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[-] barneypiccolo@lemm.ee 41 points 1 day ago

First you get people comfortable with defending genocide in another country, then they won't be so resistant when you start doing it in your own country.

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[-] when@lemmy.world 133 points 1 day ago

5 Democrats are cosponsors:

  • Josh Gottheimer - NJ-5
  • Jared Moskowitz - FLA-23
  • Joseph Morrell - NY-25
  • Donald Davis - NC-1
  • Laura Gillen - NY-4

https://www.congress.gov/bill/119th-congress/house-bill/867/all-info

[-] IcyToes@sh.itjust.works 71 points 1 day ago

Dear lord. Why are Dems getting involved in pushing fascism?

[-] anarchiddy@lemmy.dbzer0.com 65 points 1 day ago

There have always been liberal collaborators to fascism, this isn't new.

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[-] The_Caretaker@lemm.ee 40 points 1 day ago

When Israel started full scale genocide in Gaza, Biden started giving them more money for weapons. Genocide and fascism are the Democratic party platform now.

[-] SereneSadie@lemmy.myserv.one 15 points 1 day ago

The American government platform. Don't try to single out the Dems for this.

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[-] iAvicenna@lemmy.world 30 points 1 day ago

they dont care about the fascism aspect, they care that it guarantees them their seats, just like %90 of all the politicians.

[-] softcat@lemmy.ca 34 points 1 day ago

Same as it ever was

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[-] superkret@feddit.org 61 points 1 day ago

Oh you didn't buy a Soda Stream?
Believe it or not, straight to jail!

[-] wpb@lemmy.world 11 points 20 hours ago

Gosh I wonder how the democrats will vote on this.

[-] aceshigh@lemmy.world 18 points 23 hours ago

Can someone explain why Israel is so important to them? Aren’t these the same people who are antisemic? Additionally, how does supporting Israel make the us a Christian nation?

[-] ZombiFrancis@sh.itjust.works 11 points 22 hours ago

The American economy since WW2 has relied on funding and supplying armed conflict.

No other entity has supplied more justification for that end.

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[-] nexguy@lemmy.world 9 points 20 hours ago

Law is summarized as:

Prohibited actions include (1) refusing to do business with companies organized under the laws of the boycotted country, if the refusal is pursuant to an agreement with or request from the country or IGO imposing the boycott; (2) refusing to employ any U.S. person on the basis of race, religion, sex, or national origin; and (3) furnishing information about whether someone is associated with charitable or fraternal organizations that support the boycotted country.

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[-] Enkrod@feddit.org 40 points 1 day ago

Fuck this shit, this is intentionally vague to be used as a cudgel

[-] ScrambledEggs@lazysoci.al 47 points 1 day ago
[-] technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 23 hours ago* (last edited 23 hours ago)

It's DEI for "white" people from europe so it's ok.

[-] shawn1122@lemm.ee 22 points 1 day ago* (last edited 20 hours ago)

How to hack your GDP while ordinary people suffer

  1. Private weapons manufacturers make more weapons than should ever be needed.

Why? Your country gained its wealth by becoming the world's largest weapons manufacturer, making it the greatest financial beneficiary of WW2. That manufacturing infrastructure didn't just disappear overnight.

  1. Large government subsidies to countries like Israel which aren't actually cash, rather they are purchases of these privately manufactured weapons using taxpayer dollars. These are given to Israel and other countries / entities in the world which perpetuate military conflict in order to keep feeding the machine.

There you have it. Production and consumption which keeps your GDP and GDP per capita growing without providing a meaningful benefit to humanity.

[-] The_Caretaker@lemm.ee 30 points 1 day ago

How will they enforce it? Does the government send out Israeli products by mail to Americans and then arrest whomever refuses to pay for the products they didn't ask for? Ordering people to buy specific products can't be even remotely legal. Buy Tesla cars or go to jail, is what this amounts to.

[-] CosmicTurtle0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 19 points 1 day ago

Here is the bill (it's like two pages)

I'm not a lawyer so I could be reading this wrong but this law doesn't apply directly to citizens, per se.

The law that it modifies basically makes it illegal for a company to contractually require you to boycott another company that you disagree with, but one that is allied toward the US.

For example, imagine you're the CEO of ACME and you want to do business with Aperture Science, Inc. Aperture can't, as a condition of you doing business with them, restrict you from working with Israeli companies.

That all being said, I do not trust this administration will use the law for it's intended purpose and will instead use it as a club to beat people with.

[-] Mattmercer@lemmy.world 3 points 17 hours ago

Thank you. I've been so confused seeing this bill sent around with people saying it's intended to punish any given individual for choosing to not buy from Israel. I could absolutely be wrong (I'm also not an attorney), but it definitely reads like you have to either be pressured or compensated by a foreign nation (or an IGO if this bill passes) to be impacted by this.

That said, your last point is completely fair...so maybe people are right to worry as though this will get used against them even if they're not boycotting in league with a foreign power. With the folks in this admin, maybe it will 🤷🏻‍♂️

[-] CosmicTurtle0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 14 hours ago

I've been screaming this since the days of digg: no one reads bills. I do for this very reason. Once you get used to reading "Washington speak", you can get a general sense of what a bill is going to do and what it won't do.

Given the hype, it wouldn't surprise me if this was a false flag where the alt right is trying to tire us out by having yet another thing to worry about.

We can only do so much. I'm not saying stopping Israel isn't important. I am saying we need to pick and choose our battles. Of the things the Republicans are doing, it's nothing.

[-] Carmakazi@lemmy.world 15 points 1 day ago

This is a cudgel to use against leftist activists when they are identified through social media skimming and illegal surveillance. The charge of antisemitic activity will be constructed parallel to their desire to brutalize them.

And they all get a stack of AIPAC cash to implement this too.

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[-] RymrgandsDaughter 10 points 1 day ago

What goods or services does Israel provide that we're "boycotting "

[-] Alaik@lemmy.zip 16 points 23 hours ago

Apparently we import a ton of legislation.

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[-] Doorbook@lemmy.world 8 points 22 hours ago

They dont, they boycotting is aim at company that actively participate in the genocide. Microsoft Cloud and AI services for and other Software and Hardware companies for example. Companies that donate money to them or they have headquarter in illegal occupied land. And many others. The BDS movement for example provide a list of companies highlighted by the United Nations to be performing illegal activities in the west bank.

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[-] jsomae@lemmy.ml 6 points 21 hours ago

I'm going to guess that they're trying to make it seem like boycotts are a serious threat. It's a start but not enough.

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