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Kevin McCarthy Says AOC Could Crush Old Guard Dems and ‘Become the Leader of the Democratic Party’ (www.mediaite.com)

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[-] ptz@dubvee.org 149 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Remember when we were all laughing at McCarthy because he wanted to be Speaker so badly and kept failing, over and over, to get enough votes? And how it was funny when he got ousted because of the rules he had to agree to in order to secure the votes from the crazies? And laughing because that, predictably, bit him in the ass?

I feel like that stopped being funny when we got Mike "Shares his porn watchlist with his son" Johnson as Speaker. At least McCarthy was a politician and not a crazy, religious zealot two heartbeats from the presidency.

Republicans --We Always Have Someone Worse Than the Last Guy

[-] neukenindekeuken@sh.itjust.works 51 points 1 week ago

Things have always gotten worse with Republicans. It does not ever get better. What we had last week is better than what we'll be dealing with next week.

This has always been their way.

[-] djsoren19 25 points 1 week ago

Things have always gotten worse with ~~Republicans~~ America.

Feels like the old Russian mantra applies to us more and more these days. "And then things got worse."

[-] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 12 points 1 week ago

No. This is very much not normal.

Normal is trying to be good and often doing it. Not . . . whatever this is.

[-] djsoren19 8 points 1 week ago

It's been my experience as an American for my entire life. Things really predictably only seem to get worse and worse.

[-] UniversalBasicJustice@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 points 1 week ago

My first memory of a "global event" was 9/11. Then the Patriot Act and the Iraq/Afghanistan war. Then Citizens United and single-payer ObamaCare got shutdown and I gave up on the US, put my head down and got to work on an engineering degree so I could emigrate.

Thankfully, despite failing out and putting a total of 10 years into my 4 year degree, I graduated 2 years ago and am in a reasonable position to make that move. Leaving family and friends behind fucking sucks, but I can always come back when things simmer down, or at least provide a place to go if things don't.

[-] santa@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 week ago

GQP — There is no bottom.

[-] Maeve@kbin.earth 9 points 1 week ago

At least McCarthy was a politician and ~~not~~ a crazy, ~~religious~~ P2025 zealot two heartbeats from the presidency.

[-] Ledericas@lemm.ee 2 points 1 week ago

and got replaced by a looney right wing closeted christian.

[-] Gates9@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 week ago

Meh, fuck ‘em.

[-] SinningStromgald@lemmy.world 96 points 1 week ago

AOC, and progressives in general, taking over the Democratic party is the only hope for its successful continuation. Assuming we have elections.

[-] obvs@lemmy.world 90 points 1 week ago

She IS the leader of the Democratic Party.

[-] BigBenis@lemmy.world 47 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Lol yeah, she's touring the country throwing rallies while Schumer is trying to lead, "We stand with Israel. We will win." chants with the least amount of charisma possible and Jefferies is doing interviews and insisting the Democrats' biggest issue is messaging.

[-] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 9 points 1 week ago

Well he’s not that far off.

[-] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 16 points 1 week ago

If only by forfeit.

[-] krelvar@lemmy.world 68 points 1 week ago

I'd be happy to see an AOC/Buttigieg ticket in 2028.

Warren for sec of treasury. Walz for HUD or even better, cabinet level position in charge of figuring out the young man problem. He's representative of the role model a lot of young men are missing imho.

I don't wanna see another dem pres candidate that's older than me (mid 50s) EVER AGAIN. The problems my kids are facing aren't going to be fixed by old people, and while I'm not quite there yet, I'm fucking close enough.

[-] TronBronson@lemmy.world 14 points 1 week ago

Ya my mom can barely grasp what’s going on right now. No concept of the future beyond her life. I’m pushing 40 and got no idea what the kids want or need or how our education system got so fucked. we really can’t be having geriatrics making policy that will affect the future beyond their immediate life

[-] krelvar@lemmy.world 10 points 1 week ago

I would support a cutoff for president at say 60 when starting office, that would keep us below 70 for a two-termer. That's plenty old enough.

Also the 18 year rolling term limit idea for SCOTUS.

[-] TronBronson@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago

Yea i don't really mind the SCOTUS issue. That goes away with the two party issue, politicized judges with zero integrity is a failure of congress. I like that judges hold benches and get lifetimes of experience and wisdom. I like the old age and prudence rule in courts. Congress ya, 70 is probably getting to old. There's no reason to throw them out of the party, but they do not need to be holding seats when we need to be constantly generating new politicians. They all became so obsessed with their own power they forget they will eventually die with no one to carry their torch. There needs to be a better transition of leadership, as well as coherent leadership. People of all ages should be represented in congress similar to how we are in public. If the boomers are 30% of the population they shouldn't be holding more than 30% of the seats. Fair equitable representation.

[-] kryptonianCodeMonkey@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

in charge of figuring out the young man problem

Both a great idea and one that will absolutely piss of the conservatives that are happy to see their young men embrace far right ideologies even if it comes with violent hatred in the process.

[-] krelvar@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago

This was a great podcast episode that addresses the young men issue directly. Scott Galloway has been talking about it for a while.

https://overcast.fm/+ABEb8GDsq4Q

At about 70 minutes, he states that the greatest innovation from the United States is the middle class, and he makes a good argument IMHO. He talks about how there were about seven million men that came back from World War II having proven themselves, with some confidence, and of course being in uniform doesn't hurt. They had opportunity for education, help with starting a career and affording a home, and all that made them attractive mates and led to the baby boom and the rise of the middle class. (I know it's an oversimplification, of course.)

Here's a fun conspiracy theory for you – what if somebody recognizes that sequence of events and thinks the best thing we could do would be to replicate it? If that was your goal, what would you do to make it happen, but with a twist to the far right?

[-] Melatonin@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 week ago

You think that's the problem. Old people running? No, it's this lopsided old people majority that the baby boom brought. They could run, but no one would vote for them.

Until we die off and get out of the way, this isn't going to change.

[-] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago

I’d be happy to see an AOC/Buttigieg ticket in 2028.

I would fear for AOC's safety with Buttigieg as her VP. And not just because he's McKinsey. Because there are a lot of democrats that hate her and would consider Buttigieg an acceptable replacement.

[-] PunkRockSportsFan@fanaticus.social 50 points 1 week ago

Kevin McCarthy is a traitor to the American people, a disgrace to Bakersfield, and just a weak example of a male human.

[-] wanderwisley@lemm.ee 48 points 1 week ago

The dems have been in dire need of a new leader and new ideas. Hopefully not just AOC but many more young inspired people will stand up alongside her.

[-] lagoon8622@sh.itjust.works 14 points 1 week ago

That one running for office, Kat Abughazaleh. We need lots more people just like that

[-] kreskin@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago

Kat looks awesome.

[-] wanderwisley@lemm.ee 4 points 1 week ago

Yes we definitely need more of them. And we need to vote for them and stand up for our rights and beliefs regardless.

[-] dhork@lemmy.world 29 points 1 week ago

She's young, she could decide to run for Chuck's Senate seat in 2028. She would be just as compelling a Presidential candidate in 2032 or 2036....

.... But if a fair election is held in 2028, it is essential that Democtats field the best possible candidate, not just the next one up. (Hi, Gavin!) If AOC thinks that's her, then I will happily support that. If she supports someone else (Booker, Walz, etc), I will also be listening. But if we fuck this one up, and Vance or Eric Trump or Sean Hannity get elected, that might be game over for Democracy here. We may not get another chance.

As a NY State resident, I am eagerly looking forward to voting for AOC in some capacity in 2028, whether it's for Senator, VP, or President. I'll let her decide where she thinks she can create the most change.

[-] Supervivens@lemmy.world 14 points 1 week ago

Eh if it’s just Vance running, I wouldn’t be too worried. The man has the charisma of a flopping fish

[-] dhork@lemmy.world 9 points 1 week ago

They might put him forward precisely because he has no charisma. The understanding would be that Trump was calling the shots, even if he didn't hold the office. Puppets stop flopping around once their controller puts their hand up their ass and grabs the controls

[-] valkyrieangela 5 points 1 week ago

This is true, and it only got dramatically worse after they took office. The way he handled the Zelinsky visit was abominable, so he gets to tack that onto his resume now.

[-] Treczoks@lemmy.world 29 points 1 week ago

About time. The Dems need about as much fixing as the rest of the country. At the moment, they are not even a functioning opposition party.

[-] mrerr@lemm.ee 25 points 1 week ago

this is one case where I hope McCarthy is right. Might be a few election cycles before some tangible change, but it needs to happen.

[-] b3an@lemmy.world 20 points 1 week ago

Kevin McCarthy can go fuck himself. Seriously. I don’t care WHAT he says. He’s a fucking shill and helped flush the country down the drain. Fuck anything that bastard says.

[-] SGGeorwell@lemmy.world 19 points 1 week ago

God willing

[-] futatorius@lemm.ee 16 points 1 week ago

McCarthy's dumb as a bag of pea gravel and this is his idea of scaremongering.

[-] barneypiccolo@lemm.ee 12 points 1 week ago

Oh, just STFU, and GTFO.

[-] peoplebeproblems@midwest.social 12 points 1 week ago

I do believe that is the intent yes.

[-] mienshao@lemm.ee 11 points 1 week ago

Cheers bro i’ll drink to that

[-] BarrierWithAshes@fedia.io 10 points 1 week ago

Its possible. There's nobody I can see who could lead the party at this point? Gavin Newsom? He's a DINO.

[-] AfricanExpansionist@lemmy.ml 9 points 1 week ago

What are you talking about? Newsom embodies the modern Democrats

[-] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 9 points 1 week ago

Sure looks like republicans are scared of AOC.

But centrists saw a progressive woman seizing the moment and suddenly decided that women can't win.

[-] eugenevdebs@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 1 week ago

AOC makes Trump and his shit-lickers afraid. Pelosi and Schumer don't spark any fear.

And the DNC keeps the ones who he can rally around the flag to blame for anything bad. Because no one really likes Pelosi and Schumer. People like AOC.

Remember when calling them weird was working, making them cower and the media loved it? And then they just... Stopped because how dare anyone be rude to fascists.

[-] Curious_Canid@lemmy.ca 5 points 1 week ago

Don't threaten me with a good time.

[-] Jaysyn@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago

McCarthy is a moron & part of the reason we have Trump. Let him die in obscurity, the sooner the better.

[-] Veedem@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago

I’d be excited for her or Pete to take over. Would like to see Warren or Waltz as a VP.

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