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[-] nkat2112@sh.itjust.works 124 points 4 days ago

If I understand correctly, such statements harmful to a defendant's team in a court case were already made by law enforcement on television.

And why should I assume that law enforcement didn't botch-up their investigation or taken questionable measures just to have a suspect charged, given that they were reckless on television?

I do not believe Mr. Mangione - who I am personally convinced is innocent - can have a fair trial.

[-] nimble 46 points 4 days ago

Well said.

I do not believe Mr. Mangione - who I am personally convinced is innocent - can have a fair trial.

This sums up my feelings nicely

[-] stoicmaverick@lemmy.world 1 points 4 days ago

To both of you: Given the specificity of your wording, I am honestly curious, do you believe he did not pull the trigger, or do you believe that he did, but is free of wrongdoing? There's a big difference between the two views.

[-] nimble 7 points 4 days ago

I do not believe he pulled the trigger. It doesn't look like the same guy, and given all the planning that went into this, i don't think they would've caught the killer with the murder weapon and a manifesto. It seems too good to be true in a crime that frankly risked starting a class war. They needed to find someone to blame fast and that's why we hear about so many issues with how the case has been handled. The media is portraying this as Luigi did in fact murder brian thompson but i believe in innocence until proven guilty, and based on current evidence i have no reason to believe Luigi is the shooter. Frankly, no one should. The fact that people widely accept that he did (or joke that he didn't) shows how difficult it will be to have a fair trial.

[-] stoicmaverick@lemmy.world 1 points 3 days ago

I think you're confusing the ideas of "Innocent until proven guilty" with "reasonable suspicion". I hesitate to ask, but, do you think OJ did it?

[-] nimble 5 points 3 days ago

I'm not confusing anything. It's not my job to investigate or prove who murdered Brian thompson. And when there are many red flags about the case then i think everyone should be skeptical. Law enforcement can use reasonable suspicion to further their investigation and to detain someone while the public should await trial to form their opinion about a very political case

Why would you hesitake to ask? I never looked into OJ so don't have an opinion. I only care about Brian thompson's case because the widespread political issue directly tied to it.

[-] blakenong@lemmings.world 24 points 4 days ago

When the police do sketchy stuff it does throw a wrench in the legitimacy of the accusation. And, should he actually be innocent, they’re just letting the killer get farther away.

[-] Zorsith 15 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

Its not about justice, its about making a show of someone being punished.

We're living in Fahrenheit 451; if you cant catch the real murderer, just pick someone vaguely the same proportions that's already on a list and punish them instead; the public doesn't care or need to know, as long as they get their entertainment.

If Luigi had been alone and/or not in a public space when they found him, he would have had a bullet in the head from the cops; case closed.

[-] blakenong@lemmings.world 5 points 4 days ago

The real killer was probably doing a hit.

But since they made such a big deal out of it, we will know a lot about the level of surveillance they actually have…. Which is apparently not much.

[-] gabbath@lemmy.world 35 points 4 days ago

In a world where Kyle fucking Rittenhouse was found not guilty, the flimsy evidence they have on Luigi should never stick. But the goal here is a swift win, so they're trying to frame an innocent man and make him an example.

[-] ThatWeirdGuy1001@lemmy.world 13 points 3 days ago

This whole thing just reminds me of Fahrenheit 451.

The main character Guy Montague was being chased by the police but they couldn't find him so they shot down an innocent person that they labeled the suspect so the populace wouldn't see the police as incompetent.

People always bring up 1984 but they need to read and bring up Fahrenheit 451.

[-] aphlamingphoenix@lemm.ee 10 points 3 days ago

So I just finished reading the motion filed by Luigi's lawyer and it kind of sounds like this warning might be in response to that. One argument put forward is that the only evidence of an attempt to cause fear in a generalized population (justifying the terrorism charges) is actually information that the police themselves publicized. The lawyer argues that the only atmosphere of fear in the case was created by the police. So it seems the judge may want to remind officials that they are fucking this up by bragging about it so loudly.

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