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Peace and quiet. (lemmy.world)
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[-] Dropper_Post@lemm.ee 4 points 1 day ago

proof that capitalism kills people. And everyone has a price.

[-] S_H_K@lemmy.dbzer0.com 96 points 2 days ago

40 old me looking at a screen with SSMS and Azure: Instead of an engineer like my father I should have been a tailor like my mom... Or a carpenter...

[-] msprout@lemmy.world 53 points 2 days ago

It's never too late to enter carpentry. I know quite a few programmers who do carpentry as their main hobby. Something about the math and the amount of careful planning is highly transferrable, I guess.

[-] 0x0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 34 points 2 days ago

Whenever I try building something with wood, I get so frustrated that it's not version controlled. In software, I can fearlessly try dumb stuff because I can just roll it back if it didn't work.

[-] Moose@moose.best 17 points 2 days ago

3D printing and CAD may be the hobby for you then!

[-] spankmonkey@lemmy.world 9 points 2 days ago

Creating anything physical requires a lot of practice, and practice really only works if you make mistakes and then learn from them.

Just have to accept that you will waste a lot of wood getting that practice. Heck, a lot of woodworking practice is repetition of the basics before trying to make something with those skills. Otherwise you end up with a bunch of hobbled together ugly stuff that still works like my stuff.

Not catching very slight warping in boards is my weakness.

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[-] lightnsfw@reddthat.com 10 points 2 days ago

Assuming you can afford all the stuff to do it.

[-] neukenindekeuken@sh.itjust.works 11 points 2 days ago

Which most software engineers can

[-] lath@lemmy.world 15 points 2 days ago

Don't be a carpenter. Splinters.

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[-] Doc_Crankenstein@slrpnk.net 19 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

I live in the country.

It's never peace and quiet. It's constantly filled with the noise of shitty neighbors blasting music at full volume cause they don't understand that sound travels. Then there are the gunshots every damn morning from dipshit shooting in their field. I'm constantly worried one day a missed shot is gonna come through my window.

Let's not even get started on when they brun the fucking fields (sugar cane) and the entire area is covered is astringent smoke and ash.

Living in town, people understood that neighbors exist and at least attempted to be considerate about it; plus, I never had to worry about catching strays. Also, life was so much nicer, not needing to fucking drive everywhere just to do basic things or go get something to eat. Being able to walk or catch a bus was so much more convenient and stress-free than needing to drive myself. I was able to have a lot more free time since I wasn't spending it on an overlong commute just to get anything done.

[-] KMAMURI@lemmy.world 22 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

A decade ago my wife and I quit our jobs packed our kids and stuff and moved 7000kms to our now rural homestead. Our closest neighbor is 2km away. Town and groceries is a half hour drive one way. We have a huge garden and laying hens. We raise our own chickens for meat as well as quail and rabbits. Our kids hunt and fish and play outside. Like we did when we were kids.

It's fucking amazing y'all.

[-] The_Picard_Maneuver@lemmy.world 7 points 2 days ago

A 30min drive to town is perfect. That sounds incredible.

[-] Doc_Crankenstein@slrpnk.net 10 points 2 days ago

If I'm any more than a 15 minute walk to my nearest grocer I consider it hell. Fuck needing to pay insurance, maintenance, and gas costs just to be able to perform basic chores.

Needing to waste an hour just to get groceries sounds so dumb.

[-] KMAMURI@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

We don't need to go to town. We grow almost all of our own food for the entire year. We don't need movies or bars or restaurants or even....shocker...full time soul sucking jobs. though we do work for some cash flow. We have the internet and piracy, friends with back yards and basements and we can cook just fine, in fact I used to be a sous chef in a former life and is much of the reasom why we produce our own. We live on less money as a family of five than most single people do. Around ~$25,000/Canadian a year. A family of five.

Our impact is minimal compared to yours I bet, considering all my families food with the exception of a few items comes from the 250 acres of land surrounding my house and we care for that land to ensure we minimize the impact from our agriculture practices as much as we can. We use no motorized equipment and farm using regenerative practices.You probably don't know or care what that means though. Our farm encompasses 1/4 acre. The site where our 3 bedroom home for, again a family of five, sits and is the size of an average "lawn" or "yard" here.

That land also feeds my sister's family (4 adults who live in the city four hours away) and my father's (2 adults). We also provide to our local food bank all season long and barter a lot with our neighbors.

And you wonder why there are monumental societal rifts between rural areas and urban. It's because of people like you who "know better" but have zero actual knowledge or experience to back it up. Just blathering mouthpieces full of nonsense.

[-] Doc_Crankenstein@slrpnk.net 4 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Nice fucking assumptions asshat.

Not like I literally went to college for wildlife conservation and have done entire reports on regenerative agriculture practices. My favorite is multispecies rotational grazing to help incorporate the whole ecosystem into how we cultivate the land. Though, my education spanned much more than just agricultural practices and more on ecosystem health and sustainability on macro scales.

I know much more than you think. I don't really give a shit about your little bs rant. A lot of the bs you go on about are much deeper societal issues that are not unique to rural or urban life but the very fabric of our interconnected society as a whole. I don't care about how little money you live your life on. Needing money is a much larger societal issue that needs to be solved and everyone fucking off into the woods to start their own individual homesteads is not how you make a functional society.

Yes, modern city life has issues and industrialized society is environmentally harmful, especially suburbia, but everyone living isolated plots is not sustainable in the slightest. Just because you and your family are able to do it doesn't mean that everyone can while the entirety of society facilitating the existence of people wanting to live so spread and distanced from each other is causing massive resource drains and itself causes environmental harm in the externalities of facilitating it on a structural level.

As much as you like to imagine you live apart from society out in your little fiefdom, you're still very much a part of it.

[-] FarmTaco@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

conserving a whole lot i bet with that short walk to your local.

[-] KMAMURI@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

And you draw assumptions as well. I assure you I am a part of my society and fight for the things I believe in. You seem to know me so well you likely already are aware of that yet at the same time you don't care at all.

I'm glad you studied It's a smart thing to do. It's a shame you are so knowledgeable yet so bound to a system that does not work for anyone and wastes the vast majority of its food in the name of capitalism. Your high horse seems to have lost its legs.

We can walk the talk and we do, so we're pieces of shit for actually doing it. Shake your head.

I even got my ass off the couch yesterday and voted against fascism in Canada, though I don't believe in the party or person I voted for. I'm probably a piece of shit for doing that too.

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[-] HugeNerd@lemmy.ca 5 points 2 days ago

Our closest neighbor is 2km away.

ahhhhhhhhhhhhh that sounds great

[-] unexposedhazard@discuss.tchncs.de 66 points 2 days ago

They forgot the whole genocide thing which is kinda necessary for this to work out

[-] mc900ftJesus@lemy.lol 18 points 2 days ago

This is why we colonise space, at least the planets without aliens living there.

Almost every colony ever: gets oppressed and exploited, fights for independence, gains sovereignty, becomes either a tense ally or a hostile rival to their former empire

Earthlings: "maybe we should colonize space"

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[-] abies_exarchia@lemm.ee 11 points 2 days ago

Also the whole industrialization, privatization, and rise of capitalism thing in Europe that led to successive waves of emigrants leaving or being coerced from their homelands. I think in general people don’t leave their communities and families without some kind of direct or indirect violence.

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[-] sasquash@sopuli.xyz 32 points 2 days ago

If you weren't rich you couldn't benefit much from "most advanced civilization" at the time. most of the them were really poor and desperate and gave everything just for ticket across the Atlantic with the hope for a better life.

[-] Korhaka@sopuli.xyz 22 points 2 days ago

The thing that I hate even more about all this, I could afford to do this. But you are not legally allowed to live on your own land in the UK without planning permission. I think it is vaguely comparable to zoning in the US.

[-] Soggy@lemmy.world 13 points 2 days ago

We still have parts where you can disappear into the woods and just sort of fuck off forever. Alaska has the Remote Recreational Cabin Site program as a replacement for the Homestead Act and there's parts of the state so remote you could essentially do whatever you want and nobody would ever know. Provided "whatever you want" involves freezing in the dark wilderness.

I'm sure some of our other low-density states have similar things going on, and zoning laws vary wildly.

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[-] DogOnKeyboard@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Thats what i love about Canada, you can buy land in unorganized townships and can do whatever you want there. The interesting wildlife is just the icing on the cake.

[-] wolfinthewoods@lemmy.ml 12 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

I live about 15 miles outside of a small town (~20k) in a trailer park on the side of a mountain. Been here 6 months and it is AMAZING. Super quiet at night, can see the stars and it has a great view of the adjacent mountains nearby.

It'll most likely be awhile, but the plan is to save for a small piece of property with a similar rural location. In my teens and twenties, I used to think that I'd live in the big city, but as I got into my late 30s I couldn't stand being in the city much. I don't mind being able to visit occasionally, but city life just isn't for me anymore. Too big, busy and noisy. Give me a nice, peaceful spot where I can read and enjoy nature quietly.

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[-] stoly@lemmy.world 12 points 2 days ago

This is something I will never understand. You want all of the trappings of civilization without being part of it? You want your cake and to eat it too.

[-] Doc_Crankenstein@slrpnk.net 5 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Right? That kind of mentality is just selfish. It shows that someone doesn't know how to live with others and wants to make that everyone else's problem.

Lol if you want to go live outside of civilization then go ahead; just don't expect things like electricity, roads, and running water unless you can build it yourself. Facilitating all these antisocial people living out in bumbfuck is a massive drain on resources and fucks things up for the rest of us.

[-] superniceperson@sh.itjust.works 4 points 2 days ago

Most of civilization isn't needed for the good parts to exist. The invention of the steam motor should've resulted in a ridiculously sharp decline in population, as most labor was no longer needed to feed the population.

[-] ikidd@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago

50 y/o: get the fuck out of my cave.

[-] Zink@programming.dev 11 points 2 days ago

I have been working for many years to find the right balance for me.

Currently, by day I am a software engineer, but in my off time I am basically a recreational farmer — as in keeper of animals, not gardening. Though, plants are often involved in service of the animals.

I live in suburbia and am pretty ideally located as far as local resources and infrastructure. So I brought a little bit of the wilderness to me. Currently spending a bunch of time on my koi pond.

[-] Shardikprime@lemmy.world 6 points 2 days ago

Then you start talking about colonizing space and people flip the fuck out

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[-] pennomi@lemmy.world 14 points 2 days ago

Unfortunately we’re living in a world that no longer has much unowned/unsettled land. Everything has been bought and hoarded by the ultra wealthy.

[-] carotte 34 points 2 days ago

that was already true in 1492.

the land wasn’t "unsettled" before the colonizers arrived.

[-] pennomi@lemmy.world 8 points 2 days ago

Well yes, but obviously there was some point in history where that wasn’t true. You just need to look back further than modern history.

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[-] RedFrank24@lemmy.world 6 points 2 days ago

Didn't the Puritans leave England because they really hated the Catholics and wanted to change the Church of England to not be as Catholic but the government of the day told them to fuck off?

[-] stoly@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

Also they hated taxes. Basically libertarians with a different name.

[-] superniceperson@sh.itjust.works 5 points 2 days ago

The Puritans weren't the only or even primary colonists, but yes that was their motivation. That and their barbaric faith practices were quite literally illegal.. in medieval England of all places. Children weren't even considered people yet but how the Puritans treated them was bad enough to be made illegal.

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[-] GoodOleAmerika@lemmy.world 4 points 2 days ago

56 countries and counting. No I am not couch or hostel surfing. Full time employee with about 1.5 months of vacay, so we travel a lot to every corner of the world. It's different looking at things in YouTube vs real life.

[-] mathemachristian@lemm.ee 13 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

If thats what you think happened, then you dont get it. readsettlers.org

[-] obsidianfoxxy7870 11 points 2 days ago

I would love to move to some US state with lots of forested country and go build a cute little homestead. Work part time to buy things I need.

Mmm...my dream. Also BTW I'm in my early 20's.

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[-] MonkderVierte@lemmy.ml 9 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

And this is why you have car-centric infrastructure and suburbia.

[-] Saleh@feddit.org 8 points 2 days ago

Pretty sure that's a post 1900 invention. Trains were the hot stuff in the 1800s

[-] JoShmoe@ani.social 10 points 2 days ago

Its always a good idea to consult your local fat checker to verify these claims.

[-] msprout@lemmy.world 11 points 2 days ago

Me, Local Fact Checker (who is also very tired and lazy): "seems fine"

[-] fembinary 10 points 2 days ago

my fat is prettyy high, sadly, although these lads had higher fats

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