I want to see more oligarchs on the receiving end of assassination plots
in movies. I really liked Day of the Jackal. More of that, please.
~~in movies~~
John Wick: NYC (IRL Edition)
I want more movies and shows where the bodyguard grows a conscience and murders the corrupt POS they're guarding.
Related: I've imagined a story where the obedient grunts in the military realize they just the nameless henchmen in an evil organization.
"Good Guy" just kills the "Bad Guy"
Like just fucking do it, stop being a loser.
The Expanse Spoiler
I didn't read the books but when it came to the "You're not that guy" scene, I was about to be so pissed if they spared the guy. But good thing they actually turn it to one of the best scenes of the show.
"I am that guy"
💥🔫
There's an episode of doctor who with a similar interaction (to the spoiler).
BBEG: This is why good men always lose. They follow too many rules.
Doctor: That's where you're wrong. Good men don't need rules.
From memory, so exact phrasing is probably wrong but the idea is there
Good men don't need any rules. Today is not the day to find out why I have so many.
There are not nearly enough tragic endings in media.
I once was recommended a Japanese anime, "Gate". It's about a fantasy world trying to invade our modern realm. Earth strikes back with modern weapons, the fantasy world has no chance with their dragons, Orks and magic.
This I would love to see more of, asymmetrical warfare, it's just a power fantasy, but a fun one!
Warrior princesses (or otherwise 'fighting refined ladies') -- Who aren't tomboys, and are in fact fully feminine coded, but can still kick ass with the best of 'em. (Princess Leia, some iterations of Zelda, Rarity from MLP in a way though she's not a princess, etc.)
I love this! You should join us on !WomensStuff@lazysoci.al likes: pretty clothing dislikes: patriarchy
Description says "women only trans inclusive"
... I'm a he/they queer man, so I shan't say anything. But I might have a look at the place anyway.
Ahhh sorry mate I read it as "we" not who. Your comment was pretty feminist too so thanks 😊
Is cool :)
I’m not sure what it’s called, buy I love the trope of where a large party gets split off into two smaller parties who eventually reunite. This split could be forced through physical events or it could just be a relationship split between friends.
Lord the Rings is a great example of what I mean. Frodo is forced to leave after seeing what the Ring does and Sam goes with him, while Mary and Pippin get kidnapped and have their own adventure, and finally Aragorn and his merry trio go help the war effort in Rohan. They all end up reunited in the end though.
Sounds like my family's last trip to Six Flags.
Found family.
It's not lacking by any means I just eat that shit up like it's cocaine
Bad guys are actually the good guys.
I've always been a fan of space aliens interacting with ancient civilization on Earth, like in Stargate the movie
Yeah, it is interesting to see how the Predator franchise did it.
I want another good space based sci fi TV show, preferably with lots of alien species.
Yeah, there is Star Trek and Star Wars, but I want more.
Have you watched the Orville yet? Its fun!
Same. I’d love a Battlestar Galactica meets SG-1 type show. Something gritty, fun characters, they go everywhere and there’s both space and terrestrial mayhem.
What I’d actually love is a series that gives a gritty take (Andor-like) on an elite Imperial squad that does missions and treats the Rebellion like the bad guys and the Empire like the good guys but maybe at series finale we do the switcheroo so we don’t completely humanize an empire that wants to kill everyone.
Same. Even if there’s not really a lot of aliens. Something like the Expanse pleaaaase.
The Orville isn't new, but I rarely see it mentioned on internet forums. I didn't even know about it until recently.
I was unaware! I’ll check it out. Thanks!
I love good guys who look like they're bad guys.
Have you checked out the whole “Noir” genre? Burnt out old schlubby heros who look like bad guys is a whole thing there. Humphrey Bogart in the Maltese Falcon, Terriers for a more modern take.
I haven't, but I will now!
One niche I think is severely underserved is like. A good guy who serves straight up classic villain aesthetics. Like someone who's refined, and cunning, always plotting something, and if the setting has superpowers, they got an 'evil' coded power... But their goals are those of a good guy. I don't think I've ever seen a character like that, unless you count Col. Mustang from the Fullmetal Alchemist anime/manga, who ticks at least a few of the boxes.
(If you know of OTHER characters who fit my description, PLEASE tell me)
Batman
Actually.
.... Yeah, pretty much. I hadn't thought of it, but... Yeah.
Or at least some batmen. Since every comic hero is really about sixty different characters.
You may like Code: Geass then.
You might enjoy the web novels Worm. The main protagonist is basically exactly the above, an antihero by necessity with an "evil" power. The book in general lends itself to grey morality, even for the heroes. The actual villains? Actual evil. The author likes to imagine unorthodox super powers and really makes the characters with them really sing.
Be warned though, it's a web novel that is literally something like "normal" 20 books long. Besides a rare lurch or two, it's also a surprisingly very good 20 novels.
HAH! My friends have been pushing Worm on me for years, and I've been sloooowly making my way through it (though good god that beginning part with all the bullying took me out of the story for 2 years)
BuuuuuuuUuuuuuuuuuuuuuuut -- Taylor is more of an Antihero Classic. She'd fit right in with so many comic anti-heroes, even if her story is a lot darker due to not having to answer to executives like most comic antiheroes do. Her vibe is too -- Scrappy for what I was longing for. Though she does indeed have the evil superpower, and fights bad guys who are so much worse than her villain-gang friends. She's always desperately struggling for survival and figuring shit out as she goes along.
What I was fantasizing about is more like "what if Coil was the hero" (since you mentioned Worm...). Not 'the hero of his own story', not 'scheming and doing bad things for the right reasons' (which seems to be what the story is going for tbqh -- But when I fell off last time he was JUST ABOUT to have Taylor and the Undersiders killed), but straight up heroic... While maintaining all his "cultured mafia leader who is infallibly polite, but has a plan to kill everyone in secret, and gives off an aura of absolute control and confidence" vibe.
Villain Classic. But not a villain.
Glad to see you already picked it up. I read it in "one sitting" over the a couple of months at a slow job. The start was painful, but added really good context to her character.
I cant speak to a Coil like villain that isn't Coil in the books, but if you are were I think you are, there are many "cold blooded and amazing actions by an anti-hero, villain or hero with a plan" instances left in the book, many of them major plot points.
I cant say anymore without major spoilers, but if the above is your criteria, the books have some pleasant surprises for you if you finish them.
Bad guys who aren't misunderstood but aren't bad. They occupy a niche mindspace in which they have a genuine and noble goal but their goal is mutually exclusive with the good guy's goals (the Shadowlord from Nier Gestalt)
Then, on the flip side, bad guys who know that they're bad and revel in it (Jack Horner from Puss in Boots)
Good guys who are good leaders. They have no superhuman abilities but their power is to bring out the best in others. They don't beat the bad guys through sheer strength or being inspired by the power of friendship (which IMO is just the same thing), but they do so by strategically playing to people's strengths (Senku from Dr. Stone)
In movies? I wanna see people be more casual sexual with friends, without it being a big deal. Cause that's how my friendships are like. A little fun times is not something to write home about, most of the time
It’s hard to write good sex into something and not have it detract from the plot. Most movies are plot driven and the casual sexual angle doesn’t normally contribute to advancing the plot (not saying it isn’t possible). It could be used in the worlds-building phase but then would also be a one and done thing.
Romance stories where the story doesn't end the moment they kiss/confess/become a couple. There's more of those lately so I'm happy.
Last year I watched anime Ragna Crimson, and I really liked "He is not an enemy that you use strategy to fight with. He is an enemy you use strategy to not fight with." along with the general strategic feeling of Crimson's actions. I'm open for recommendations, but I don't know when will I find time to watch them.
Sentient, autonomous, giant fighter mechas.
So far the most popular franchise with this is Transformers, but most of their media is mediocre at best. There are some exceptions like a few of the comics and some of the series which are really good, but overall as a franchise they are lacking unfortunately. I really love the trope though.
The other franchise with this would be Bionicle but I can't say I know much about it.
There are plenty of mechas out there, but they don't tick all the boxes for this trope. Most are either non sentient or require a human pilot to be active. And those which are sentient and autonomous are rarely fighters.
So if you know of any - please let me know. Thanks.
EVAs (from evangelion) are sentient. And can be autonomous but -everyone would rather they didn't
I've recently been going through Persona 4 Golden, and I love Kanji. He's a rough guy who people assume is a bully (for example, he beat up a biker gang), but he has a heart of gold - for example he crochets dolls for a kid to play with. He's very interested (and talented) in arts & crafts, but at the beginning he's ashamed of others looking down on him for that.
One of my favorite tropes, and quickly one of my favorite characters.
Bodyguard romance trope.
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