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Trump has rejected the EU's "zero-for-zero" tariff offer on cars and industrial goods, demanding instead that the bloc commit to purchasing $350 billion of American energy to offset the trade deficit.

Following his implementation of 20% tariffs on EU goods last week, which triggered significant market downturns, Trump indicated openness to negotiations while emphasizing his "America First" stance.

He also criticized EU product standards as "non-monetary barriers" designed to block American exports.

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[-] Jimius@discuss.tchncs.de 31 points 6 days ago

Wait, isn't this just extortion? Smashing in a shop's windows and telling the owner if he wants to put in new ones he needs to pay the guy with the bat first.

[-] stephen01king@lemmy.zip 12 points 6 days ago

Always has been.

[-] BlackSheep@lemmy.ca 16 points 6 days ago

FUCK YOU TRUMP

[-] Bosht@lemmy.world 8 points 6 days ago

This fucking moron. So he shuts down green energy initiatives here, tries to push oil, then tries to force other countries to buy dirty energy. Fucks sake man it's something new every day.

[-] Litebit@lemmy.world 11 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

EU should squeeze the Tariff wokism out of Snowflake Trump.

[-] Goldholz 8 points 6 days ago

As soon as he spends that much on ukraine

[-] BlackSheep@lemmy.ca 7 points 6 days ago

Whatever, Trump.

[-] ByteJunk@lemmy.world 2 points 6 days ago

And if the EU needed any further incentive to keep rushing for renewable energy, here it is.

[-] melsaskca@lemmy.ca 1 points 6 days ago

That's like walking past a McDonald's and having the manager grab you and drag you inside the store and force you to buy some McNuggets. I am scared that Trump is not an idiot and knows exactly what he wants to achieve. It starts with "I'll show them...".

[-] Cryan24@lemmy.world 124 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

The EU are currently trying the carrot (offering zero for zero), Next comes the stick (targeted import and export tarrifs).. it would hurt the EU, but cripple the US.

[-] InvertedParallax@lemm.ee 80 points 1 week ago

Just tariff cloud stocks, watch everything crumble.

[-] Skua@kbin.earth 64 points 1 week ago

Coordinate with China on this shit. The EU and China may have their differences, but they have a common goal here and together they substantially outweigh the US

[-] Cryan24@lemmy.world 46 points 1 week ago

I think there is a possibility for an EU, China, Canada plus others.. agreement to smooth over the gap from loss of US trade.

[-] TheRealLinga@sh.itjust.works 18 points 1 week ago

Maybe we are going to see a unification of the world over this! Everyone rallies together to fight the U.S. tariffs, and then there's no more U.S.! World peace at last. Thanks Trump!

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[-] AwkwardBroccolli@lemmy.ml 20 points 1 week ago

EU should target the services. US exports services like google, meta etc than goods. If that happens, US goes to depression.

[-] Cryan24@lemmy.world 1 points 6 days ago

That one could be trickier as many Europeans work for the US big service companies ( Microsoft, Google etc..)

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[-] catloaf@lemm.ee 74 points 1 week ago

They should say "okay but only green energy, no oil or gas"

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[-] Skiluros@sh.itjust.works 68 points 1 week ago

Sounds like there won't be any good faith negotiations with the US.

This sounds like BS, does the US even have enough capxitt or export $350 billion worth of energy (oil, LNG?).

[-] PetteriPano@lemmy.world 56 points 1 week ago

Even I can sell $350B worth of energy if I increase the price enough.

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[-] Zier@fedia.io 64 points 1 week ago

But he said the tariffs were permanent. This was not a 'negotiating' tactic. Oh wait, he fucking lied, like he does every time he breathes. This is the "art of the deal", AKA the bad deal. What an idiot bully con man. President Felon.

[-] Skua@kbin.earth 19 points 1 week ago

They basically are permanent if his alternative is the EU buying the entire GDP of Finland in extra LNG every year

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[-] yagurlreese@lemmy.world 49 points 1 week ago

oh my good lord he's and actual toddler

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[-] MehBlah@lemmy.world 44 points 1 week ago

Just say no EU. The more he hears the word the more it will drive home how wrong he is. Of course his type is incapable of admitting that they are wrong.

He also criticized EU product standards as “non-monetary barriers” designed to block American exports.

lol, lmfao even

product standards exist for a reason.

[-] Litebit@lemmy.world 39 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

They don't need $350B of US energy. why not sell something they need instead for forcing your customer to eat "McDonald's" when they don't need or want to.

Might as well force penguins to buy ice cube and snow made in US.

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[-] pyre@lemmy.world 37 points 1 week ago

how about no, fuckface

[-] Monument@lemmy.sdf.org 34 points 1 week ago

Wait, wait, wait.

Trump, under the direction of parties unknown, is trying to force the EU to buy U.S. energy resources, and that’s the linchpin of his trade war with them?

Is he trying to give Europe a nudge back to Russian oil supplies?

[-] Milk_Sheikh@lemm.ee 20 points 1 week ago

If you’re a (western) European leader returning to Russian energy is at best shortsighted amnesia, at worst blatant malfeasance. There’s several reasons to not go back to Russia:

  • Official legal based sanctions on Russian energy
  • Ukrainian drone based ‘sanctions’ on Russian energy
  • Russia’s track record of energy blackmail/hybrid warfare
  • LNG and oil production available in your EEZ/the EU, albeit at higher cost than imported
  • Domestic solar, hydro, and wind manufacturing/generation is ramping up
  • French nuclear energy exports
  • Domestic politics ie. voters turning against Russian imperial aggression/expansionism

Eastern Europe has a slightly different incentive mix, but there’s still a lot of reasons to not

[-] Wrrzag@lemmy.ml 1 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

Most of these are not really a problem though, even less for the kind of psychos that run the EU. Sanctions can be lifted, and Ukraine shouldn't be able to do much against both Russia and the EU. While renewables and nuclear are increasing, Russian energy could help until they are 100% ready. Voters won't do much if they are told "see, the US is trying to scam us, and in these trying times we've struck a deal with Russia and you'll be paying less for power and heat".

The problem with striking a deal with Russia is that it's not the most reliable partner right now (your 3rd point), but the people in charge can ignore the rest and have no problems sleeping.

Edit: this is not a defense of Russia but a critique of the powers that be in the EU.

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[-] CircaV@lemmy.ca 25 points 1 week ago

Amerikkka can fuck off.

[-] LordWiggle@lemmy.world 20 points 1 week ago

Ah, so now they are begging for money. Hard no, pass, skip, forget it, we're good thanks.

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[-] fluxion@lemmy.world 19 points 1 week ago

Ues, becoming energy dependent on this belligerent administration sounds like a great idea

[-] ProfHillbilly@lemmy.world 19 points 1 week ago

Fuck Trump. Buy nothing from us. Tell yur leaders fuck not and burn down the country if they do.

[-] axh@lemmy.world 16 points 1 week ago

Ok, let's negotiate. How about this: I'll buy one Big Mac, and in return US will buy 3000 Volkswagens, 1500 Mercedes(es?!?) and at least 3 French or Italian cars...

That way the US ends up with good cars, and I am willing to risk my own health in order to improve the relations.

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