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  • Judge: 'You just can’t walk up to people with brown skin and say give me your papers,'

  • The cop(s), probably:

[-] kryptonianCodeMonkey@lemmy.world 14 points 4 days ago

So many cops do not understand that, not only do they not NEED to id you just because there is a line for it on their form, but in fact in zero states may they REQUIRE you to id yourself without reasonable suspicion of a crime. Meaning if they don't have articulable facts to suggest you committed, are committing or were about to commit a crime, you don't have to id yourself for any reason. In some states, you dont have to id yourself until they have probable cause of a crime and choose to arrest you. Moreover, if they do have the requisite reasonable suspicion or are arresting you, you are not required to furnish a physical ID. Even if you have it on you, you don't have to provide it. In most states, all you have to do is provide your name and date of birth, though some also require your permanent address as well. You may not be required to id yourself, but even if not, DO NOT LIE about your identity. That is a crime.

A cop may ASK for an id at any time, and you may choose to willingly provide it, but you are not always required to. I see so many videos of police interactions where the person merely spoke to or argued with an officer, or they were a witness to a crime, or they are approached by the police doing something entirely inoccuous like taking pictures or walking around at night or looking suspicious to a neighbor, and the police demand they id themselves or face arrest. This is a violation of your 4th amendment rights. They will pretend that failure to ID without reasonable suspicion is obstruction or breaks failure to id laws. They are wrong and/or lying. Know your rights wherever you are and do not give them up to anyone.

[-] MyOpinion@lemm.ee 29 points 4 days ago

The Nazi's papers please question is not OK here in California.

who’s gonna stop me?

-ICE and CBP, probably

[-] Guidy@lemmy.world 22 points 4 days ago

Imagine having parents or guardians growing up that were such terrible and awful people that you needed a judge to tell you this.

[-] Nougat@fedia.io 20 points 5 days ago

"Oh, but we can. And we will."

[-] djsoren19 9 points 5 days ago

Since when?

It's always wild to me how liberals seem to be okay with flagrant due process violations as long as it's in a blue city like New York or Chicago or LA, but once it's the orange man they start clutching their pearls over racial profiling. The reason ICE thinks they can get away with it is because they always have, and they'll probably ignore this ruling or get it overturned.

[-] MotoAsh@lemmy.world 21 points 4 days ago

Nobody with an once of conscience or understanding of US law is OK with this. You are grossly uninformed and bigoted to boot, so maybe you should educate yourself before you say such pathetically dumb things like this next time.

[-] djsoren19 4 points 4 days ago

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terry_stop

You can talk about what people in law like to believe. I will continue to talk about what people on the ground actually experience. This shit is common as fuck and near universally allowed in the U.S.

[-] MotoAsh@lemmy.world 12 points 4 days ago

A terry stop is not the same thing and you're only further proving how foolish and gullible you are by saying such hilarity. I also said nobody is OK with extreme things, not that extreme things never happen.

[-] spaghettiwestern@sh.itjust.works 4 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

This is a perfect example of what too much Fox News does to cognitive functioning.

this post was submitted on 02 May 2025
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