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[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 178 points 1 year ago

The stupidest part is he filed a lawsuit so he could legally call himself a founder of Tesla.

https://www.motorbiscuit.com/elon-musk-wanted-tesla-co-founder-badly-took-lawsuit-make-legal-paper/

That shouldn't even be legal.

[-] alp 8 points 1 year ago

How the fuck does that work? You can't just change the facts of what happened through a legal proceedings. Rich folks like musk live in alien world

[-] notfromhere@lemmy.one 85 points 1 year ago

What the hell does this have to do with antiwork?

[-] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 55 points 1 year ago

It's an example of a billionaire boss taking all the credit for others work...

[-] BarterClub@sh.itjust.works 10 points 1 year ago

Yup, you nailed it. Doing the work but not getting anything in return except a pay check.

[-] Soulg@lemmy.world 43 points 1 year ago

Probably just because it's musk bashing

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[-] Xanthrax@lemmy.world 25 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

We want to be acknowledged for our accomplishments and not have the credit go to our current/ eventual boss. It's just a metaphor.

But also, yeah, Musk is a dingle berry.

[-] imgonnatrythis@lemm.ee 16 points 1 year ago

I doubt those guys have to work anymore

[-] callouscomic@lemm.ee 52 points 1 year ago

The longer I live, the more often I learn that so called self-made geniuses like Bill Gates didn't even do the thing they're known for, and none of them did any of it alone.

[-] barsoap@lemm.ee 51 points 1 year ago

Bill Gates at least can code. His contributions to Microsoft were mostly being a cutthroat businessman, but he can code, and did, in particular the MS Basic runtime. It's all fuzzy but I'd put him at that stage where you can code, but look at your colleagues and realise that you probably shouldn't. The not so fabled 1x developer. Not entirely rarely well-suited both as manager and QA because they understand enough to be helpful but, ego permitting, seeing they have no talent, don't get their creative instincts tied up with actually writing code.

Steve Jobs, OTOH...

[-] phoneymouse@lemmy.world 28 points 1 year ago

Bill Gates main contribution was having is mommy get him a deal to provide an OS to IBM.

Gates didn’t have an OS, so he bought DOS from another company and repackaged it as his own to licensed it to IBM.

[-] BitOneZero@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago

Steve Jobs main claim was that visual design and walling people into marriage of software + hardware as a package was important. And based on the loyalty, profits, he seemed to have focused on the right thing.

As quick as Apple could, they went away from the kit Apple I into expensive unique-looking systems. The Lisa being US$9,995 (equivalent to well over $30,000 in 2023)... NeXT was pretty much the same high-end vision.

Bill Gates bailing out Apple so there could be two main companies like Pepsi and Coke, I really don't get why people don't criticize that. Microsoft was ahead in the Smartphone area long before the iPhone, if they had not bailed out Apple...

[-] phoneymouse@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago

If Microsoft hadn’t bailed out Apple, your phone would still feature a start menu.

[-] dx1@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago

You mean the app drawer?

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[-] Kerred@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago

This applies to pretty much every group, like the Nobel Prize.

I guess Satoru Iwara might be an exception where he just fixed struggling games like Earthbound by himself 😄

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[-] knexcar@kbin.social 47 points 1 year ago

I thought Elon Musk was the founder of Tesla.

[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 94 points 1 year ago

He'd sure like you to think so.

[-] ThirdWorldOrder@lemm.ee 66 points 1 year ago

You shouldn’t be downvoted for thinking this. Many people do which is why this post exists to begin with.

[-] Honytawk@lemmy.zip 51 points 1 year ago

He sued them in order to be able to call himself that.

But no matter how much money he throws at it, he can't change a definition.

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[-] Strangle@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago

Wait until you find out that Tim Apple didn’t found Apple!

[-] ratman150@sh.itjust.works 21 points 1 year ago

Worth noting that Steve Jobs didn't really found Apple either but rather used his friend to do all the leg work and made a brand out of that.

It's actually a really sad origin story if you look into it.

[-] bamboo 6 points 1 year ago

I think Woz would disagree with that, and from everything I've read about that time from him, he was genuinely having a great time. Jobs did screw Woz out of money from Atari, which he was hurt by when finding out, but they were collaborative in founding Apple.

[-] spencerwi@lemm.ee 8 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Notably, Woz found out decades later, after Steve was dead already, when he was interviewed by someone who told him the whole story.

I like to think that if Jobs were alive today, the general public would see him as the Elon Musk type that he was. Instead, he died before his cult of personality could properly sour on him.

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[-] suckmyspez@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago

Elon Musk is a bawbag

[-] batucada@lemmy.world 24 points 1 year ago

Hey I appreciate your post.

I still blocked enoughmuskspam since it was ironically muskspam

[-] spencerwi@lemm.ee 10 points 1 year ago

Oh, I thought the point of enoughmuskspam was to funnel all the muskspam into it, so that you could block one community and be set.

[-] Mr_Blott@feddit.uk 21 points 1 year ago

Hmmm I'm suspicious of this.

I mean, they both claim in this picture that the have a qualification in "Bullshit" computer science

Sus if you ask me

[-] n3m37h@lemmy.dbzer0.com 16 points 1 year ago

The only thing Musk did for Tesla was give these 2 guys $ from his PayPal buy out, in which Elon fucked everyone else involved too

Elon is a POS

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[-] SuperSleuth@lemm.ee 14 points 1 year ago

This post is absolutely stupid, but keeps getting reposted because people have a hate boner for Elon Musk.

Tesla started in July 2003, Elon invested $6.5 Million in February 2004. That makes him a co-founder. Their first electric car was released in 2008 with Elon as CEO.(1)

You don't get a startup to the seventh most valuable company by being lazy or lucky.(2)

[-] DragonTypeWyvern@literature.cafe 47 points 1 year ago

Wow, if only we had a name for someone that invests in a company after it is founded.

[-] SCB@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

We do. Principal investors are often listed as cofounders in startups, if they take a significant role in company operations from early in the company lifespan

https://foundersnetwork.com/blog/founder-vs-cofounder/

Cofounder isn't a title. It's a role.

I know this gets in the way of easy dunking, but reality is often disappointing.

[-] relative_iterator@sh.itjust.works 16 points 1 year ago

The status of “founder” or “co-founder” denotes a historical fact about who was responsible for creating the business. As such, these are permanent titles that can’t be revoked later on.

Titles. From your own article 😂

[-] SCB@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Yes and if you read the article, you learn why someone could be made co-founder by actually getting the business moving.

If I start a business today, I don't actually have to do anything except pay for a business license, and a co-founder could be the person who helps me get it off the ground.

This isn't some obscure "gotcha" thing. There's a reason he won his decision. Do you not realize you're literally arguing against reality?

It's weird as fuck because you could not manufacture a target as easy to make fun of as Musk, except possibly Trump himself. There's already plenty, so you don't need to make up new shit.

Everything the dude has done in like the last 5 years is just prime meme material, so idk why people keep reaching for this nonsensical shit.

[-] DragonTypeWyvern@literature.cafe 15 points 1 year ago

Capital always pretends its role is innovative when it is just exploitative.

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[-] yawn@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago

Ok but the Wikipedia for Tesla's history says that musk specifically did not take a role in company operations, he was just hypercritical of design.

So technically he shouldn't be a co founder, he didn't fill that role.

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[-] dmonzel@lemmy.world 16 points 1 year ago

Boots are for feet, not for licking.

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[-] indepndnt@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago

Luck is absolutely a factor.

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[-] HawlSera@lemm.ee 10 points 1 year ago

Elon the Musky Husky did not found Tesla He signed a contract letting him say he did in advertising.

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[-] someguy3@lemmy.ca 8 points 1 year ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

Here's a presentation from Tarpenning on Tesla's founding. I was seriously impressed.

https://youtu.be/JW95LCkxlb4

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