it's eĹştremally funny

[-] aeternum 4 points 1 day ago

for me, anyway, they didn't lose money because if i couldn't pirate it, I just wouldn't watch. I'm told this is a common thought process

[-] Prior_Industry@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

"If I couldn't easily grab it off the table and walk away with it ,I wouldn't have stolen it."

Screw the media companies for the price gouging and being general dicks dragging people through the courts, but it's still knowingly working around and accessing content that someone else paid to create. I dunno why people can't be honest "I did it because it was easy and the chances of being caught were nominal. The risk / reward was in my favour".

[-] dzsimbo@lemm.ee 3 points 11 hours ago
[-] aeternum 7 points 1 day ago

it's not theft if you can't legally own it. They willingly change the TOS to say that you're basically renting it, and they can take it away for any reason, at any time. If they can take away something I paid money for, it's not wrong to pirate it.

[-] Prior_Industry@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago

That's a different argument though. If you have paid for a license to the content and they remove the distribution method or kill the drm that allows access to it. I'd say it's fair game that you find an "alternative" copy of the content or work around to keep access to what you paid for. Unless you are knowingly buying it on a 1 off rental basis.

Don't get me wrong, the current system is not weighted in the consumers favour at all and it's a good reason to not play the game and avoid netflix, buy drm free computer games, etc but I just object to the argument the people who pirate are somehow noble robinhoods in a legally sound position. You're still knowingly accessing something that someone paid to create and you're gaining a benefit from that in entertainment. You're just finding a way to justify doing so that sits right with your own moral code.

If everyone pirated, the entertainment industry would cease to exist or at least be greatly reduced the remaining people would only be doing it as a hobby. Big budget moves and TV series, AAA computer games would no longer find funding if no one at the consumer end is paying for it.

[-] Threeme2189@sh.itjust.works 9 points 1 day ago

Tell that to all of the monopolies that have totally captured a market segment.

[-] illumrial@lemmy.world 18 points 1 day ago

People like him are why I still have hope in tech. May the machine bless him eternally.

[-] iampivot@lemmy.world 11 points 1 day ago

It seems just fitting that he wears a hat that you need bezier curves to draw perfectly with vector graphics!

[-] my_hat_stinks@programming.dev 456 points 2 days ago

I disagree with that framing, someone not buying your shit is not the same as you losing money. Inkscape saved millions for graphic designers, which is very different. Adobe was not entitled to that money, you can't lose something that was never yours.

[-] madame_gaymes@programming.dev 185 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Subtle distinction, but actually pretty huge. I agree with you. Companies also use this to say that pirating is stealing, when they never had the business in the first place.

[-] victorz@lemmy.world 41 points 2 days ago

Exactly. I'm pirating because I can't afford to pay hundreds of dollars each month to watch all the movies and shows that I do. If I didn't have the opportunity to pirate, I still wouldn't afford it legitimately...

[-] madame_gaymes@programming.dev 20 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

It's also a great way to demo games and other software if you can afford it before you waste money on something that has no value to you. This is especially useful when you're on a tight budget.

[-] Steve@startrek.website 21 points 2 days ago

Just put in your credit card for the 7 day trial! Totally easy to cancel, pinky promise

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[-] Vakbrain@lemmy.dbzer0.com 70 points 2 days ago

"I bought a lottery ticket and didn't win. I lost 50 millions dollars!"

  • adobe
[-] bitcrafter@programming.dev 21 points 2 days ago

You are right, of course, but I personally draw a great of pleasure from imaging the CEO of Adobe screaming, "CURSE YOU MARTIN OWENS!!!"

[-] SARGE@startrek.website 21 points 2 days ago

I had exactly 0 intention of ever buying anything from Adobe.

Inkscape gave me an alternative to the high seas. And it happens to do everything I need it to, although it's way more powerful than the simple vector graphics conversions I use it for.

10/10, Adobe never lost money from me getting Inkscape. They lost the game before they knew I was a player.

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[-] MonkderVierte@lemmy.ml 12 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Lost dollars because of free software and lost dollars because of piracy are both imaginary numbers.

[-] reksas@sopuli.xyz 113 points 1 day ago

those dollars were not adobe's to lose but users' to save

[-] MehBlah@lemmy.world 28 points 1 day ago

This is the heart of the matter. You can't lose what you never had.

[-] baltakatei@sopuli.xyz 11 points 1 day ago

FYI, their Mastodon account is here.

[-] endeavor@sopuli.xyz 8 points 1 day ago

Ive used both inskape and illustrator and inkscape is better and has been better ux wise since day 1 for me.

[-] dual_sport_dork@lemmy.world 92 points 2 days ago

I am a Corel kind of bird myself, having used it both professionally (which is how I got started with it) and at home for a couple of decades now. I will say two things about that:

In its current version Inkscape is roughly on par with were CorelDraw was in its 4.0 state or thereabouts (which I still have a copy of, on like seventeen 3.5" floppy disks!) which sounds like damning with faint praise but it really isn't considering that Inkscape costs nothing to use.

However, one factor that I think most people don't think about is that Inkscape is currently the best software I've ever used, bar none, for ripping apart .pdf documents made by other software, for the purposes of monkeying with their contents. And that's a ten story tall flaming middle finger to Adobe, and completely obviates the need for 99.9999999% of all users to ever have to pay for the "pro" version of Adobe Acrobat or whatever they're calling it this week just to be able to made minor adjustments to a .pdf.

[-] NotMyOldRedditName@lemmy.world 22 points 2 days ago

I had no idea Inkscape could work with PDFs like that. Thank you!

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[-] kittenzrulz123 52 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

I appreciate him very much, OSS maintainers and devs dont get enough praise. Also I dont get the intense entitlement some people have towards unpaid OSS devs and mainatiners, they think that they somehow deserve a product equal to that of a corporate offering while not offering any money or code.

[-] deaf_fish@lemm.ee 29 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

It's because they haven't thought about it.

They're so used to the paradigm. I pay money. I get product. I get support.

So when they get the product but they don't pay money, their brain short circuits and thinks they deserve some kind of support.

In a capitalistic world, communistic projects are confusing. Which is sad.

[-] mic_check_one_two@lemmy.dbzer0.com 21 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

People equate “cost” with “value”. If something has no cost, it has no value. There’s an old story about computer mice that is apt. An electronics store sells computer mice. Some are expensive, some are cheap. The store has found that one specific mouse is really really reliable. Some of the more expensive mice get constant warranty returns or RMA requests. But not this one mouse. This one mouse is built well, feels good, and works great. Every single desk in the store is using one of these mice. And this specific mouse also happens to be extremely cheap. As in, one of the cheapest that the store carries.

Sales floor employees struggle to sell it, even when they personally use it every day and know it’s a superior product, because customers see the low price and assume it is a low quality product. The customers are directly equating cost with value. And so the store manager does something sort of backwards. They increase the price of the mouse, to be around the same price as the others. Suddenly, this specific mouse is flying off of the shelves. People are now seeing the high price, and assuming that means the mouse is good.

Another place you experience this is when helping your family with tech support. Every single IT worker has experienced the “you updated Chrome on my computer six months ago, and now it’s broken. You broke my computer” complaint from a tech-illiterate relative. They see a friend or relative with a computer issue, they know how to solve said issue, they try to be helpful, and it blows back on them when the computer breaks in the distant future. This is largely because the IT person didn’t charge said friend or family member for their services.

In grandma’s eyes, your tech support service were free, so it has no value. You can’t be trusted as a real IT person, because your services are free. Charging a small “friends and family discount” type of thing actually cements in their mind that you do this for a living. You literally do this professionally. Even if you’re only charging them $5 for an hour of work, when you normally get paid $50 per hour. Again, you can call it the friends and family discount if you need to. But by charging them something, all of those “you broke my computer” complaints suddenly dry up. Because now you’re not just the grandson who plays with computers; you’re a professional in a specialized trade. You know what you’re doing, so it couldn’t have been your fault that the computer broke. It’s not really a friends and family discount; it’s a “stop blaming me when you download viruses” fee.

[-] NightShot@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago

Thank you Martin and Inkscape-team!

[-] hitagi@ani.social 13 points 1 day ago

He has a Samson Meteor microphone. Same as mine. He is cool in my book :D

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[-] Wispy2891@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

Inkscape is good but it can't replace illustrator, especially for the needs of someone willing to pay $1000/year for it

Maybe the affinity suite is more appropriate (ROI in just 2 months of adobe subscription)

[-] lillo@lemmy.sdf.org 22 points 1 day ago

Kudos to Mr. Owens and all Inkscape developers. Inkscape is a masterpiece.

[-] twt@lemmy.world 17 points 1 day ago

The only time I used Adobe Illustrator was when it was brand new, in 1987. I may have used early versions of Photoshop, but never as my "daily driver." So I might not be the most knowledgeable about Adobe software.

But the thing I MOST resent Adobe for was buying and killing Macromedia... I really really liked Macromedia Fireworks (raster, vector, and object graphics editor). Fireworks could do a lot of the things Adobe software could for a fraction of the price AND without having to use multiple applications to get the job done.

Inkscape is remarkable, and maybe someday someone will merge some raster image object tools into it, and then it might begin to resemble the Fireworks of 20 years ago when Adobe killed it.

[-] glibg@lemmy.ca 18 points 1 day ago

Hitchhikers Guide on the bookshelf, nice.

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[-] S_H_K@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

I'm not a pro but do some shit from time to time. Between Inkscape and Gimp I never needed anything else for images. If only Gimp had better tools for animated gifs... still serviceable tho haven't tried the new Gimp yet.

[-] owenfromcanada@lemmy.ca 30 points 2 days ago

Inkscape is one of my favorite applications out there. I use it almost daily, both for my day job and hobbies. Thanks Martin!

[-] peoplebeproblems@midwest.social 21 points 2 days ago

Open source software does not cause a loss of $ it causes everyone else gain.

[-] Crashumbc@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

So the website is super summy, finally found the "real" download button which took me to the MS app store. Ok fine, but now its been 10 minutes and it actually hasn't started downloading yet...

[-] runner_g 10 points 1 day ago

Are you sure you are at https://inkscape.org/ ?

Last time I downloaded it ~1 year ago I don't remember any hoops I had to jump through.

[-] Guidy@lemmy.world 1 points 20 hours ago

Can confirm, your link worked great, was able to directly download the installer. Thank you!

[-] OmnipresentDonut123@lemmy.world 16 points 2 days ago

Inkscape is goated and so is Martin, respect 🫡

[-] Treczoks@lemmy.world 8 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Thank you, Mr. Owens. From the bottom of my heart. InkScape is my favourite graphics tool.

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