"Violence is never the answer" unless it is white people doing it : memes

[-] Shizu@lemmy.world 28 points 4 months ago

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[-] yistdaj@pawb.social 21 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

I feel like you've built two straw-men and conflated them together. I haven't seen anybody arguing either case on the left side of the meme in response to the images depicted (or similar) on the right side of the meme. People wanting to send weapons to Ukraine generally tend to also say it doesn't have a Nazi problem (and may compare Russia with Nazis), and people wanting pacifism in Palestine also don't like weapons and support sent to Israel.

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[-] dessalines@lemmy.ml 21 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Redditors please consult the chart:

[-] prototype_g2@lemmy.ml 10 points 4 months ago

hmm... And why would you say supporting Russia and Palestine count has "understanding geopolitics"? I say this as someone who does not know too much about it.

[-] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 8 points 4 months ago

Both work against US Imperial Hegemony. Palestinian liberation is fully supported as it's a national liberation movement for people subjected to settler-colonial genocide, critical support for Russia is due to it currently working against US dominance, which is the primary obstacle for Humanity to progress economically into a more equitable global system.

[-] dessalines@lemmy.ml 8 points 4 months ago

Posting to !asklemmygrad@lemmygrad.ml would likely get a lot of good answers.

[-] JohnDClay@sh.itjust.works 7 points 4 months ago

Or any other geopolitics ask community if you don't want extremely .grad replies.

[-] dessalines@lemmy.ml 5 points 4 months ago

[-] eldavi@lemmy.ml 21 points 4 months ago

the comments and the downvotes would be fascinating if it weren't so clear that they come from a place of deeply ingrained willful ignorance.

even the american liberal media is starting to admit that this is true, yet american liberals clutch onto it for whatever reason and i wish i could understand why.

[-] Thekingoflorda@lemmy.world 20 points 4 months ago

Love how in the first image you show the best part of the Palestinian people (which I do think is very much in the majority), but then in the second image you show the worst part of the Ukrainian people (which are very much in the minority).

[-] Samsuma@lemmy.ml 15 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

The ultimate lib move: exaggerating the villainy of their political opponents (or just straight up lying) and downplaying anything that's inconvenient to their "chivalrous" and "noble" narrative, namely their naked imperialism:

https://lemmy.ml/post/25116459/16264498

https://lemmy.ml/post/26387945/16928954

https://lemmy.ml/post/25619954/17323548

[-] Pherenike@lemmy.ml 14 points 4 months ago

Whoever doesn't obey USA's commands, USA calls a dictator, and then starts a vilifying campaign to justify intervening and getting rid of him/them. The EU always plays along and certainly Ukraine will not be an exception because it's all business to them (Putin included) and war is the most profitable of all businesses.

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[-] FelixCress@lemmy.world 18 points 4 months ago

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[-] Pherenike@lemmy.ml 24 points 4 months ago

Why do you always think it's Russian trolls? Is there really nothing criticizable anymore about this war romance y'all got going for Ukraine? Any critical minds just have to be 'Putin's puppies'? I'm so fucking tired of this simplistic ass Marvel heroes viewpoint.

[-] PotatoLibre@feddit.it 9 points 4 months ago

Hard to call "critical mind" anyone who compare those two conflicts in such a gross way.

[-] Pherenike@lemmy.ml 15 points 4 months ago

Yes, you're right. We should definitely send more military aid to Palestine.

[-] PotatoLibre@feddit.it 4 points 4 months ago

Don't you feel a bit ashame with that childish argument?

Ever heard about nuances? World isn't just white and black. Grow up.

[-] Samsuma@lemmy.ml 12 points 4 months ago

Enlighten us with these "nuances" you speak of. Clearly you know better than everyone else in this thread, so why not share your wisdom to the class?

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[-] Pherenike@lemmy.ml 9 points 4 months ago

It's precisely what I'm trying to get you to understand my dear, the world isn't black and white. But as soon as I criticize anything about Ukraine and the EU, I get called a Russian troll.

So what am I missing about Palestine? Why shouldn't we send them some weapons and tanks?

[-] PotatoLibre@feddit.it 5 points 4 months ago

Dude, you talked about weapons, not me. I just pointed out those conflicts are quite different and that comparison is biased and wrong.

It's a very poor argument.

[-] Pherenike@lemmy.ml 8 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Dude

I am a woman

you talked about weapons, not me

It's what the meme above is about

I just pointed out those conflicts are quite different and that comparison is biased and wrong.

You didn't say why, what is your reasoning behind that (because there is none) so you might as well have said pink microwave

It's a very poor argument

You, on the other hand, have no argument and no knowledge to defend it. Or you don't understand what I wrote and have simply lapped up EU propaganda, so you don't know how to debate.

Don't you feel a bit ashame

Don't attack if you plan on running afterwards

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[-] FelixCress@lemmy.world 6 points 4 months ago

Why do you always think it's Russian trolls

Can also be Putin's useful idiots. Take your pick.

[-] Pherenike@lemmy.ml 9 points 4 months ago

No really, tell me why. Let me pick your brain.

Or are you simply repeating the same shit others say?

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[-] silverlose@lemm.ee 5 points 4 months ago

War romance??? You think people want war? Wtf is wrong with you

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[-] BrainInABox@lemmy.ml 21 points 4 months ago

Well you see, as you increasingly slip into McCarthyist paranoia, your definition of "Russian troll" is going to grow ever more expansive as it approaches "everyone who disagrees with me". As a result, it's going to seem like there's more of them to you

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[-] Darkcoffee@sh.itjust.works 16 points 4 months ago

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[-] fyzzlefry@retrolemmy.com 7 points 4 months ago

I'm just blocking them and moving on. Think reporting will do any good?

[-] BrainInABox@lemmy.ml 17 points 4 months ago

Reporting them for what?

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[-] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 6 points 4 months ago

Reporting for what, exactly? Which part is misinformation, that Palestinians are fighting a national liberation movement against genocide, or that Ukraine has a non-trivial amount of Nazi brigades like Azov?

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[-] Auk@lemmy.world 14 points 4 months ago

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[-] teagrrl@lemmy.ml 12 points 4 months ago

the lemmyworlds and their orbiters are gonna be upset about this one

[+] softcat@lemmy.ca 8 points 4 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

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