I'm all for reforming the prison system. However I think it's funny these people are crying about it now that they are subject to it after not caring about others in the prison system.

.>Commit domestic terrorist acts get domestic terrorist sentences.

I mean, they said it....

I thought it was only seven "na"s.

Some people think if you hate the same people hard enough, you're on the same side -- and the Proud Boys were happy to have someone brown as their front guy for a while there. "See? It's about values!"

The reality is that plenty of them hate his guts for not being white, I remember these guys split into two factions a while back based ok whether they would accept brown people who hated other brown people hard enough or not.

Extremists will happily accept the help of people they dislike when they're weak, particularly if it lends them legitimacy.

When they gain power the purges start.

https://www.rawstory.com/amp/civil-war-brewing-inside-proud-boys-as-top-leader-says-hes-done-pretending-isnt-a-nazi-2649553246

There was a bit of a kerfuffle over that. I don't follow it closely enough to know how that turned out.

Racists are generally sheltered, easily lead, uneducated, and guillible.

True racism isnt generally caused by people they know, its by being told that "they" are taking your jobs, stealing your welfare, clogging your hospitals, driving your living costs up, etc, etc.

Its a tool used by the powerful to divert attention. The easily lead take it at face value and hate "them". If they meet a "reformed" person of colour, they see them as "one of the good ones".

While these racists can be outwardly horrible to individuals, they typically dont "hate" the person. They hate "them". The group that doesnt really exist, that they are told are making their own life worse.

A great example is in the Louis Theroux documentary, Louis and the Nazis. He spends time with various white supremacists, and while hanging out with one of the community leaders he meets his TV repair man, a Mexican man that has been servicing his televisions for years who the white supremacist leader considers a friend. One of the leaders side kicks is also fucking a Mexican woman.

The Mexicans that they know are "the good ones". Its the rest of "them" that are the problem in their eyes.

Its an unfortunately common occurence in people that they can be presented with direct evidence contrary to their beliefs, but they are so far gone down their rabbit hole that they consider the evidence as either an outlier or anomoly and not somethign worth analysing in terms of their perception.

He was one of the voices for Latinos For Trump. The Proud Boys are not against black or Latino people.

No, it doesn't. Where are you getting your info?

Possessing Pot by offense count, min-max sentence, min-max fine

1. 0 days - 1 year, $0-1000
2. 15 days - 2 years, $0-2500
3. 90 days - 3 years, $0-5000

(3 is actually 3+ but that does weird things to the list format.)

Separately, Seditious Conspiracy has a max jail time of 20 years (I couldn't find any cap on its fine), so this means Tarrio is being sentenced for both it and at least 1 other charge (which could be a second count of the same for all I know).

United States Justice system is a joke.

Agreed. Prison in the US is tortuous and that is the point. It ruins your prospects when you get out, too. Ensuring crime is more likely. Prison in the US is absolutely pointless in the vast majority of cases to actually decrease crime.

America also has disproportionately long prison sentences for all types of crimes. 33 years ensures this person will be ~72yo when he gets out. So he will immediately be on medicare and likely retired, if possible. At that point, the only reason to not just execute a person is because you could later overturn the conviction.

We keep people in prison so long we're effectively denying them any more life while also spending huge gobs of money to do so AND also denying them any productivity to benefit society. It really is just about the American bloodthirst for revenge.