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[-] Archangel1313@lemm.ee 175 points 2 weeks ago

I love how they never once mention in the article that Republicans wrote the bill, proposed it, and 100% of them voted in favor of it.

But, despite all that...the headline still reads, "Democrats passed it".

[-] dohpaz42@lemmy.world 155 points 2 weeks ago

Because we expect that from Republicans. It’s the democrats defecting that is the worrisome part.

[-] libra00@lemmy.world 92 points 2 weeks ago

The fact that Republicans want to take away peoples' ability to vote isn't really news, but the fact that any Democrats supported it is.

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[-] Tinidril@midwest.social 24 points 2 weeks ago

Try to primary them and see how fast the Democratic establishment is to come to their defense. "Democrats" is fair. Not all Democrats, but the party establishment is rotten.

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[-] queermunist@lemmy.ml 19 points 2 weeks ago

Republicans wanting to ban women from voting isn't really news.

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[-] EmpireInDecay@lemmy.ml 13 points 2 weeks ago

Republicans tell us who they are, so theres no need to point out what theyve already told us. Democrats however always claim to hold the high ground as if they are not collaborators in regressive legislation.

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[-] partial_accumen@lemmy.world 173 points 2 weeks ago

IANAL but in my reading of the text of the bill the only way for a married woman that took her partner's last name (that wasn't in the military with her married name) to be able to vote if this becomes law is for them to spend at least $30 to get a USA Passport card. This would tick all the boxes the bill requires for these women:

  • Government ID
  • Shows citizenship status (by nature of it being a Passport)
  • Shows place of birth
  • Shows the married last name

...or as I'm calling it:

This is violation of the 24th Amendment banning poll Taxes.

In this case, its a required fee married women must pay to be able to use their Constitutional guaranteed right to vote granted by the 19th Amendment. How is this not a poll tax by another name on married women?

[-] HubertManne@piefed.social 36 points 2 weeks ago

Worse getting the card is a major pita with the documentation and photo and having to mail it for first time.

[-] alkbch@lemmy.ml 27 points 2 weeks ago

At this point the constitution is more of a guideline.

[-] unphazed@lemmy.world 12 points 2 weeks ago

To the GOP it's just rough paper to wipe their asses.

[-] A_norny_mousse@feddit.org 22 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

It always seems to me that this wouldn't be such a big problem if the US had a working bureaucracy. I know $30 can be a significant sum (plus the pictures and other expenses) but it would be less of a hurdle if

  • relevant offices were within reasonable distance
  • they were sufficiently manned
  • all or part of the process could be done online
  • the government actually strives to make these processes as user-friendly as possible

This is something Americans rarely talk about because it's just assumed that everybody knows? Maybe somebody could explain to a EU dweller.

edit: maybe I didn't phrase this properly. I'm fully aware that preventing people from voting has a long "tradition" in the US; my question was more general I guess, and meant as an "in addition to the points already mentioned".

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[-] Bytemeister@lemmy.world 22 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Consider this too. A woman has all of her ducks in a row with her married last name, and then divorces her POS republican husband. Now she needs to re-establish her identity all over again.

For the ladies out there (or anyone getting married) keep your last name. My partner kept theirs, and it tickles them pink when the systemic chauvinism gets reversed and I get called by their last name.

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[-] WrenFeathers@lemmy.world 155 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

“Four democrats passed this,” but we are just going to ignore the 216 conservatives that passed it?

So when do we get to start calling bullshit like this propaganda?

[-] Signtist@lemm.ee 49 points 2 weeks ago

Everyone already knows all the republicans supported it; anything under their jurisdiction is already a lost cause. What I want to know is how many people from the "left" party can't even keep their own votes on the right side of history. It's not news when villains are villains - it's news when the people who say they're here to fight back against the villains are caught supporting them, and it's important not to drown out that important detail among a bunch of already-known regressives. People need to see that the current democratic party isn't a viable defense against conservativism, and that we need to do something more to get things moving in the right direction again than simply trusting democrats to fix everything.

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[-] reddit_sux@lemmy.world 33 points 2 weeks ago

People expect the representative they voted for to vote how they want. Conservatives' representative voted as they wanted. Whereas Democrats' representative voted against their wishes. Hence the outrage.

This is a simplistic explanation, 4 Democratic representative might have voted as their constituents have demanded.

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[-] A_norny_mousse@feddit.org 28 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

My initial reaction to this headline was: "what now?", and my first reaction on reading the article was "oh, it's a continuation of the horror show that calls itself US government - not actually something that four democrats are responsible for"

So I'm totally with you. Stop the sanewashing of the continued and systematic madness rising to ever new heights of depravity, should be the headline.

Republicans built the foundation for what's happening now for decades, and it was always like you said in your other comment: "Conservatives have survived on their ability to never be held accountable for what they do." Well, slightly more differentiated.

This bill is yet another voter supression tool. This is what they ultimately want: you have to be rich, male, of a certain ethic, and "white" to have a say. And they're almost there. If voting was really made easy for everyone, do you really think the GOP would still win?
This is yet another piece of codified and systemic racism, misogyny, homo- and transphobia, richism.
The hollowing out of what was once a working, relatively democratic system to a point where even the empty shell is starting to break up.

All that said, Democrats should start wielding what power they have (both in the government and in media, public opinion etc.) way more decisively. Between elections we must talk about how fucked up both parties are.

This comment (from this post) puts it best imho:
https://lemmy.world/comment/16414382
https://feddit.org/post/10702307/6001640

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[-] goofus@lemmy.today 94 points 2 weeks ago

Jared Golden, Marie Gluesenkamp Perez, Henry Cuellar, and Ed Case

[-] Gullible@sh.itjust.works 22 points 2 weeks ago

Marie Gluesenkamp Perez sold out the US on another important vote at some point in the recent past. Her name was unique enough to remember. Are the other three also habitual free agents?

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[-] barneypiccolo@lemm.ee 77 points 2 weeks ago

No Democrat should vote for a single Nazi bill, ever.

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[-] thedruid@lemmy.world 55 points 2 weeks ago

they are called collaborators. Nazi Collaborators..

[-] Sanctus@lemmy.world 40 points 2 weeks ago

IT FUCKING PASSED?

We have long crossed the Rubicon.

[-] Chainweasel@lemmy.world 33 points 2 weeks ago

It passed the house a few days ago, from my understanding it is less likely to pass the Senate

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[-] inclementimmigrant@lemmy.world 17 points 2 weeks ago

Or at least vote for the progressive in the primary first.

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[-] Houseman@lemmy.world 30 points 2 weeks ago

Pretending to be a democrat seems to be more and more common. We need a way to vet them.

[-] dohpaz42@lemmy.world 29 points 2 weeks ago

Fuck vetting. We need a way for citizens to recall these lying fuckers.

[-] queermunist@lemmy.ml 15 points 2 weeks ago

Unfortunately, if you try to vet them you'll be attacked for not voting for the lesser evil.

[-] Tinidril@midwest.social 14 points 2 weeks ago

Yeah, at this point it's beyond clear that it goes beyond "a few bad apples". Any attempt to primary these fuckers will have to overcome a tidal wave of Democratic establishment and AIPAC money.

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[-] LMurch@thelemmy.club 27 points 2 weeks ago

But that means something like 204 democrats voted against. Maybe if those 4 hadn't of supported the bill, it might have failed, but you can't blame the democrats for a shitty bill when 97% voted against.

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[-] Ledericas@lemm.ee 24 points 2 weeks ago

im not surprised these DINOs are here, theres like 10 in then senate and probably just as many in the house.

[-] rational_lib@lemmy.world 23 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

This headline is horseshit so I've only read enough to establish that much and am ignoring the rest of the article. Someone post a different one.

Here's all you need to know from the article:

Republicans, and apparently some Democrats

many have warned that it could even make it harder for married women to vote.

The only conclusion you should draw is this: Marin Scotten of the New Republic is full of shit and shall not be trusted ever. You may conclude as you wish about all other matters based on other sources.

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[-] BigBenis@lemmy.world 21 points 2 weeks ago

Democratic leadership is a joke. Jefferies and Schumer need to step down. This is pathetic.

[-] Gowron_Howard@lemm.ee 21 points 2 weeks ago

Wonder how much they’re getting paid?

[-] TripleIris@lemmy.wtf 17 points 2 weeks ago

It's not these four cowardly DINOs that make me lose faith in this country. It's the people continuing to defend them.

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[-] sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com 14 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Ok whew, we are truly almost back to the 1890's, Trumpublicans apparently favored era of America.

19th Ammendment was passed back in... 1920.

Basically this undoes women's suffrage, so married women either just can't vote, or will face massive uneccesarry hurdles voting.

And of course transfolk as well, they're now pretty much ~~formerly~~ formally (ducking autocorrect) disenfranchised.

I wonder, do we have bootleggers (smugglers) for abortifacients, birth control, horomone therapy drugs yet?

I guess that'll be the 'growth market'.

[-] sporkler@lemmy.world 13 points 2 weeks ago

I wonder how the republicans voted?

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