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submitted 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) by Woland@lemm.ee to c/technology@beehaw.org

Sub.Rehab lists relocated Subreddits' new homes in the Fediverse or other platforms

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[-] Anarch157a@kbin.social 58 points 1 year ago

It worries me that all those communities moving to Discord will one day suffer though all this all over again, once Discord enshittifies and drives them out. Relying on a closed, proprietary and centralized service for user-generated content is a bad idea, as we all learned already.

[-] redcalcium@c.calciumlabs.com 30 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Of all places to host your community in, why Discord? Discord is not indexed by search engines. If you wrote a long, thought-provoking piece there (I've seen many people do it), it practically lost forever after the discussion move a few screens forward in a few hours. People from the future can't benefit from what you wrote when they're searching for similar topic in a search engine. The same can be said with Telegram and WhatsApp groups which are popular in certain communities.

[-] BarryZuckerkorn@beehaw.org 2 points 1 year ago

Discord is not indexed by search engines. If you wrote a long, thought-provoking piece there (I’ve seen many people do it), it practically lost forever after the discussion move a few screens forward in a few hours.

Some might consider that to be a plus. For certain types of communication, that ephemeral nature is preferred.

[-] dog@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago

Me. I just like to troll without having my trolling sounds indexed by every search engine to ever exist. Why does google have to know the content of all my shitty jokes?

[-] zombiepete@beehaw.org 2 points 1 year ago

I agree; Discord is great for voice chatting, but I can’t follow conversations in there. Maybe I’m getting too old but it’s not a style that I think is a natural evolution from Reddit.

[-] Mdidi@lemm.ee 12 points 1 year ago

Also -- unless I am missing something here, with Discord you are seeing posts in a strictly chronological order. Yes, you can like and react to posts, but that won't bubble and auto-curate great content to the top. I was once in a very popular Discord and the amount of random posts filling up the feed made me leave it after some time.

[-] stagen@feddit.dk 4 points 1 year ago

Discord has a built in forum like interface, it's quite decent - but as others have said, it's not indexed by google and thus pretty useless for newcomers.

[-] Mdidi@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago

Oh it does? And with those forums you can vote content up to make them more visible? I thought it was just an endless stream in various channels.

[-] zombiepete@beehaw.org 1 points 1 year ago

Boy, me too. Completely news to me; I am getting old! 😂

[-] Deestan@beehaw.org 2 points 1 year ago

It will probably happen soon also. :/ The global economic situation that drove Reddit and Twitter to desperation applies to everyone else also.

[-] Goronmon@beehaw.org 21 points 1 year ago

The title feels a bit off. I doubt very many of the subreddits have actually "relocated". As the site itself states, these are just lists of alternatives that provide topics that match existing subreddits.

Most of the subreddits mentioned are still going to be active (especially in comparison to their alternatives) for the foreseeable future.

[-] tool@r.rosettast0ned.com 8 points 1 year ago

The ones that are confirmed have an orange checkmark on them.

[-] lazylion_ca@lemmy.ca 18 points 1 year ago

I don't know what 196 is and at this point I'm too afraid to ask.

[-] theblueredditrefugee@beehaw.org 8 points 1 year ago

Literally just ppl post whatever tf they want there lmao. The only rule is "post shit". I always thought it was weird

[-] nailbar@sopuli.xyz 8 points 1 year ago

I think the rule is more like "post anything, as long as you post something". It doesn't have to be shit, but it usually is.

[-] TooL@kbin.social 12 points 1 year ago

LOL.. the link they have for the 3D Printing community is just some guy posting "Balls" over and over again.. Not so sure they got that one right.

Edit: Also... the expanse sub moving to discord is big sad.. Wish they'd recreate that sub somewhere on the fediverse instead..

[-] Gull@kbin.social 8 points 1 year ago

Creating an instance is not free and requires some effort (including a little research). Discord is free and creating a server is as easy as falling off a log. I don't like Discord, but let's be objective about why this happens.

[-] TechyDad@beehaw.org 9 points 1 year ago

Thanks for posting this. It will help me replace a few more of the subreddits I loved going to with Lemmy alternatives. I might still need to go to Reddit for a couple of subreddits (one local one and one hobby one), but my goal is to reduce my Reddit usage as much as possible.

[-] twinpop@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago

Same here. Dumb question but are you using Lemmy to organize kbin? What’s the difference?

[-] wjrii@kbin.social 5 points 1 year ago

It's roughly equivalent to using Outlook versus Thunderbird for your email. Same protocol, same ability to interact, but different codebase, slightly different interface, and possibly a few tweaks around the edges where the protocol itself doesn't demand a certain way of doing things.

So, for instance, a "!" link in Lemmy doesn't work in kbin, but remove the exclamation point and it will be fine. A Lemmy community is identical to a Kbin magazine. Properly configured and federated, a Lemmy and a Kbin instance are completely interoperable with each other. Kbin has the "microblog" tab that integrates it better with Mastodon, but I haven't seen a lot of discussion around that part of things, since link aggregation is driving the current increase in users.

[-] CDN@beehaw.org 9 points 1 year ago

Great idea, but there's too many empty and unused communities cluttering the front page.

[-] mPony@kbin.social 10 points 1 year ago

Give them time. It takes a while to foster a vibrant community.

[-] LennethAegis@kbin.social 7 points 1 year ago
[-] at_an_angle@lemmy.one 7 points 1 year ago

Dang. No NCD...I need my war shit posting fix

[-] Zoop@beehaw.org 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

There's one on sh.itjust.works (with around 1,000 subscribers,) but they aren't currently federated with Beehaw, so if your account is a Beehaw account, you'll have to make an account on sh.itjust.works or another instance that feterates with them if you'd like to post, comment, or vote. I don't know if it's the same mods as the original, though.

Here's the link: https://sh.itjust.works/c/noncredibledefense

[-] Zoop@beehaw.org 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I saw one on a Lemmy Instance, but it may not be federated with Beehaw. Let me check my accounts on other instances and see if I can find it and I'll link it to you if I can.

*Edit: Welp! I thought this comment hadn't gone through since it wasn't showing up here or on my account page even after refreshing, so I just made a fresh comment once I found the link. Whoops! See my other reply for the info and link.

[-] NiklzNDimz@beehaw.org 7 points 1 year ago

Thank you for posting!

To anyone else: Any thoughts on when/if we'll be able to subscribe to communities on kbin from lemmy?

[-] TheOneCurly@lemmy.theonecurly.page 9 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

It's working for me right now, the only trick is to use the URL in the search bar instead of the !<community>@<instance> format.

eg: https://kbin.social/m/AskKbin

[-] NiklzNDimz@beehaw.org 7 points 1 year ago

Ah, thanks for this. I am on mobile so had to remember to expand the sidebar in order to see the subscribe button.

[-] enitoni@beehaw.org 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

~~This is not working for me, I'm trying to subscribe to https://kbin.social/m/aspiememes but nothing is showing up.~~

So you have to make sure the search is set to "All" and not "Community"

But apparently, nothing is showing up on the page itself. Bug? https://beehaw.org/c/aspiememes@kbin.social

I noticed that too on my instance, but maybe 10 minutes after subscribing posts started federating properly.

[-] redcalcium@c.calciumlabs.com 2 points 1 year ago

It's actually working, but there is no recent activity on that community around the time you add that community, which is why it appear empty. To manually populate your instance with the older posts, try copy pasting the old individual posts you'd like to "pull" in the search page.

[-] potato@lolimbeer.com 5 points 1 year ago

You actually can already.

If no one has done it already, you’ll take the full URL to the “magazine” on kbin and pop it in the search bar.

After a few moments it should pop up and you should be able to navigate to the channel and subscribe.

An example of a kbin community on my instance: https://lolimbeer.com/c/mechanicalkeyboards@kbin.social

[-] NiklzNDimz@beehaw.org 3 points 1 year ago

I gotcha. It's a bit fiddly on mobile but see what you mean. Thanks!

[-] potato@lolimbeer.com 6 points 1 year ago

It’s all completely fiddly, lol.

It’s neat! But there’s a definitely a lot of things that aren’t quite that intuitive.

Glad I was able to help though!

[-] lupec@lemmy.lpcha.im 4 points 1 year ago

Great resource, thank you!

[-] ArugulaZ@kbin.social 4 points 1 year ago

Useful indeed. I'll have to make a note of that.

[-] theblueredditrefugee@beehaw.org 3 points 1 year ago

Is raddle federated with lemmy and kbin? Haven't seen any of those posts show up here - just now learning about it

[-] MoshBit@beehaw.org 3 points 1 year ago

I've read elsewhere that raddle is pretty anti-federation which is really stupid

[-] LobsterDog@frig.social 2 points 1 year ago

It is not, it doesn't use the ActivityPub protocol.

[-] ElysiumXII@beehaw.org 3 points 1 year ago

Good to see this list growing, hopefully it continues to grow

[-] vintageballs@feddit.de 3 points 1 year ago

For some reason, this site is basically unusable in Firefox Android for me, as I can only scroll at dreadfully slow speed and what feels like 1 fps. Everything is fine on desktop though.

[-] winterstillness@beehaw.org 4 points 1 year ago

Weird, I don't have this issue. I'm using a Zenfone 9.

[-] cadeje@beehaw.org 2 points 1 year ago

Huh. It actually runs fine for me on android and firefox. I did the thing though where you can download a website as an app:

https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/use-web-apps-firefox-android

[-] PeachMan@lemmy.one 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Works fine for me, Galaxy S23. Maybe try clearing the site cache+cookies. Tap the little lock icon in your URL bar to do that.

[-] Showroom7561@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 year ago

We need a replacement for r/frugal 😃

[-] EnderWi99in@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago

This is tremendously helpful thanks for posting!

[-] evistre@beehaw.org 2 points 1 year ago

This is really handy! Thank you!

[-] khalic@beehaw.org 2 points 1 year ago

Oh boy, unfortunate choice of words for the slogan given the news lately

[-] stagen@feddit.dk 1 points 1 year ago

Great resource, thanks!

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