Every time I see memes about hight I ask myself why are americans so fixated on that. It's like this is the major thing american women look in a man. Never seen that anywhere else.
It’s like this is the major thing american women look in a man.
My sister did the Tindr circuit back in the '10s, and she regularly passed on anyone who was shorter than 6'. Some of this might have simply been that all the men and quite a few of the women in her family were at least that tall, but she capped out at 5'3".
She struggled with dating for years, because a lot of the guys she went out with were either fuckbois or work-a-holics or otherwise unfun people to be around. Eventually, she got two requests in one day - one dude who was 6'1 and another who was 5'2". At this point, she was getting burnt out and felt a bit bad about not even giving the 5'2" a chance.
The date with the 6'1" guy was predictably awful. She didn't even bother suggesting another.
The date with the 5'2" guy was incredibly. The immediately clicked. She totally fell for him. He fell for her. A couple years later they got married. Now they've got an adorable little girl and we're all joking about how it would be funny of my sister's tall-family genes take over and she's towering over her parents in twenty years.
If you're not tall enough, you might not be able to see if there's a gazelle or lion behind a large rock, thus you will neither be able to feed your family nor save it from being eaten.
Look at long-neck-short-legs over here, thinking they can keep up with the tribe on multi day hunts.
We were all mostly, like, 5 and a half feet tall up until a couple of hundred years ago. Height wasn't a primary biological advantage for us. We weren't prairie dogs.
I've never actually heard anyone say they cared about height. I've only heard second hand stories.
Mostly saying, I think it's a fairly small amount of people that care.
Many of my American friends will not date someone shorter than themselves, I guess in part it's social inertia because it's just embarrassing more than unattractive
Thank you for adding one more second hand story to alexstsrfire's collection
Haven't been on one in years, but women would put "guys over x height only" in their dating app profiles. I saw it as an advertisement that those particular women were very insecure and should probably be avoided, but it was a significant number of them nonetheless.
It's relatively common in dating apps here in Germany. I just see it as an immediate red flag and move on.
Brazil here. My ex wouldn't date anyone shorter than 175cm and my current gf wouldn't even look at me if i was under that height.
If you're with someone so shallow it only speaks to your own mentality
That's incredibly judgemental of you.
Everyone has their own preference in partners of what they like and what they find attractive.
This says a whole lot more about you than it does them.
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Every time I see memes about hight I ask myself why are americans so fixated on that. It’s like this is the major thing american women look in a man. Never seen that anywhere else.
Really great question in which I have spent a decade, maybe two, pursuing the answers for, among many other absurd social issues. This comic alone represents a very real phenomenon that didn't exist in the US prior to the rise of social media.
Left to its own devices, social media would have made this kind of thing a non-issue. Without outside interference, social media broadly would have become a reflection of our society in many ways, the less relevant voices would have been drowned out by people ignoring them or talking over them. Contention would be drowned out by more reasonable voices.
Then I read the KGB handbook for destabilizing democratic nations and states and a lot of things became clear. The idea that you can get your enemy to welcome you in and open the gates for you without firing a shot. The tactic of getting an enemy state to dissolve from within as the people start fixating on each other instead of actual threats.
The tactic is simple and it's been being used on the USA since as soon as large numbers of people started browsing the interwebs every day. Get a busload of people together, pay them and get them laptops and celphones just like you're setting up a call-center type scam operation, but instead of fishing for money, you pay everyone to make accounts all over American social media and forums, find every single post or comment that has any level of social controversy or division, and then you amplify the most extreme views on both sides of every goddamn thing.
Argue against yourself on two different accounts, playing up both how much women "hate short men" while at the same time play short men who are toxic and irate and hate women and make them start a sect of equally hateful men. But of course, not at all limited to height, basically anything that men in particular feel sexual insecurity about gets ramped up in overdrive, because this makes "ground soldiers" and every fascist movement in history has started with sexually insecure young men feeling frustrated and joining forces. Do all this while playing up how dangerous and threatening these angry men are, make people feel unsafe, make people push back with equal vitriol and threats of violence. Logs on the fire. Gasoline all over the structures of democracy. It eventually gets so bad that people tune out, they stop taking sides about anything, they stop paying attention to news stories because they don't know who to believe, they default to doing whatever the state tells them to do because they don't have better answers for anything and just want stability. They stop participating in democracy.
It's not hyperbole, it's something I watched from the earliest days of Somethingawful banning their low-effort image posters and those people going on to form 4-chan and the insular cult-like, society-shaping force that it became, and I was there watching all the demons whispering in people's ears. I modded huge forums and subreddits over the years, I've seen the bots and the armies waiting to subvert every place where people talk. They're not just russians, but they all have the same goal and the USA was not at all prepared for this kind of attack. Parents told their kids "it's not real, don't believe anything online" as more and more of life moved to the internet and people stopped socializing in person.
Bud, you need to take a breath. This was a thing before social media, I promise you. It's not a psy op.
It's simple, toxic masculinity throughout the post war period led to a lot of men lying about their height (same for women and their weight during the same period). Over time public perception of what a tall person looked like shifted, and now every woman thinks that 6 ft is average height.
This phenomenon came out of American advertising, not Russian agents.
And I'm saying that bad actors from a variety of opposing sources have been exploiting our existing social vulnerabilities. Don't be obtuse, you either know exactly what I'm referencing and it's making you mad, or you're dense and ill-informed.
Yes it's always been a "thing" but over the last couple decades there have been organized efforts to boost and amplify every small social contention, which is why you have the rise of the "men's movement" and all the stupid nonsense that came with like redpill BS and incel talking points getting amplified across the world. It's not conspiracy, it's been documented and we ~~have~~ had a whole operation in our national security agencies to monitor and track down these subversive efforts.
Here, while I'm "taking breath" maybe you can get yourself up to speed:
"Russia is waging an information warfare campaign against the U.S. that didn’t start and didn’t end with the 2016 election. Their goal is broader: to sow societal discord and erode public confidence in the machinery of government. By flooding social media with false reports, conspiracy theories, and trolls, and by exploiting existing divisions, Russia is trying to breed distrust of our democratic institutions and our fellow Americans. While Russia may have been the first to hone the modern disinformation tactics outlined in this report, other adversaries, including China, North Korea, and Iran, are following suit." - https://www.intelligence.senate.gov/press/senate-intel-committee-releases-bipartisan-report-russia%E2%80%99s-use-social-media
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2017/oct/14/russia-us-politics-social-media-facebook
https://www.npr.org/2024/09/04/nx-s1-5100329/us-russia-election-interference-bots-2024
Don't be ignorant how vulnerable you are to outside influence. They DEPEND on people like you to keep making people shrug and not pay attention as they use our emotions and social issues as weapons to destabilize democracy. What, are you worried you have to DO something about it? Don't worry, you can keep zoning out and staring at your social media and dumb youtubers being paid by foreign nations to scream about things nobody actually cares about in an effort to make people enraged. You don't need to feel any feelings of guilt or responsibility here, just don't keep working for them for free.
Here's more, the evidence is massive and every major institution is reporting on it, but people like you are tuning out and not caring because it just seems like more "gender war nonsense" or "internet arguing" which is exactly the point of what they've been doing for decades, making it so people get mad at anyone who raises awareness of outside influence in our social discourse because you're all tired of caring. I get it. You are not "talking reason to a conspiracist" here, you're a victim of warfare.
Your personal feelings are irrelevant, this is a huge issue that you can google and get avalanches of reports, stories, data, evidence and facts. But for some reason people aren't caring as much about facts anymore... hmnnn, interesting.
You're both right, though. Russia is amplifying the toxic masculinity culture, which absolutely started in the pre-internet era.
You’re both right
I'm highlighting how this is a huge issue, they're downplaying it and saying male height insecurity hasn't been played up by Russian and other national interests, and I not only know for a fact they were, I have had firsthand access to the scenes behind the curtains where people have been on the frontline of tracking and stopping foreign online influence. A lot of great people did a lot of great work we'll never hear about, but enough of the shit bled through and took hold in American culture that it will never be shaken now. We have several generations of backwards, dark-ages masculinity bullshit and gender division ahead of us because we were too tolerant of intolerance and we didn't take threats seriously. Like the user above.
I appreciate you understanding the issue, but to say we're both right is a contradiction in this context.
Thank you
Is it women tho? Or is it men telling other men they aren't good enough again?
I'm short AF and I've definitely heard that from women but I also dated several women who were taller than me, one of whom by almost a foot. People have preferences and that's just how it is. If someone isn't attracted to you there's not a lot to be done about it but move on and try someone else. It's usually not a judgement on you as a person, there's just no attraction there and as much as we would all like to pretend that doesn't matter, it usually does. I don't date women I'm not attracted to either so it goes both ways.
Better than most of these!
fucking-roller-coaster
Of love?
No love, just fucking.
I can't help but see this with Nicolas Cage's face
Excuse the garbage AI slop, but I'm actually shocked this nearly worked...
This is one of the greatest use of ai I have seen
Why aren't these funny?
This is fucking hilarious.
I like tall dudes and it's fucking hilarious.
bc short incel rage isnt ever funny
Were these comics always like this or have the staff all turned into manosphere dick heads over the years? Saw another one the other day where the whole punchline was basically "haha rape". Used to enjoy occasionally seeing these in my Facebook feed another lifetime ago but a lot of what I've seen here on Lemmy so far has been pretty questionable.
C&H comics have been about lewdness and shock humour for decades now, since they started, no?
"Edgy" has gone over into "toxic"
They have, and they're pretty progressive.
"haha rape"
Rape is never funny. Unless it's a clown getting raped. And he squeaks with every thrust.
If you are above 6 feet she might be
yes
Are you handicap accessible?
Only in the rear.
Moving from hungary to sweden is wild. Going from tall to a bit above average is insane and it feels like less because some people tower over me here.
Only 3cm difference in average, granted 190+cm is far from unusual in the nordics. Is there less variance in Hungary?
I would see myself do this just to make fun of the situation XD. Honestly if height is a requirement your better of looking somewhere else 😅
And that's coming from a dutchie.
I think that's a good response.
"How tall are you?".
"Why, are you a rollercoaster? Haha"
Laugh it off and see how she reacts. If she's awkward and remorseful or she's pushy you can either go on with the date or ask her how much she weighs or her bra size. Then transition into how men can be offended by such a question.
Statistically taller people are seen as more attractive and therefore more successful. So good genes. So "you want to have kids with me? That's a little fast..." Could be a quip.
This is hopefully a more avoidable issue because the more toxic people put in rollercoaster requirements right in their bio.
"Must be at least this tall to ride"
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