No DNC officer should ever attempt to influence the outcome of a primary election
Yeah, the DNC would never do that.
No DNC officer should ever attempt to influence the outcome of a primary election
Yeah, the DNC would never do that.
Yeah I would second the view, if it weren't for decades of the opposite of the DNC bending over backwards for it's incumbants. If they had a history of staying neutral and not regularly backing the incumbents. But as they do... then the opposite needs to happen.
I wouldn't mind then backing the incumbents, if the incumbents had any fucking spine to stand up to the Republicans.
well yeah... backing should be merit based not seniority based. You've been there 30 years, and no one knows what the hell you are doing, you've not fought for anything we want. Get lost... if you're still backing good policies, standing up for what's right and making people happy, stick around as long as you want.
A bit of why I fear the general concept of term limits. Bernie sanders is still far and away one of the best in congress. He's old as fuck, been there forever... but easilly in the top 5 most active senators...
Yeah I would second the view, if it weren’t for decades of the opposite of the DNC bending over backwards for it’s incumbants.
For centrist incumbents. Henry Cuellar gets protection. Cori Bush and Jamaal Bowman do not.
This is the same DNC fucks that did this?
Fuck off with you request for 'Neutrality Now'.
“Let me be clear, this is not about shielding incumbents or boosting challengers,” Martin said.
Liar liar pants on fire. These people are so steeped in their own bullshit that they can't even recognize how full of crap they truly are. I'd be willing to bet if this guy could reverse AOC's win in the primary in her district in New York he would do so.
They say the DNC shouldn’t be choosing candidates, but that’s exactly what they want. The system is designed put establishment candidates in place, and keep them there.
“Voters should decide who our primary nominees are, not DNC leadership.” Since when has the DNC not put it's thumb on the scales in the past few decades, or ignored the voters entirely?
DNC: "Fuck Bernie, it's her turn."
DNC thumbing the scales is why we ended up with Trump twice. cause they kept insisting on running candidates no one wanted.
The DNC version of neutrality is blocking progressives. Sure they'll happily codify a rule that Hogg cannot help young progressives primary incumbents election while pretending it's about actually neutrality and letting the voters choose. But they'll be just as happy to throw that rule out when they want to support some Republican in sheep's clothing to kick out a progressive next time around.
I hope this kid haunts their fucking nightmares. Cunts.
Fascinating stuff.
I am not American (have previously lived in North America for a decade and travelled extensively in the region), but based on my experiences this is a very good example of how the US centre-right opposition is completely unqualified for any kind of real action. They clearly lack the risk tolerance and gumption to deal with current internal challenges in their country.
Yep! As an American who has been active in local Dem party activity, they need to be rooted out and replaced. It’s really our best hope.
The DNC’s Rules & Bylaws committee is expected to vote on Martin’s proposal next month in a virtual meeting.
How might registered Democrats and Democrat-aligned Americans support Hogg in this? Is there a good way to get the message across to DNC leadership that we WANT what Hogg is doing? That Hogg's plan is better for party in every way?
They are not here to deliver what people want. They are here to deliver what they are told. They provide just enough cover so that the people not paying enough attention to them still blindly vote for them.
Abandon democrats while it's still too late.
Dems have a 23% approval rating for voters under 30. As those voters age the dems better turn that around of they are just doomed. They seem to be changing nothing at all and counting on trump to shoot himself in the foot, but they keep mistaking disapproval of trump with approval of the DNC. Thats not how any of that works. They are well on their way to more losing. Idiots.
They need to do something major to win voters back. Primarying every single Democrat is what is necessary. Make them all earn it.
Primary every dem who doesn't support ranked-choice-style voting, then primary every future dem that doesn't work to implement ranked-choice-style voting. Until we abolish the two party system, the choice will always be between a "ruling class" boot licker vs. a worse "ruling class" boot licker.
No DNC officer should ever attempt to influence the outcome of a primary election, whether on behalf of an incumbent or a challenger
I'll believe it when someone gets kicked off the DNC for helping incumbents.
"Neutrality" is just (very thin) cover for supporting the status quo, when what we need is a complete change.
“No DNC officer should ever attempt to influence the outcome of a primary election, whether on behalf of an incumbent or a challenger,” Martin told reporters on a call Thursday. “Voters should decide who our primary nominees are, not DNC leadership.”... “Let me be clear, this is not about shielding incumbents or boosting challengers,” Martin said. “It’s about voters’ trust in the party, and when we uphold a clear policy of neutrality, we guard against the perception or reality of bias.”
The trust they lost when they argued in court the party has no obligation to keep promises made to constituents? The trust lost when HRC decided propping up djt as the opposition candidate because he's easy to beat? The trust lost when Joe said, "Nothing will fundamentally change?” The trust lost when Kamala not only shut out Palestinian voices but also backtracked on campaign promises?
Zero. Irony.
See? They can push back on something.
Oh look. The Dems rolling out the same shit since 2015 thinking it’ll work. They are corporate controlled opposition and nothing more. We need a new party ideally, but Hogg needs support from other members who also are tired of the party being The Washington Generals of well, Washington.
Stuff like this is why I left the dem party, they're only strong opponents to progressives, not conservatives. The best summary I ever saw of them was: GOP: "fascism" DNC: "fascism ✨🏳️🌈"
This is the perfect cover for them. They don't have to advocate for the incumbents, that's what corporate media will do for them. They get the bonus of looking like they want to be neutral while neutering Hoggs ability to rally people against the feckless dinosaur moderates in the party.
For the incumbents and DNC leadership it's a win. :/
As a registered democrat (though only because my state requires it to vote in primaries for democrats and I'm certainly not voting republican): pound sand, DNC.
I like how they think of codifying shit when something happens around them or to them.
But don't ever think to codify things everyone else needed to be codified.
Despite the naysaying, isn't this a good thing? Seems the new chair wants impartiality and if codified then should be a wide open contest.
It's exactly what the Democratic party should want. Just not necessarily the Democrat politicians who may have overstayed their welcome.
Despite the naysaying, isn’t this a good thing? Seems the new chair wants impartiality
Centrists benefited for decades from partiality. Now that someone else is playing their game the same way they've been playing it, they decide that they want to be impartial. I have no faith whatsoever in the party's interpretation of neutrality. It just means partiality in favor of centrists.
Have you considered why they're doing this now rather than eight years ago? They're trying to give you the worst of both worlds here, and that aside Hoggs explicitly said he wouldn't use DNC resources for his project. The party has no business deciding what he does with his other organizations.
Americans haven't had an honest vote on the shape or priorities of our economy in half a century.
Just the social issue wedges that economy either causes or in some way informs in order to keep us at each other's throats and not at our shared enemy in their towers and guard gated compounds.
Would you like your crony market capitalism with affirmation ribbons or scapegoats? Freedom!
Example: you know what would cause a lot fewer abortions almost immediately with absolutely no bans from getting one when the woman deems it necessary? A living wage that can support a family. But that's a non starter, as it would cost our rulers capital, and lower their quarterly ego score estimates.
The situation will continue to decline until collapse or the elevation of an actual leftwing government, and both parties conspire to prevent that from happening.
Literally none of this is based off what voters want.
How would the DNC know to put into elections if they aren't available during the primary?? Do they operate off of vibes and random phone polls?
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