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[-] yistdaj@pawb.social 21 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

I feel like you've built two straw-men and conflated them together. I haven't seen anybody arguing either case on the left side of the meme in response to the images depicted (or similar) on the right side of the meme. People wanting to send weapons to Ukraine generally tend to also say it doesn't have a Nazi problem (and may compare Russia with Nazis), and people wanting pacifism in Palestine also don't like weapons and support sent to Israel.

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[-] eldavi@lemmy.ml 21 points 2 weeks ago

the comments and the downvotes would be fascinating if it weren't so clear that they come from a place of deeply ingrained willful ignorance.

even the american liberal media is starting to admit that this is true, yet american liberals clutch onto it for whatever reason and i wish i could understand why.

[-] dessalines@lemmy.ml 20 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Redditors please consult the chart:

[-] prototype_g2@lemmy.ml 9 points 2 weeks ago

hmm... And why would you say supporting Russia and Palestine count has "understanding geopolitics"? I say this as someone who does not know too much about it.

[-] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 8 points 2 weeks ago

Both work against US Imperial Hegemony. Palestinian liberation is fully supported as it's a national liberation movement for people subjected to settler-colonial genocide, critical support for Russia is due to it currently working against US dominance, which is the primary obstacle for Humanity to progress economically into a more equitable global system.

[-] dessalines@lemmy.ml 8 points 2 weeks ago

Posting to !asklemmygrad@lemmygrad.ml would likely get a lot of good answers.

[-] JohnDClay@sh.itjust.works 6 points 2 weeks ago

Or any other geopolitics ask community if you don't want extremely .grad replies.

[-] Thekingoflorda@lemmy.world 20 points 2 weeks ago

Love how in the first image you show the best part of the Palestinian people (which I do think is very much in the majority), but then in the second image you show the worst part of the Ukrainian people (which are very much in the minority).

[-] Samsuma@lemmy.ml 15 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

The ultimate lib move: exaggerating the villainy of their political opponents (or just straight up lying) and downplaying anything that's inconvenient to their "chivalrous" and "noble" narrative, namely their naked imperialism:

https://lemmy.ml/post/25116459/16264498

https://lemmy.ml/post/26387945/16928954

https://lemmy.ml/post/25619954/17323548

[-] Pherenike@lemmy.ml 14 points 2 weeks ago

Whoever doesn't obey USA's commands, USA calls a dictator, and then starts a vilifying campaign to justify intervening and getting rid of him/them. The EU always plays along and certainly Ukraine will not be an exception because it's all business to them (Putin included) and war is the most profitable of all businesses.

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[-] teagrrl@lemmy.ml 12 points 2 weeks ago

the lemmyworlds and their orbiters are gonna be upset about this one

[-] softcat@lemmy.ca 8 points 2 weeks ago

I'm interested to hear from someone that will disprove this, surely there are good examples given the voting on this.

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[-] tory@lemmy.world 4 points 2 weeks ago

Israel has controlled the USG for decades now. We support Israel because they have been intricately and impressively spying on us since at least the 1980s and bought and paid for most of our politicians. It's just that simple, they own our politicians, and therefore: when they do heinous evil, our politicians look away.

Ukraine was invaded by our largest rival on the world stage as a power grab, and NATO decided to help.

The two situations are not comparable in the slightest.

[-] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 9 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Other way around, the US supports Israel because it secures the US Empire's interests in the region. Israel does not have nearly the power necessary to control the US, this line of thinking fails to analyze the real standings of the two countries. Presumably unintentionally on your part, the "Israel controls the US" narrative is actually pushed heavily by anti-semites, it perpetuates the notion that Jewish people control the world in a manner that recognizes the genocide of Palestinians. This is why correct analysis is important, as false conclusions aid the fascists. Anti-Zionism is correct, as is Palestinian liberation, but the US is not a victim here but is intentionally perpetuating it.

As for NATO and Ukraine, NATO countries are "helping out" not out of any moral reason, but to make hefty profits off of IMF loans and resource/mineral contracts. Additionally, Russia is not the US Empire's largest rival on the world stage, China is. It's true that Russia goes against the US, but it hasn't been a world power since the dissolution of the USSR, when the reintroduction of Capitalism obliterated Russia's economy.

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