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[-] when@lemmy.world 148 points 2 months ago

5 Democrats are cosponsors:

  • Josh Gottheimer - NJ-5
  • Jared Moskowitz - FLA-23
  • Joseph Morrell - NY-25
  • Donald Davis - NC-1
  • Laura Gillen - NY-4

https://www.congress.gov/bill/119th-congress/house-bill/867/all-info

[-] IcyToes@sh.itjust.works 87 points 2 months ago

Dear lord. Why are Dems getting involved in pushing fascism?

[-] anarchiddy@lemmy.dbzer0.com 83 points 2 months ago

There have always been liberal collaborators to fascism, this isn't new.

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[-] iAvicenna@lemmy.world 35 points 2 months ago

they dont care about the fascism aspect, they care that it guarantees them their seats, just like %90 of all the politicians.

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[-] kryptonianCodeMonkey@lemmy.world 107 points 2 months ago

How do you outlaw a boycott? It's not an act, it's a non-act. An absence of a purchase. How do you distinguish boycott from just not buying something you don't want or need like any other item. Are we going to be required to put so much of our purchases toward Isreal now?

[-] JasonDJ@lemmy.zip 58 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Ding ding ding.

This is how they "lawfully" throw "dissidents" into the gulag.

Remember...most of what Hitler did was technically legal and above-board. Because they controlled the laws and shaped them as they saw fit.

[-] straightjorkin@lemmy.world 39 points 2 months ago

Wrong think will be punished

[-] technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com 21 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

You outlaw a boycott by using violence against those who promote the boycott. It's not even anything new. Many states have already been doing this. Not to mention recent disappearances of anti-genocide activists.

Violence in service of hegemony is almost the entire purpose of the state.

[-] Anomalocaris@lemm.ee 17 points 2 months ago

the state wants to lock you up, figures out you don't drink coca cola, You're on trial for not buying Coca-Cola, or Nestle, or never tried Sabras hummus... straight to jail.

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[-] Bytemeister@lemmy.world 78 points 2 months ago

Didn't CU rule that spending money is free speech? So isn't compelling the spending of money compelling speech? Sounds straight up unconstitutional.(as if that fucking matters these days)

[-] technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com 76 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Rich people spending money is free speech.

Anti-genocide activists not spending money is terrorism.

AKA the usual.

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[-] superkret@feddit.org 67 points 2 months ago

Oh you didn't buy a Soda Stream?
Believe it or not, straight to jail!

[-] AngrySquirrel@lemm.ee 62 points 2 months ago

Amendment I

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the government for a redress of grievances.

[-] A_Random_Idiot@lemmy.world 29 points 2 months ago

Because republicans care so much about laws they don't agree with.

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[-] LeFantome@programming.dev 59 points 2 months ago

If you make the 1st Amendment illegal, the rest of the Constitution cannot be far behind.

[-] pyre@lemmy.world 28 points 2 months ago

if? people have already been blackbagged for their speech. this is just encoding something already in effect.

[-] ScrambledEggs@lazysoci.al 52 points 2 months ago
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[-] Charlxmagne@lemmy.world 50 points 2 months ago

How tf can u ban a boycott, how is that even possible let alone provable 🤦 Politics aside if I js don't like a brand that endorses or has ties to Israel would I then be subject to charges. How u trynna force people to buy from certain companies, what if I was bruk, would I be breaking the law? 🤡

[-] DoubleSpace@lemm.ee 27 points 2 months ago

This will probably be used to target protestors and organizers of political movements.

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[-] barneypiccolo@lemm.ee 43 points 2 months ago

First you get people comfortable with defending genocide in another country, then they won't be so resistant when you start doing it in your own country.

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[-] SaharaMaleikuhm@feddit.org 42 points 2 months ago

How do I boycott Israel in the first place? Not booking my next vacation there? Do I get 20 years in prison for that?

[-] grrgyle@slrpnk.net 23 points 2 months ago

https://bdsmovement.net/Act-Now-Against-These-Companies-Profiting-From-Genocide

Whatever the legal status of officially boycotting Isreal, there's still no law against just incidentally not doing business with the companies.

Before someone says they can't avoid some of these: OK, then boycott the other ones.

Whatever sand you have to throw, throw it in the gears of genocide. Don't just do nothing.

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[-] Splenetic@lemm.ee 19 points 2 months ago

It seems like theatre. How will you ever prove that I chose Burger King over McDonalds for political reasons?

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[-] Enkrod@feddit.org 41 points 2 months ago

Fuck this shit, this is intentionally vague to be used as a cudgel

[-] FreakinSteve@lemmy.world 38 points 2 months ago

Hey big shoutout to all the Redditors and Lemmy guys who told me that we can have no restrictions on free speech because if we restrict Nazis they will restrict us if they ever gain power.

Welp, here ya go...like I told you...and many of you blocked and/or banned me for saying it. Ironic.

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[-] DicJacobus@lemmy.world 30 points 2 months ago

America can't be taken seriously anymore.

It's a good thing Russia gave half of a wakeup call to the rest of the free world to arm the fuck up 3 years ago. We know America can't be relied on for anything anymore.

[-] rockettaco37@lemmy.world 25 points 2 months ago

You remember that first amendment thing we used to have here?

Yeah... neither does our government

[-] shawn1122@lemm.ee 23 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

How to hack your GDP while ordinary people suffer

  1. Private weapons manufacturers make more weapons than should ever be needed.

Why? Your country gained its wealth by becoming the world's largest weapons manufacturer, making it the greatest financial beneficiary of WW2. That manufacturing infrastructure didn't just disappear overnight.

  1. Large government subsidies to countries like Israel which aren't actually cash, rather they are purchases of these privately manufactured weapons using taxpayer dollars. These are given to Israel and other countries / entities in the world which perpetuate military conflict in order to keep feeding the machine.

There you have it. Production and consumption which keeps your GDP and GDP per capita growing without providing a meaningful benefit to humanity.

[-] RedFrank24@lemmy.world 23 points 2 months ago

Is that legal? It doesn't sound legal. I'm sure they could make it illegal for US government agencies to boycott Israel because that's at least partially a foreign policy decision, but private businesses? What are they gonna do, force you to buy Israeli goods?

[-] GreenKnight23@lemmy.world 19 points 2 months ago

narrator: it didn't sound legal because it wasn't.

[-] UncleGrandPa@lemmy.world 22 points 2 months ago

Any government that tells you what you can complain about

Is by definition a Totalerian government

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[-] DarkFuture@lemmy.world 20 points 2 months ago

Nazi America

Brought to you by millions of fascist fucks, including your own family and friends.

Buy a gun.

[-] peteypete420@sh.itjust.works 20 points 2 months ago

How do you enforce anti boycott, how do you force someone to spend their money?

Dont get me wrong Ill know they will try again, but wow.

[-] heyWhatsay@slrpnk.net 19 points 2 months ago

Incremental steps into the police state.

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[-] aceshigh@lemmy.world 19 points 2 months ago

Can someone explain why Israel is so important to them? Aren’t these the same people who are antisemic? Additionally, how does supporting Israel make the us a Christian nation?

[-] nomy@lemmy.zip 40 points 2 months ago

For a lot of evangelicals and orthodox jews, they believe the Third Temple must be built at Temple Mount for the Messiah to return/come. Christians are a death cult and it's part of their eschatology to work towards those ends to bring about the Second Coming and the rise of New Jerusalem/Zion.

In terms of realpolitik Israel is a strategic foothold in an geographically important area rich with resources and trade routes.

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[-] RangerJosey@lemmy.ml 29 points 2 months ago

Evangelical Christianity is a death cult predicated on Israel's existence and eventual destruction.

All those Christian "friends of Israel" long to see every Israeli dead. Because that means the end of the world. White Jesus comes back. A horn is blown. World War ending specifically in fire. Not a flood this time cuz God pinky swore not to.

And everyone except for 144,000 of the most insane Christians is damned to hellfire for all eternity. Jebus rebuilds heaven on Earth.

That's the whole story. From an Exvangelical who was raised in this snake-fuckingly crazy nonsense.

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[-] RidderSport@feddit.org 18 points 2 months ago

Wait you first blame us for not having free speach, because lying about the holocaust is illegal and now you ban boycotting Israel for engaging in a de facto genocide?

[-] LordOfLocksley@lemmy.world 18 points 2 months ago

The courts won't enforce this right, because of freedom of speech, right?

[-] rockerface@lemm.ee 34 points 2 months ago

Freedom of what? Sounds like something communist to me /s

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[-] WorldsDumbestMan@lemmy.today 16 points 2 months ago

Well, we now know what death cult is behind the misery of literally the entire world.

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