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[-] deegeese@sopuli.xyz 145 points 4 days ago

KKK stole the outfit from earlier Christian rituals.

[-] Maeve@kbin.earth 36 points 4 days ago

Supremacists always appropriate things. Ok symbol, sacred numbers/symbols, clothing, words, deities, and twist it to exclude.

[-] prole 5 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Because fascists have no creativity.

As a general rule at least... I guess you can end up with a Leni Riefenstahl every now and then, but for the most part, if you were a good artist at the time in Germany, you were a target. And I guess one could call Josef Mengele "creative" if you remove all positive connotations from the word.

[-] Maeve@kbin.earth 1 points 3 days ago

I had to wiki her, and read about Blue Light and her first propaganda film. And her "how could we know." I guess for me it shows how easily anyone, dreamers and realists alike, can fall under the spell of skilled orators, especially the disenfranchised, wounded, left behind. Which is why I think it's important to leave pettiness and insults behind and beneath us, and rise to healing language and honesty, first with ourselves, and then extended to our kindred. Because we are them and they are us. We just mirror our better and worst selves to each other. If what we see as the worst in ourselves repel us and cause us to use unconscionable language and tactics, why would our kindred react differently?

I'm not talking about crimes against things or even necessarily institutions, but about crimes against humanity. The most poignant rl illustration I can refer to is the attempted genocide to the Jewish people, to now the near complete genocide of the Palestinian people. It was wrong then and it's wrong now.

[-] Underwaterbob@lemm.ee 7 points 4 days ago

Yep. There are still swastikas all over Korea because it's been associated with Buddhists for far longer than Hitler who appropriated it. Freaks out visiting westerners, though.

[-] Maeve@kbin.earth 10 points 4 days ago

It's not just Buddhists. Asatru, Norse/Germanic cultures, too. It ticks me off we have to give up things sacred to us because they've been misused. Aleister Crowley reveled in it and played it to the hilt, though. Yeats was not amused.

[-] jollyrogue@lemmy.ml 11 points 4 days ago

Specifically Catholic. It’s a great example of appropriation.

[-] Lemming6969@lemmy.world 11 points 4 days ago

So just a slightly different flavor.

[-] Amberskin@europe.pub 5 points 3 days ago

To give some context, originally a ‘nazareno’ is somebody paying penitence for sins committed since last years Easter. Part of their ‘penitence’ is to march in procession covered with those robes. The ‘capirote’ (the hood) is intended to keep those sinners (that could be important or well known people) anonymous.

I’m not sure if this is still valid today or if it’s now just a performance. Someone from the south of Spain will more about that than myself.

[-] venusaur@lemmy.world 11 points 4 days ago

So annoying. Same with swastika.

[-] ininewcrow@lemmy.ca 51 points 4 days ago

I got my own little guy I bought as a souvenir in Malaga during Semana Santa (Holy Week) 2013

I call him Miguel

[-] blimthepixie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 46 points 4 days ago

I saw the processions for Semana Santa a few years ago in Madrid. My girlfriend knew I hadn't seen this before and didn't tell me just so she could see my reaction.

I was fairly shocked, and asked her what the craic with that was.

She explained the KKK stole the look, and this celebration outdates the KKK by many years.

Probably centuries.

[-] MrBananaGrabber@lemmy.today 21 points 4 days ago
[-] SkunkWorkz@lemmy.world 27 points 4 days ago

Different country, this is a Dutch tradition. As a Dutch man, this shit is racist as hell and they know it. Anyone who still adores black Pete or dons the blackface is a racist motherfucker.

[-] Lolseas@lemmy.world 5 points 3 days ago

Nothing prepared me for this when I moved from the US to NLD. My first year I was so shocked. One Sunny Bergman documentary later (Zwart Als Roet) and I was vindicated. Nuts that it still goes on. Ongeloofelijk (unbelievable)!

Why do they do that shit??

[-] vxx@lemmy.world 5 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

White Santa Claus = good and brings presents

Black Peter = evil and punishes the kids

Netherlands colonised africa.

It has always been racist, there's just no direct proof for it.

These days after protests, they claim it's grime, so they don't paint their faces in black anymore but put some smut on it.

[-] Goldholz 2 points 3 days ago

Kohl-pech-raben-schwarz as it goes in one german story about saint nicolas, not just black but kohl-pech-raben-schwarz. Black-black-black-black-black :3

[-] spongeborgcubepants@lemmy.world 1 points 3 days ago

6 to 8 did you say??

[-] Lucky_777@lemmy.world 2 points 3 days ago

My "niggas!" Oh shit....wait

[-] Evil_Shrubbery@lemm.ee 30 points 4 days ago

not KKK

That is exactly what ... well, what a KKK member would never actually say, so it's legit.

[-] DemBoSain@midwest.social 19 points 4 days ago

I was in Spain a few years ago, and decided against certain mementos for this reason. Sorry, it may not be KKK, but I won't display a whirling log in my house for similar reasons..

[-] fibojoly@sh.itjust.works 4 points 3 days ago

I got a wonderful Buddhist hanging charm for my car with a nice big 卍 (wàn) on it and you better believe I don't give a fig what people are gonna think about that!

[-] ByteJunk@lemmy.world 20 points 3 days ago

You absolutely need to have a prop to represent Buddha's heart and mind hanging from your rear view mirror to achieve nirvana?

I'm not a Buddhist, but that don't seem like the path...

[-] lagoon8622@sh.itjust.works 4 points 3 days ago

Schwag and tchotchkes are against the message of the Buddha.

If you meet the Buddha on your travels, kill him.

[-] fibojoly@sh.itjust.works 1 points 3 days ago

Haha, very true! But I'm not a Buddhist. It's a gift from one of my former colleagues in China who gave it to me as a good luck charm.

[-] besmtt@lemmy.world 27 points 4 days ago

If not KKK, why KKK shaped?

[-] vext01@lemmy.sdf.org 29 points 4 days ago

In Spain they are called Nazarenos and are integral to the easter ceremonies of Semana Santa.

[-] ddash@lemmy.dbzer0.com 12 points 4 days ago

Hilarious that the name starts with Naz...

[-] vext01@lemmy.sdf.org 24 points 4 days ago

As in Nazereth. People from Nazareth.

[-] prole 2 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Also Seman Santa lul

I'm a child

[-] Bezier@suppo.fi 4 points 4 days ago
[-] AllNewTypeFace@leminal.space 23 points 4 days ago

Didn’t the KKK get their aesthetic sensibility from various medieval/early-modern religious paramilitary organisations like the Spanish Inquisition and the Holy Vehm?

[-] _stranger_@lemmy.world 30 points 4 days ago

Like all regressive movements, they're incapable of original thought and constantly steal aesthetic from others. Yes.

[-] MonkderVierte@lemmy.ml 2 points 3 days ago

To be fair, christianity is a medley of ancient and medieval cultures and stories.

[-] driving_crooner@lemmy.eco.br 5 points 3 days ago

Kkk*

* laughing in Brazilian.

haha they look like candles

[-] MonkderVierte@lemmy.ml 2 points 4 days ago

Different Sect.

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