I don’t know who this guy is, but I’m with at least on this.

ITT: People who didn’t check the community name

Then there's always that one guy who's like "what about memes?"

MSpaint memes are waaaaay funnier than Ai memes, if only due to being a little bit ass.

Some many in these comments are like "what about the ethical source data ones?"

Which ones? Name one.

None of the big ones are. Wtf is ethically sourced? E.g. Ebay wants to collect data for ai shit. My mom has an account, and she could opt out of them using her data but when I told her about it, she told me that she didn't understand. And she moved on. She just didn't understand what the fuck they are doing and why she might should care. But I guess it is "ethically" sourced as they kinda asked by making it opt out, I guess.

That surely is very ethical and you can not critic it for it... As we all know, an 50yo adult fucking a 14yo would also be totally cool as long as the 14yo doesn't say no. Right? That is how our moral compass work. /S

Fucking disgusting. All of you tech bro complain about people not getting ai or tech in general and then talk about ethically sourced data. I spit on you.

I love IT, I work in it and I live it, but I have morals and you could too

Edit: after a bunch of messages telling me that I am wrong. I wonder when they will realize that they are making my point. I am saying that it isn't ethically sourced without consent and uninformed consent isn't consent. And they are tell me, an it professional with an interest in how machine learning functions ever since alphago and 7 years before the ai hype, that I don't understand it. If I don't understand it, what makes you believe the general public understands and can consent to it. If I am wrong about ai, I am wrong about ai but I am not wrong about the unethical nature of that data, people don't understand it.

And this is where I split with Lemmy.

There's a very fragile, fleeting war between shitty, tech bro hyped (but bankrolled) corporate AI and locally runnable, openly licensed, practical tool models without nearly as much funding. Guess which one doesn't care about breaking the law because everything is proprietary?

The "I don't care how ethical you claim to be, fuck off" attitude is going to get us stuck with the former. It's the same argument as Lemmy vs Reddit, compared to a "fuck anything like reddit, just stop using it" attitude.

What if it was just some modder trying a niche model/finetune to restore an old game, for free?

That's a rhetorical question, as I've been there: A few years ago, I used ESRGAN finetunes to help restore a game and (seperately) a TV series. Used some open databases for data. Community loved it. I suggested an update in that same community (who apparently had no idea their beloved "remaster" involved oldschool "AI"), and got banned for the mere suggestion.

So yeah, I understand AI hate, oh do I. Keep shitting on Altman an AI bros. But anyone (like this guy) who wants to bury open weights AI: you are digging your own graves.

Tfw a community is called fuck_ai so you decide to march in and defend honour of Sam Altman.

Damn, I had no idea the Game UI DB guy was so based. Huge respect from me.

The more I see dishonest, blindly reactionary rhetoric from anti-AI people - especially when that rhetoric is identical to classic RIAA brainrot - the more I warm up to (some) AI.