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[-] volvoxvsmarla@lemm.ee 114 points 1 month ago

And then the people all clapped and patted themselves on the back for saving the guy and went about their day. But the guy went back to the same life full of problems that led him to despair. Crippling debt or depression. Estrangement from loved ones that are no longer willing to reconnect. Loneliness or defamation or disease. It's easy to save someone from jumping, but this is not help. That is not the help they need. They need constant and long term help, assistance, and support.

Saving a stranger from a suicide attempt has a vibe to it like preventing an abortion from happening without providing any further support for the mother or the child. Congrats, you saved a life, technically. But you did nothing to save the life.

[-] Lyra_Lycan 30 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

This is why I dislike people who stop suicides. It's their choice and their right. Mind your business, asshole

Ironically though, the ones who are driven to suicide are often the ones you want to keep around. The ones who cause the pain should be removed from our world

[-] Emerald@lemmy.world 21 points 1 month ago

What I think would be most ethical if I saw someone about to commit suicide by jumping (or other means) would just be to use my words to talk with them but not physically stop them.

[-] Gismonda@lemmy.world 16 points 1 month ago

I’m grateful someone stopped my daughter’s suicide.

[-] perishthethought@lemm.ee 11 points 1 month ago

Same. My child texted "goodbye" to his friends and they saved him. OC, maybe you'd feel different if the suicide was a loved one, who didn't tell you how they felt? Fuck any other outcome in my case.

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[-] Snowclone@lemmy.world 25 points 1 month ago

There's a chance someone else in that crowd understood and began taking daily time to interact with the man. It's not impossible.

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[-] arrow74@lemm.ee 19 points 1 month ago

No you dumbass they are going to be sent to get help.

Nearly everyone that attempts suicide and survives regrets trying and are glad they've failed.

Sorry for my strong language, but I've had friends and loved ones struggle with mental illness. A few have attempted suicide and either failed or have been stopped. I once took a friend's gun the day before he tried to commit suicide. If I had not done that he would be dead today, but today he is happy. He has a life worth living and is doing infinitely better.

Suicide attempts are a mental health crisis. In that moment that person is not of a sound mind and incapable of making that decision.

This is nothing like going to a doctor and seeking a medical procedure like an abortion. If anything this is like a woman throwing herself down the stairs in an attempt to end a pregnancy. They don't need to be allowed to throw themselves down the stairs. They need to be stopped and given access to proper medical care.

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[-] jia_tan 89 points 1 month ago

Damn the guy must have felt terrible in that moment.

[-] superniceperson@sh.itjust.works 59 points 1 month ago

Well yeah you finally have the knowledge that this earth isn't worth living in and finally overcame your body's built in instinct to not die, and some assholes literally force you to stay alive by grabbing onto you like nearly every depiction of hell or hades that has ever existed including tying you to the bridge with ropes.

[-] jia_tan 45 points 1 month ago

From a suicidal persons pov that’s exactly what I imagine that would feel like. Also the insane amount of embarrassment from a huge crowd of people that are all there because of you. Some of whom are probably “it’s all in your head” kind of people. It is hard enough to open up and show your feelings to one trusted person, let alone an effin crowd.

That said, the guy that they saved can now say “F you and see you tomorrow” so that’s something.

[-] neidu3@sh.itjust.works 18 points 1 month ago

Fuck you. But I'd save you anyway.

[-] Lyra_Lycan 16 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

I bet they chatted shit to him about their god as well

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[-] andros_rex@lemmy.world 82 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Then, after you get “saved” from suicide, they strip you of your rights and shove you in a cell for up to five days.

And that attitude is what the staff will have towards you. You are there to be punished for daring to be suicidal and trying to reject the gift of life. You’ll probably lose your job after the hospital stay, and then get stuck with thousands in bills for the “treatment” (sitting in a room watching day time tv while you listen to people in psychosis or dementia getting the shit beaten out of them by the staff.)

But this is a good thing! It’s so much better to be alive then not dead, that’s why we need to abuse suicidal people!

[-] coldasblues@sh.itjust.works 32 points 1 month ago

No no, you don't get it. You have to suicide the slow American way with cancer and heart disease. Pick your favorite form of socially acceptable self mutilation today!

[-] Tja@programming.dev 28 points 1 month ago
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[-] brognak@lemm.ee 11 points 1 month ago

Yepo. I was on a 72hr hold after a manic episode caused by a med interaction (Wellbutrin, took away the mild depression but let the massive anxiety run wild) and it was the worst fucking experience of my life. Literally just stick you in a program that doesn't give a fuck about why your there, just headcount they can bill for. I was perfectly fine like 2hrs after I got locked in and spent the remaining 70hrs climbing the walls.

0/10 Do not recommend. And this was in Massachusetts, a place wildly known for good healthcare.

[-] andros_rex@lemmy.world 17 points 1 month ago

I’m in Oklahoma. I went in voluntary a few months ago for suicidal ideation (which I think is a rational reaction to the events of November…)

They upgraded me to involuntary illegally (like, a single therapist accused me of lying when I said I was no longer suicidal, and made the call to hold me.) I had vape smoke blown in my face, was misgendered and assaulted by staff.

I won’t call 988 or any service like that ever. There is no accountability or safety here

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[-] TheLastOfHisName@lemmy.world 77 points 1 month ago

Nobody asks to be brought into this world. You should be allowed to determine when you've had enough.

[-] MyDarkestTimeline01@ani.social 40 points 1 month ago

No. You stay. Suffer alongside us. No one clocks out early.

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[-] FinishingDutch@lemmy.world 54 points 1 month ago

Ohh, my turn to post this classic:

The view from halfway down - Alison Tafel 

The weak breeze whispers nothing
the water screams sublime.
His feet shift, teeter-totter
deep breaths, stand back, it’s time.

Toes untouch the overpass
soon he’s water-bound.
Eyes locked shut but peek to see
the view from halfway down.

A little wind, a summer sun
a river rich and regal.
A flood of fond endorphins
brings a calm that knows no equal.

You’re flying now, you see things
much more clear than from the ground.
It's all okay, or it would be
were you not now halfway down.

Thrash to break from gravity
what now could slow the drop?
All I’d give for toes to touch
the safety back at top.

But this is it, the deed is done
silence drowns the sound.
Before I leaped I should've seen
the view from halfway down.

I really should’ve thought about
the view from halfway down.
I wish I could've known about
the view from halfway down—

[-] garbagebagel@lemmy.world 11 points 1 month ago

And now I want to watch bojack again

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[-] ChaoticNeutralCzech@feddit.org 39 points 1 month ago

My intrusive thoughts vs my procrastination

(Yes, I do go to therapy)

[-] DasFaultier@sh.itjust.works 18 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

(Yes, I do go to therapy)

Good for you, srsly. All the best for you, we're rooting for you!

[-] untakenusername@sh.itjust.works 34 points 1 month ago

this comment section might be insane

[-] psx_crab@lemmy.zip 15 points 1 month ago
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[-] nonentity@sh.itjust.works 25 points 1 month ago

The Hippocratic oath is far too frequently interpreted as a mandate to unilaterally inflict life as broadly and indiscriminately as possible.

[-] AngrySquirrel@lemm.ee 21 points 1 month ago

This is one of the reasons not to try it in a public place, especially a busy one

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[-] Darkassassin07@lemmy.ca 19 points 1 month ago

This capital battery is not yet used up; it may not be ejected.

[-] twice_hatch@midwest.social 17 points 1 month ago

Can't die, he still owes us taxes /s

[-] arotrios@lemmy.world 16 points 1 month ago

You have a couple of decades worth of life left to deal with. You've got an eternity to be dead, and it could suck worse. Plus, if you're a Buddhist or Hindu you're probably gonna have to go through it all again. Might as well see this ride through to the end of the line.

[-] pixeltree 18 points 1 month ago

I wish I could put you in my place and make you read that. Fuck you.

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[-] andxz@lemmy.world 14 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

As a counterargument I'd like to point out that when there's enough pain present you might just want to tap out.

Especially now since one of the lovely American corporations decided to fuck up pain medication for those that truly needs it for decades at the minimum, because they just had to get that fucking profit.

I'm not even American and I'm on about a third of what I theoretically should be. My doctors admit this, but anything more and there's a risk of malpractice bullshit.

Hence, pain. Fuck that. I'll tap out when enough is enough.

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[-] lugal@sopuli.xyz 15 points 1 month ago

The anti theses of the Rammstein song "Spring" (jump) where a guy is on a bridge just to enjoy the view until other people come who mistaken it for a suicide attempt and encourage him to do so. This ends when someone decides to actively help him

[-] Ibuthyr@lemmy.wtf 9 points 1 month ago

I can't take Till seriously anymore, but that is one of my favorite songs ever. The mood is just so jarringly depressing. The song really paints a picture.

[-] andybytes@programming.dev 14 points 1 month ago

What is the root cause of suicide. I say finance..

[-] frog_brawler@lemmy.world 19 points 1 month ago

Depression, but a lot of time finance is the root cause of depression.

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[-] VerbFlow@lemmy.world 13 points 1 month ago

I'm very worried about everyone here. Really, I know that there is a way out that isn't suicide--it's revolution--but it seems like you've all submitted to Capitalist Realism. I've thought about risking my life in an attempt to overthrow the state, but unlike you all, I am legitimately afraid of losing my life. It'd be such a sad note to end my life on. I wouldn't be there to see any surprising good things happen. I wouldn't get to see a socialist system established before me, and I wouldn't be able to do anything to help anyone. How come you all feel fine about death? There's nothing afterwards. There were the Viet Cong who couldn't live to see their country establish socialism, there were the Leninists who died fighting the Tsar who couldn't see the Soviet Union come to be, there were the slaves who died in Southern plantations who couldn't see Juneteenth. If you were really willing to die, you'd die in battle.

[-] darvit@lemmy.darvit.nl 10 points 1 month ago

People don't really feel "fine about death" but more like "being alive feels worse than death".

There is almost always some thing in such a person's life that is causing such feelings. Even if someone thinks the world is better off without them, it's caused by how they "perceive" their impact on the world, which can be caused by the way other people interact with them.

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[-] jcs@lemmy.world 11 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

I've tasted friendship (Ha-ha)
I've tasted you (Oh no)
I've tasted dying and it tasted good
I've tasted heartbreak (Wah)
I've tasted food (Uh oh)
I've tasted dying and it tasted good

But that's dessert
You can have it when the dinner is gone
But that's dessert (Uh-hoo-ah-oh-ah-oh)
But that's dessert
You can have it when the dinner is gone
So put it down

Jack Stauber

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