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The worst type of person is the person who is so allergic to being "wrong" that they'll constantly double down with new bullshit to try to convince people why it wasn't a mistake in the first place. It's fucking exhausting.
It's honestly so many people! How did admitting you are wrong become so painful for so much of society?
This is the same generation that gave us ‘participation trophies’ so their feelings and their kids’ feelings didn’t ‘get hurt’.
I’m not quite sure where this plague of ‘treat my feelings with kid gloves, otherwise I might die’ got started, but we really need to do something about it.
I literally fired people for this in my IT career. Intolerable.
I think you're mistaking "conservatives and centrists" for "American government"
Who is controlling the American government right now?
the leopard seals.
When has the American government consisted of anyone but conservatives or centrists?
A strong argument could be made for FDR's government at least making steps toward leftist goals, and Jimmy Carter was a lot more progressive than a typical liberal.
Carter was more progressive than a typical liberal? He's the one who abandoned unions and the working class in favor of neoliberalism.
He pardoned the conscientious objectors and draft dodgers, gave the Panama Canal back to Panama, founded the Super Fund to prosecute polluters and clean up spills, lifted the military ban on LGBTQ people serving, etc. Sure, he made some mistakes, particularly as it applies to deregulating numerous industries, but in general, he was reasonably close to progressive in numerous ways.
I guess it depends on how important you view the economic sphere. To me, ending the post-New Deal era economic consensus and ushering in a new era where the power of organized labor was completely crushed with bipartisan support is the defining aspect of his presidency. He marks the beginning of the "culture war" era, when the people would no longer have any real say over how the economy was run so all that's left is fighting over social issues. It seems to me that it's more like he did a few good things here and there but for the most part he was awful, the death knell for any hope of progressive economic policy for generations.
The problem with this is that the rationale they give isn't "wrong". The US has received imports through the islands and the article gives details on why that happens.
While all of this is dumb, those points will make sense to conservative voters.
tl;dr: They're claiming that it was to "prevent countries with tariffs from shipping through there to avoid tariffs."
The United States alleged the islands exported more goods to the United States than they imported, an allegation that appeared to be calculated from incorrect trade data. An analysis of U.S. import data and shipping records by The Guardian indicated some shipments were incorrectly labeled as coming from the remote islands instead of their correct countries of origin. According to export data from the World Bank, the US imported US$1.4m (A$2.23m) of products from Heard Island and McDonald Islands in 2022, nearly all of which was "machinery and electrical" imports.[39]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heard_Island_and_McDonald_Islands
Great, now they simply have to claim their shipments came from Russia and they'll be exempt.
Hope you know Russian!
... Why were we allowing items into the country that were shipped through an uninhabited island to begin with? Like, that should be the red flag... They should treat it like losing your parking garage ticket, you pay the top rate.
**... some shipments were incorrectly labeled as coming from the remote islands instead of their correct countries of origin. **
I even put it in bold.
Yeah...I saw that. Hence my comment. Why would they allow that in? Even if it was labeled as that, they could do like I said in my comment and slap the highest tariff available on it - if that were the actual goal, and not an obvious lie to cover up their ineptitude.
I agree, it's insane that customs ever accepted a fictional port on uninhabited islands as a point of origin in the first place. That's the loophole they should close. It does appear that that's a thing that did actually happen though, so it's not a complete fabrication. I'd say customs should have been authorized to confiscate any such good until a non-fictional provinence was proven.
Wasn't Russia left off the list? hmmm
Those penguins know what they did
those damn penguins. Damn freeloaders.
Look, obviously Trump’s a moron. But don’t go pretending that corporate leeches wouldn’t route their funds through some penguins for tax avoidance. They would totally do that.
Do you believe all of those tech giants were actually based in Ireland?
Yeah, but it would probably make more sense to just have like a universal 10 percent default rate for "other" as a category.
I feel like this is really just a distraction. When you have a base of 10%, then it gets applied to dumb stuff like this. That should be a given. Let's focus on the other wild shit that is happening.
What's the tariff on something made in international waters?
this post was submitted on 07 Apr 2025
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