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[-] floofloof@lemmy.ca 205 points 2 weeks ago

According to the Pew Research Center, 69 million women who have taken their spouse’s name do not have a birth certificate matching their legal name and could find it much harder to register to vote under the bill.

So, among other things, this is a step towards the Republican goal of denying women the vote.

[-] themeatbridge@lemmy.world 67 points 2 weeks ago

Women of course, but also poor people and immigrants are far less likely to have all of the requisite documentation. Plus it's an opportunity to snipe at transgender people.

[-] atomicbocks@sh.itjust.works 33 points 2 weeks ago

Also, I’m adopted…

My name was changed in the decree and not on my birth certificate.

[-] vaultdweller013@sh.itjust.works 15 points 2 weeks ago

I changed my last name cause I ain't being called the name of my fucken rapist.

[-] Kookie215@lemmy.world 11 points 2 weeks ago

I work with the homeless all over the country and the most common theme is that they rarely have all the paperwork to get their ID.

[-] themeatbridge@lemmy.world 7 points 2 weeks ago

I talk to a lot of people who think voter ID requirements are no big deal, because they have always had an ID. They cannot fathom anyone living a life that doesn't conform to their experiences.

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[-] partial_accumen@lemmy.world 43 points 2 weeks ago

GOP: Putting the "suffer" back into suffragette

[-] WhatAmLemmy@lemmy.world 42 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Then the suffragettes should just go back to the terrorism they chose to abandon at the start of WW1.

No taxation without representation, you fascist cuntrags!

[-] flicker@lemmy.dbzer0.com 21 points 2 weeks ago

Every time some liberal recommends peaceful protest, I yell that MLK Jr. couldn't have got where he got without Malcolm X, that Stonewall was a riot, and if someone takes away my right to vote, I'm going to behave in the way that got my foremothers the right to vote!

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[-] barneypiccolo@lemm.ee 58 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

We got married in St Lucia back in the 90s, and we've been trying for several years to get a copy of our marriage certificate so my wife can get her ID updated. We've sent them the money ($10) several times, filled out all the proper documents and followed all the rules (which have changed a few times), and then we hear nothing. After a few months, we try again. There is no option to do it online.

At this point, we are seriously considering getting her a legal name change through the American courts. It will be more expensive, but at least it will work.

I would advise any woman who is getting married to keep her own name, and not change it to her husband's. Dont even hyphenate it. Changing your name is a stupid old custom anyway, I cant believe feminists didn't go after it long ago.

[-] MrsDoyle@sh.itjust.works 13 points 2 weeks ago

I got married in 1976 and didn't change my name. My mother cried when I told her. "People will think your children are illegitimate!" At work I had to go to HR and explain, they acted like I had lost my mind.

[-] jagged_circle@feddit.nl 7 points 2 weeks ago

What? Wouldn't HR thank you? I know IT would be praising you for making their job easier.

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[-] roscoe@lemmy.dbzer0.com 12 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Is going down to the courthouse and getting married again not an option? Not that you should have to do that, just curious.

Edit: I mean your local courthouse so you don't have to deal with this anymore.

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[-] Theprogressivist@lemmy.world 54 points 2 weeks ago

And nothing will be done about it.

[-] zephorah@lemm.ee 29 points 2 weeks ago

There’s no agency to ride to the rescue. It’s just the government and We The People, for better or worse.

[-] inclementimmigrant@lemmy.world 25 points 2 weeks ago

I'm sure that Schumer and Jefferies will be looking for a nice bipartisanship solution to deny women the right to vote here.

[-] barneypiccolo@lemm.ee 11 points 2 weeks ago

Composing a sternly worded letter as we speak, which only 75% of the Dems will sign.

[-] ininewcrow@lemmy.ca 18 points 2 weeks ago

This is what I find frustrating with Americans ... their country is literally burning down and not enough of them can be bothered to do anything about it.

They believe they can wait until the last possible minute of failure and like some Hollywood movie, they'll save everything at the last possible moment when things are at their darkest and save everything.

It isn't a Hollywood movie .... if no one does anything now or soon ... everything will be lost and no one will save it at the last moment

[-] partial_accumen@lemmy.world 27 points 2 weeks ago

This is what I find frustrating with Americans … their country is literally burning down and not enough of them can be bothered to do anything about it.

I got yelled down by a Canadian here on Lemmy yesterday (in much less kind language) that my protesting here in the USA is useless.

[-] Asafum@feddit.nl 18 points 2 weeks ago

Because protesting in the way we typically do it IS useless. We need general strikes, road blockages, storming government buildings and occupying them, things that actually affect people.

Yelling at a building and inconveniencing absolutely no one accomplishes nothing. The media downplays or ignores, like the April 5th protest, anything that doesn't affect money.

[-] Mouselemming@sh.itjust.works 9 points 2 weeks ago

The Catch-22 to that is it gives Trump and the GOP the excuse to declare martial law, as they're already itching to do, hugely extending the power of their autocracy.

[-] Grindl@lemm.ee 9 points 2 weeks ago

You're mistaken if you believe they need a non-fabricated reason. The Reichstag will burn on schedule.

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[-] Rentlar@lemmy.ca 9 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Canadian here. Prove all us naysayers wrong! (I'm pessimistic on America's future but I'm willing to believe there's a chance for change)

Keep going, Apr 19th, every day of action after, escalate until the country is yours again, instead of just for the billionaires, by the billionaires. Then let's talk.

[-] Bonesince1997@lemmy.world 11 points 2 weeks ago

And in the meantime all you people will just bitch and moan about Americans but do nothing to help but that bitching and that moaning. What are you trying to prove? That you've never helped anyone before? Or you're not willing to now? I don't think this sounds as good as you all think.

[-] Rentlar@lemmy.ca 11 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

We're very helpfully and politely reminding you that we're your friends who spend money at your attractions and your best customers that bought your stuff, by refusing to travel and buy American for now. The booking level drops and car travel drops of 70% shows Canadians banding together and acting en masse. I am out protesting too with my fellow Canadian in front of Tesla, in front of consulates and embassies, in front of city and provincial legislative buildings, and we're poised to elect someone taking a strong but measured response against Trump rather than MAGA-mini.

Your president is hurting us as Canadians, and your president is hurting you as Americans. This requires action on both our parts, but on different levels since this is an American problem. It seems like the first challenge is getting the public at large to acknowledge that this is a problem. I think the rallies across the nation are a good first step. Keep going and the next steps to action will come as you organize. (Perhaps a general strike?)

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[-] ininewcrow@lemmy.ca 9 points 2 weeks ago

I'm Canadian and I whole heartedly support you protesting .... my complaint is that not enough of you are doing it .... your entire country should be marching in the streets and shutting everything down

[-] partial_accumen@lemmy.world 9 points 2 weeks ago

I’m Canadian and I whole heartedly support you protesting

I'm American and I whole heartedly support Canada is a sovereign nation and the USA needs to respect that. That was the idea of my most recent protest sign the idea of "Hands off Canada!". At the last demonstration I saw two others also supporting Canada, but really there is just so much to protest that the authoritarians are doing to our country.

my complaint is that not enough of you are doing it

I agree with you on that.

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[-] jjjalljs@ttrpg.network 7 points 2 weeks ago

Maybe saint Luigi will visit us.

I don't think we're going to see any lasting improvements unless the Republicans are forcibly removed from power.

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[-] WoodScientist@sh.itjust.works 53 points 2 weeks ago

As a trans woman who both legally changed her birth name AND took her husband's last name when getting married:

[-] nutcase2690@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 points 2 weeks ago

Make sure your passport is up to date!

[-] WoodScientist@sh.itjust.works 17 points 2 weeks ago

You really haven't been paying attention, have you?

[-] match@pawb.social 27 points 2 weeks ago

I'm updating my (legally changed) name on my passport this week and two random cis acquaintances related stories about how they know a trans person whose documents got "taken" by the feds

wish me luck

[-] WoodScientist@sh.itjust.works 13 points 2 weeks ago
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[-] Bob_Robertson_IX@discuss.tchncs.de 28 points 2 weeks ago

The bill would create criminal penalties for election officials who register any noncitizens, even if they did so by mistake

Creating a job that no sane person would ever want to take. The people who do take the job will be overworked, since their office will always be understaffed, and they will tend to err on the side of caution and deny registration as the default.

How about also creating criminal penalties for election officials who refuse to register any citizen, even if they did so by mistake? /s

[-] Ledericas@lemm.ee 24 points 2 weeks ago

4 DINOs also voted for the bills, apparently there are in red districts.

[-] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 11 points 2 weeks ago

Dems pretending to be Republicans so they don't lose their jobs always, always, always works. Just ask anyone serving in a Texas/Florida swing seat.

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[-] Treczoks@lemmy.world 15 points 2 weeks ago

While I consider it evil to exclude legal voters from voting, I cannot wrap my head around the point that about 9% of American citizens cannot prove their citizenship. At least the tax office should know about them, shouldn't they? Or are they "invisible" to the system to avoid getting taxed?

And that they cannot match a person to a birth certificate just because that person got married is such a colossal bureaucratic failure that it is hard to believe. Don't they record marriages anywhere?

[-] match@pawb.social 21 points 2 weeks ago

paying taxes has nothing to do with citizenship, even noncitizens pay taxes

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[-] dryfter@lemm.ee 19 points 2 weeks ago

Transgender people have that exact problem right now, even with passports. They effectively cannot prove they are a citizen even with a birth certificate because of Trump's executive orders.

I only have an enhanced NY state driver's license. I don't have Real ID or even a passport. While I'm male and identify as male, I don't have my birth certificate. If they require something like Real ID, passport, or birth certificate the likelihood of me voting pretty much becomes nil. I don't drive, rely on public transportation, and would have to go to a county office and hope I can give them the right information to get a copy of my birth certificate.

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[-] Ledericas@lemm.ee 10 points 2 weeks ago

most of them likely dont have thier birth certificate, updated passports, or thier marriage certificate on hand. its actually quite a hassle to get a passport, even more for naturalized citenzenship, its the point that gop knows, its inconvience as hell if you have FT job. you also need valid proof of to even get your citizenship or passport.

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[-] SuperCub@sh.itjust.works 14 points 2 weeks ago

When are the Dems going to actually care?

[-] Franklin@lemmy.ca 16 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

I'm not trying to be negative but what are the Democrats supposed to do in this situation?

They have none of the levers of power because they were voted out of them.

again I'm not saying you're wrong, I'm a Canadian so there may be a gap in my knowledge about things within their power

[-] stringere@sh.itjust.works 10 points 2 weeks ago

4 of them voted for the bill

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[-] selkiesidhe@lemm.ee 14 points 1 week ago

Are we at the point yet where we are openly called a dictatorship and humanitarian forces start stepping in...?

We need an outside group to handle our elections because a third of our country is so fucking corrupt it's VILE

[-] DeusUmbra@lemmy.world 12 points 1 week ago

Don't worry, next time around we won't be voting with ballots. We'll be voting with something a lot more effective at removing Nazis from power.

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