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[-] Mexigore@lemmy.world 30 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

She said on social media some days or weeks before that if anything happens to her or her family, her ex-bf was to blame. And I think he is cartel. At least this is the info I read on other comments on different platforms.

First statement was said by a lot of different comments. Second was only from one other comment I saw.

[-] KuroiKaze@lemmy.world 13 points 1 day ago

Just watched the vid on insta. She looks right at the man not recognizing him so I assume it's a hit. Two shots I can see, one in the chest, one in the head, very professional.

[-] flamingo_pinyata@sopuli.xyz 88 points 1 day ago

When there's a murder in Mexico, the first guess is always cartels

[-] Bytemeister@lemmy.world 39 points 1 day ago

Meanwhile, murder in America, and my first guess is elementary school.

[-] Witchfire@lemmy.world 3 points 22 hours ago* (last edited 22 hours ago)

Murder in Transylvania, my first guess is vampires

Or sometimes sweet transvestites

[-] djvinniev77@lemmy.ca 2 points 22 hours ago

Murder on the dance floor..but you better not kill the groove..

[-] PbNews@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago

She definitely didn't deserve this

[-] anubis119@lemmy.world 49 points 1 day ago

No suspect+no motive=femicide? Did I miss something?

[-] db0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 78 points 1 day ago

Unless there's a gang relations or a spurned partner, the only explanation for this sort of thing is a rabid fan which kinda aligns with femicide.

[-] Flemmy@lemm.ee 19 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

There is/was this netflix serie "You" not that bad but it kind of portrays the dark side of cyberstalking.

[-] Zahille7@lemmy.world 62 points 1 day ago

Is there a light side to stalking of any kind?

[-] Randomgal@lemmy.ca 8 points 1 day ago

It makes you feel special uwu

[-] Flemmy@lemm.ee 13 points 1 day ago

Not really no. But in the moment meant when it leads to followers roaming your front door and stuff. I wish innocent fans understand the implications of a stranger waiting for you to wake up.

[-] futatorius@lemm.ee 11 points 1 day ago

They're often far from innocent. I know someone, an honest, well-known person in a controversial field, who has been cyber-stalked by several conspiracy whackjobs who came to his door and made death threats. He had to hire 24/7 security.

[-] kadup@lemmy.world 11 points 1 day ago

Back when I was a Reddit moderator, somebody posted literal child pornography on our casual conversation subreddit. It got caught by AutoModerator, but I gave him the final ban, and Reddit's admins purged the account soon after.

Guess who stalked me for three years.

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[-] ohwhatfollyisman@lemmy.world 19 points 1 day ago

Police arrived at the scene around 18:30 local time (12:30 GMT)

that doesn't add up. did they mean 00:30 GMT?

[-] moody@lemmings.world 13 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Yeah, they meant midnight GMT.

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[-] lennivelkant@discuss.tchncs.de 6 points 1 day ago

Probably did -6 instead of +6

[-] robocall@lemmy.world 35 points 1 day ago

What's the difference between femicide and domestic violence? Serious question

[-] Hegar@fedia.io 73 points 1 day ago

Domestic violence is within a family, especially spouses, femicide is "when women and girls are killed because of their gender", to quote the article.

[-] 30p87@feddit.org 22 points 1 day ago

And how do you know that it had anything to do with their gender? Asking because I see many people call random murders, or rather anything that was not a multi-kill, femicides.

[-] EndlessNightmare@reddthat.com 4 points 1 day ago

Sex-selective infanticide, as seen under a one-child policy regime, would be a more clear-cut example of femicide.

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[-] Fondots@lemmy.world 39 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Domestic violence is violence that occurs between people who have a domestic relationship- family members, roommates, romantic/sexual partners, etc. It may or may not rise to the level of murder.

Femicide is killing a woman due to her gender, and there may or may not be a domestic relationship between the killer and the victim.

There's going to be a lot of overlap and grey areas between the two. Many femicides are domestics, but not all, and not all domestics result in femicide

To provide some examples

1. Sort of your "classic" domestic abuse situation- man beats his wife. Domestic abuse, not a femicide because he's not killing her.

1.5 He beats her to death. Domestic, and this may ruffle some feathers, but I'm going to say only probably a femicide. I'm sure I'm going to end up saying something like this a lot in this comment and expand on it as I go, but you kind of have to examine the killers thoughts and motivations, and they may not always be totally clear. In probably the vast majority of these kinds of situations you'd probably find there's sort of an underlying attitude of "I'm the man, she's the woman, so I can do whatever I want to her" to one degree or another which would make it a pretty cut-and-dry femicide, but I think there's also cases where he might be just as violent and abusive to other people regardless of gender given the opportunity, which muddies the waters and makes it a little harder to call a femicide, if he was just as likely to kill a man under similar circumstances I don't know if it necessarily warrants slapping the "femicide" label on it, but it sure as hell looks like one on the surface. I suspect that most places collecting and studying data on this kind of thing would just go ahead and call it a femicide and I'm not going to blame them for that, I don't think there's any feasible way to really examine each individual incident with the kind of attention you'd need to properly sort it out, and even if you could, in the end given the sorts of cultural imbalances between men and women that exist, you'd probably end up with the conclusion that the basically all of them do in fact qualify as femicide to some degree and the rest are just kind of a rounding error.

2. Religious extremists kill a woman they see out on the street because (take your pick, she wasn't dressed "appropriately," didn't have a male guardian with her, she dared to have a job or education, etc.) That's a femicide, but not a domestic because there was no relationship between them.

As an aside, there was a conscious decision on my part in that example to use the gender-neutral "they" in that example. You probably pictured male murderers, I did as well, but on further reflection I think it would be perfectly fair to still call it a femicide even if the perpetrators were women. The victim is still being targeted because she's a woman who's not behaving the way they think a woman should.

3. Woman kills her husband. Domestic, murder, not a femicide because the victim was a man.

4. (Here's where shit really starts getting murky.) Man kills his wife because she was having an affair with another man. Again it's a domestic, it's a murder, and its maybe/probably a femicide. It's a bit harder to nail down the motivation here. There could be a lot of underlying psychological, cultural, interpersonal, etc. baggage here. Did the man kill her just because she was cheating, or does he have, for example, some sort of underlying expectations that because she's the female partner she's supposed to be loyal and subservient to him. I don't know that there's an easy way to untangle that, and many men may not even really be consciously aware of those sorts of biases they have in the back of their minds. If hypothetically the man way gay/bit/pan/etc. would he have murdered a male partner in the same sort of situation?

5. Wife kills her husband's mistress. Murder. Kind of a domestic, maybe stretching it a bit because unless he was cheating on her with her sister or something there's not really a direct domestic relationship between the two women, but there is still an indirect link between them through the husband. Femicide? Again, maybe, for pretty much the same reasons as #4, lots of potential baggage there that would need to be unpacked.

5½. Man kills his cheating wife AND/OR wife's mistress ~(wife was cheating on him with another woman.)~ Murder✓ Domestic? See above. Femicide? Maybe, again see above, but there's also potentially an added aspect of "she cheated on me with another woman?" That, in his mind, adds extra insult to just the fact that she was cheating on him, would he have been so quick to jump to Murder if she had cheated on him with a man?

5¾? Woman kills her wife AND/OR her wife's mistress. Murder- yes. Domestic - see above. Femicide - again see above, probably not a femicide, I think in this one since we're dealing with a lesbian relationship we've kind of reached a point where we'd kind of expect a lot of "traditional" ideas about gender roles and such to be thrown out the window which would sort of take the concept of femicide off the table, but in practice that shit is really deeply ingrained in a lot of people and hard for them to shake entirely. There can still be some lingering notions that "a woman should be faithful to their partner" that they wouldn't apply equally to men, and so you could make a solid argument for it qualifying as femicide.

6. Man rapes and kills woman jogging alone in the park. Murder? Yes. Domestic? No, no relationship between them. Femicide? Almost certainly yes. I'm sure there could be some edge cases of a rapist lurking in the bushes who would be happy to target the next person who came jogging down the trail regardless of their gender, but far more often they probably specifically were preying on women.

7. Man kills woman in a carjacking. Murder? Yes. Domestic? No. Femicide? Maybe. This could be a situation where they literally just carjacked the first person in a vehicle they come across, so not a femicide, it could have just as easily been a man. Or it could be a case where they specifically targeted a woman because they perceived her as being weaker, easier to victimize, less able to defend herself, etc. which I think would make a compelling argument to call it a femicide.

That's not meant to be an all-inclusive list by any means of course.

And there's a lot of complicating factors we could go into that I'll be honest, I don't feel like digging into too deep right now and I may hit the character limit if I tried to. Like how trans and nonbinary people fit into the equation, to give a short example a transphobic person kills a trans man who they "see" as a woman, you might say that they had "femicidal intent" or something to that effect, even though the victim was a man, and if they killed a trans woman, their motivations might not have been femicidal, and in their own minds they wouldn't think they committed femicide, but to the rest of us they committed femicide anyway.

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[-] RevolverSly@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

You guys think this is the start of some "pop-culture disgust" killing spree? Like in God Bless America [2011]

[-] LarmyOfLone@lemm.ee 4 points 1 day ago

In the article they say it's likely a femicide, gender based violence. Misogyny is hatred of women - especially when they are not obedient or leave a man. So nothing really new.

What is new is social media and neoliberal control for profit, and a complete lack of accountability and moderation to stem the tide of hate speech.

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