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Trump has rejected the EU's "zero-for-zero" tariff offer on cars and industrial goods, demanding instead that the bloc commit to purchasing $350 billion of American energy to offset the trade deficit.

Following his implementation of 20% tariffs on EU goods last week, which triggered significant market downturns, Trump indicated openness to negotiations while emphasizing his "America First" stance.

He also criticized EU product standards as "non-monetary barriers" designed to block American exports.

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[-] Cryan24@lemmy.world 124 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

The EU are currently trying the carrot (offering zero for zero), Next comes the stick (targeted import and export tarrifs).. it would hurt the EU, but cripple the US.

[-] InvertedParallax@lemm.ee 80 points 1 week ago

Just tariff cloud stocks, watch everything crumble.

[-] Skua@kbin.earth 64 points 1 week ago

Coordinate with China on this shit. The EU and China may have their differences, but they have a common goal here and together they substantially outweigh the US

[-] Cryan24@lemmy.world 46 points 1 week ago

I think there is a possibility for an EU, China, Canada plus others.. agreement to smooth over the gap from loss of US trade.

[-] TheRealLinga@sh.itjust.works 18 points 1 week ago

Maybe we are going to see a unification of the world over this! Everyone rallies together to fight the U.S. tariffs, and then there's no more U.S.! World peace at last. Thanks Trump!

[-] reev@sh.itjust.works 8 points 1 week ago

I love the vision but despite everything we're still human.

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[-] AwkwardBroccolli@lemmy.ml 20 points 1 week ago

EU should target the services. US exports services like google, meta etc than goods. If that happens, US goes to depression.

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[-] Mothra@mander.xyz 12 points 1 week ago

I don't live anywhere in the northern hemisphere and I can't say I know much about economy and international affairs. Which targeted tariffs you think the EU will impose that will cripple US?

[-] unexposedhazard@discuss.tchncs.de 38 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Either tariff all big tech companies or just outright ban them from being allowed in the public sector. If you ban amazon, microsoft, google, meta, etc then the US economy will be in shambles. Big techs revenue is like ~10% of the total US GDP.

[-] Mysteriarch@slrpnk.net 10 points 1 week ago

The EU will never ban them.

[-] WanderingThoughts@europe.pub 20 points 1 week ago

No, but the plan is floating around to tax EU used data for foreign companies right into unprofitablily.

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[-] catloaf@lemm.ee 74 points 1 week ago

They should say "okay but only green energy, no oil or gas"

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[-] Skiluros@sh.itjust.works 68 points 1 week ago

Sounds like there won't be any good faith negotiations with the US.

This sounds like BS, does the US even have enough capxitt or export $350 billion worth of energy (oil, LNG?).

[-] PetteriPano@lemmy.world 56 points 1 week ago

Even I can sell $350B worth of energy if I increase the price enough.

[-] taladar@sh.itjust.works 14 points 1 week ago

That is one expensive AAA battery.

[-] Zier@fedia.io 64 points 1 week ago

But he said the tariffs were permanent. This was not a 'negotiating' tactic. Oh wait, he fucking lied, like he does every time he breathes. This is the "art of the deal", AKA the bad deal. What an idiot bully con man. President Felon.

[-] Skua@kbin.earth 19 points 1 week ago

They basically are permanent if his alternative is the EU buying the entire GDP of Finland in extra LNG every year

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[-] yagurlreese@lemmy.world 49 points 1 week ago

oh my good lord he's and actual toddler

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[-] MehBlah@lemmy.world 44 points 1 week ago

Just say no EU. The more he hears the word the more it will drive home how wrong he is. Of course his type is incapable of admitting that they are wrong.

He also criticized EU product standards as “non-monetary barriers” designed to block American exports.

lol, lmfao even

product standards exist for a reason.

[-] Litebit@lemmy.world 39 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

They don't need $350B of US energy. why not sell something they need instead for forcing your customer to eat "McDonald's" when they don't need or want to.

Might as well force penguins to buy ice cube and snow made in US.

[-] gonzo-rand19@moist.catsweat.com 10 points 1 week ago

Honestly, pressuring someone into a purchase is how they start to think that maybe your products aren't worth their perceived value. Otherwise, why the hard sell?

Art of the deal, my ass. I wonder if he can even feel embarrassment or if he simply hides it behind his "masterful leader" persona.

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[-] pyre@lemmy.world 37 points 1 week ago

how about no, fuckface

[-] Monument@lemmy.sdf.org 34 points 1 week ago

Wait, wait, wait.

Trump, under the direction of parties unknown, is trying to force the EU to buy U.S. energy resources, and that’s the linchpin of his trade war with them?

Is he trying to give Europe a nudge back to Russian oil supplies?

[-] Milk_Sheikh@lemm.ee 20 points 1 week ago

If you’re a (western) European leader returning to Russian energy is at best shortsighted amnesia, at worst blatant malfeasance. There’s several reasons to not go back to Russia:

  • Official legal based sanctions on Russian energy
  • Ukrainian drone based ‘sanctions’ on Russian energy
  • Russia’s track record of energy blackmail/hybrid warfare
  • LNG and oil production available in your EEZ/the EU, albeit at higher cost than imported
  • Domestic solar, hydro, and wind manufacturing/generation is ramping up
  • French nuclear energy exports
  • Domestic politics ie. voters turning against Russian imperial aggression/expansionism

Eastern Europe has a slightly different incentive mix, but there’s still a lot of reasons to not

[-] Monument@lemmy.sdf.org 14 points 1 week ago

Those are very well considered points, but Trump is an idiot.

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[-] Routhinator@startrek.website 15 points 1 week ago

Or y'know, give Canada somewhere else to sell theirs.

[-] Jimius@discuss.tchncs.de 31 points 1 week ago

Wait, isn't this just extortion? Smashing in a shop's windows and telling the owner if he wants to put in new ones he needs to pay the guy with the bat first.

[-] stephen01king@lemmy.zip 12 points 1 week ago

Always has been.

[-] CircaV@lemmy.ca 25 points 1 week ago

Amerikkka can fuck off.

[-] LordWiggle@lemmy.world 20 points 1 week ago

Ah, so now they are begging for money. Hard no, pass, skip, forget it, we're good thanks.

[-] fake_meows@lemm.ee 11 points 1 week ago

" I fully share your loathing of European free-loading. It's PATHETIC.”

[-] fluxion@lemmy.world 19 points 1 week ago

Ues, becoming energy dependent on this belligerent administration sounds like a great idea

[-] ProfHillbilly@lemmy.world 19 points 1 week ago

Fuck Trump. Buy nothing from us. Tell yur leaders fuck not and burn down the country if they do.

[-] axh@lemmy.world 16 points 1 week ago

Ok, let's negotiate. How about this: I'll buy one Big Mac, and in return US will buy 3000 Volkswagens, 1500 Mercedes(es?!?) and at least 3 French or Italian cars...

That way the US ends up with good cars, and I am willing to risk my own health in order to improve the relations.

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[-] BlackSheep@lemmy.ca 16 points 1 week ago

FUCK YOU TRUMP

[-] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 15 points 1 week ago

He says a lot of shit that doesn't make any sense.

Seriously, he's demented.

[-] GissaMittJobb@lemmy.ml 13 points 1 week ago

Pass. I hear China has a lot of spare renewable stuff on discount now that you're no longer going to be trading with them, we'll enjoy those instead.

[-] umbrella@lemmy.ml 11 points 1 week ago

this just sounds like hes now doing overtly what the us has been doing covertly.

[-] Litebit@lemmy.world 11 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

EU should squeeze the Tariff wokism out of Snowflake Trump.

[-] SirMaple__@lemmy.ca 10 points 1 week ago
[-] thisorthatorwhatever@lemmy.world 10 points 1 week ago

Where is the U.S.A going to get the extra gas/petrol? They are an importer of energy themselves. LOL

[-] kiagam@lemmy.world 19 points 1 week ago

In 2023, the United States imported about 8.51 million barrels per day (b/d) of petroleum from 86 countries. In 2023, the United States exported about 10.15 million b/d of petroleum to 173 countries and 3 U.S. territories.

The resulting total net petroleum imports (imports minus exports) were about -1.64 million b/d, which means that the United States was a net petroleum exporter of 1.64 million b/d in 2023.

https://www.eia.gov/tools/faqs/faq.php?id=727&t=6

The US hasn't been a net importer of oil for a long time. The reason there is still oil imports in the US is due to different oil types and refinery configurations, not because total oil production doesn't meet demand.

[-] yournamehere@lemm.ee 8 points 1 week ago

at this point i think the game is just to do something even dumber the next so people forget the other stupid shit like gulf of murica or whatever the idiot came up with the last weeks. he just put a tariffs on eggs...on costly precious eggs....a madman.

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[-] lennee@lemm.ee 9 points 1 week ago

Get bent orange fuckface!

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